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Uncircumcised Manual Stretching

Thanks firegoat, I tried that out and it does seem to help. I’ll have to play with the grip to make sure I’m not grabbing too hard.

With regard to the VacExtender, I asked monkeybar about it and he replied:

Originally Posted by monkeybar
For uncircumcised guys, biggest problem is scarline (corona) sensitivity. And because there’s extra skins, pulling back is bit more difficult than cut guys.

For vacExtender, there’s couple of things that can minimize this sensitivity. One is to use a small cut sleeve and place it in corona area (I will have a very soft version for this purpose soon but for now, cut sleeve will do), then apply normally. The other thing is to practice pulling the skin back so there’s no creases or skin bunch under the sleeve. When I first started, I used to get skin pinch and it’s not pleasant. It doesn’t take long to master this technique but it’s extra step required for uncut folks.

Other than the unit, I would get 1 sleeve of soft Xleeve sleeve. You could cut this to use it as a scarline protector or Constriction/Antifluid cone to do the same. The vacextender will give you much more pulling power than what your hand can do - I would suggest getting a thick rope or something similar at local home depot - so that you could use more force (sort of like handle). Get a long enough rope so that if your arm/hand get tired, you could make the rope long enough to pull with your feet when lying down. It will give you a completely different sensation/angles. Hope that helps.

I’m pretty sold on the idea of the VacExtender, however I’m still going to hold off for now so that I can prove to myself that I will be consistent. My other concern is that I have yet to find anyone reporting gains which they attribute to the VacExtender, VacHanger, or AutoExtender. This probably would get more responses in a new thread, but if anyone has experienced gains with the Vac products, could you please let me know?


Current: 190x158 (mm) or 7.48" x 6.20"

Goal: Just growing.

Do not use the vac you hanger, that thing is so painful and brutal to take off. The easy part is getting it on. And plus it pulls the pee-hole inside-out by literally sucking it into a reverse. So you may just want to use your hands, warm up with a rice sock, and learn to use your hands.

With uncut, you have to use your hands,

Cut guys can use devices and hanging..

With uncut, you want to learn to become one with your hands.

Do you use a towel? Another suggestion could be using an inverted knuckle grip : form a ‘V’ with two fingers, than palm facing out grasp sides of your glans with your fingers, then close your hand.

Originally Posted by ESPNSports
Do not use the vac you hanger, that thing is so painful and brutal to take off. The easy part is getting it on. And plus it pulls the pee-hole inside-out by literally sucking it into a reverse. So you may just want to use your hands, warm up with a rice sock, and learn to use your hands.

With uncut, you have to use your hands,

Cut guys can use devices and hanging..

With uncut, you want to learn to become one with your hands.

I’m uncut and using a vac hanger. Sure, it is more difficult for us uncut guys, but with good technique it shouldn’t hurt.


Starting stats: 6.4" / 5.6" Current Stats: 7.4" / 5.8" Short term goal: 7" / 6" Long term goal: 8" / 6.5"

Originally Posted by marinera
Do you use a towel? Another suggestion could be using an inverted knuckle grip : form a ‘V’ with two fingers, than palm facing out grasp sides of your glans with your fingers, then close your hand.

I don’t use a towel currently. Do you wrap the penis completely in a towel? My glands are pretty sensitive, the roughness of the towel would probably be a limiting factor in my stretch. Also, you mention that you grasp the sides of the glands with your fingers. I have been avoiding pulling directly on the glands because of fear of numbness or other injury, is this not warranted?


Current: 190x158 (mm) or 7.48" x 6.20"

Goal: Just growing.

Originally Posted by alin
I’m uncut and using a vac hanger. Sure, it is more difficult for us uncut guys, but with good technique it shouldn’t hurt.

Do you have/recommend the constriction sleeve? What about taping?

I wasn’t actually planning on hanging with the Vac device, I was going to use it as a manual stretcher and then (maybe) use the ADS or extender functions on it. From what I’ve read, people have more problems with hanging than these other functions, especially when using heavier weights.


Current: 190x158 (mm) or 7.48" x 6.20"

Goal: Just growing.

Originally Posted by freeaccess
Do you have/recommend the constriction sleeve? What about taping?

I wasn’t actually planning on hanging with the Vac device, I was going to use it as a manual stretcher and then (maybe) use the ADS or extender functions on it. From what I’ve read, people have more problems with hanging than these other functions, especially when using heavier weights.

Yes, taping is a must and I also use some cotton gauze for a minor wrap(that’s my pers preference), but I don’t hang heavy weights now(just 6 lbs). I work up the time more than the weight.


Starting stats: 6.4" / 5.6" Current Stats: 7.4" / 5.8" Short term goal: 7" / 6" Long term goal: 8" / 6.5"

If you want to buy the monkey bar, buy it. But trust me, you will regret it. It’s going to collect dust on the shelf.

Originally Posted by freeaccess
I don’t use a towel currently. Do you wrap the penis completely in a towel? My glands are pretty sensitive, the roughness of the towel would probably be a limiting factor in my stretch. Also, you mention that you grasp the sides of the glands with your fingers. I have been avoiding pulling directly on the glands because of fear of numbness or other injury, is this not warranted?


Not your whole penis, just the glans; first times it can be uncomfortable, after a while you’ll become accustomed.

Squeezing hard the glans is not recommended, pulling from the glans can be done safely. Most dangerous spot is not right under the glans, but at about 0.5-1” under it.

Originally Posted by ESPNSports
If you want to buy the monkey bar, buy it. But trust me, you will regret it. It’s going to collect dust on the shelf.

Any tips for how I should use my hands then? People’s responses thus far have been very helpful, and I do feel I’m getting a better stretch, but from what I see in the intro video, as well as in some other people’s comments, I really need to stretch it hard, as in pull it as hard as I can, and currently I cannot do this because of my foreskin. In the video they even use a second hand to apply more force, which I can’t even imagine. Again, this isn’t because I still feel very tight or the ligs aren’t up to the full force yet, it’s because if I applied that much force my skin would slide right over the head and I wouldn’t be stretching the penis at all.

I haven’t tried marinera’s suggestion yet, but I’m on an off day tomorrow, so I won’t be able to report back until Tuesday. Thanks for the clarification, by the way.


Current: 190x158 (mm) or 7.48" x 6.20"

Goal: Just growing.

I’m in the same boat as you freeaccess, the only way I feel that I can get a decent stretch is with the knuckle-grip, bur for that to work I am pulling on my glans which meant a terrible drop in EQ which I’ve regained after stopping the manual stretching. I am really clueless as to how one is supposed to stretch while un-cut?

Are there any other length-exercises for un-cut guys?

Here’s something I was thinking about, and may explain what I meant when I said that I don’t understand how anyone can properly perform a manual stretch.

With the difficulties that I’ve had, I don’t see how circumcised guys really have it any easier. The problem is that the skin is not attached to the penis along the shaft, only at the corona glandis (scar line). In order to stretch the penis, one must either pull on the head, or put a lot of pressure on the shaft, gripping and compressing the corpus spongiosum, so that the skin doesn’t slide along it. Otherwise, even circumcised guys are just pulling their skin; it just seems like they’re pulling their whole penis because (with the skin being so taught already) even pulling on just the head results in skin stretch.

In essence, their skin needs to stretch in order to stretch the penis anyway, and (moreover) there is no visual or physical difference from pulling the head vs. Pulling the shaft for circumcised guys. As a consequence, I would imagine there are many circumcised guys who are also not stretching properly. The difference is that uncircumcised guys notice the skin stretch as a different result than what we get when just pulling on the head, or getting a proper grip on the shaft and pulling the actual penis. We don’t need to stretch the skin, and when stretching the head we get a different feeling, as well as a visually different stretch (we can see the skin get a little more taught vs stretching).

Thoughts?


Current: 190x158 (mm) or 7.48" x 6.20"

Goal: Just growing.

Originally Posted by John the Anon

I’m in the same boat as you freeaccess, the only way I feel that I can get a decent stretch is with the knuckle-grip, bur for that to work I am pulling on my glans which meant a terrible drop in EQ which I’ve regained after stopping the manual stretching….

That’s not because pulling on your glans, it is just a side-effect of any kind of intense stretching regimen - hanging and even extenders tend to cause a drop in EQ, that’s why I always suggest to do a minimum amount of jelqing.

Originally Posted by marinera
That’s not because pulling on your glans, it is just a side-effect of any kind of intense stretching regimen - hanging and even extenders tend to cause a drop in EQ, that’s why I always suggest to do a minimum amount of jelqing.

What’s interesting about the drop in EQ is that I still can get hard but I lose temporary EL/EG. Do you think that smooth muscle contraction is the guilty one here ,given the fact that I still get hard ?


Starting stats: 6.4" / 5.6" Current Stats: 7.4" / 5.8" Short term goal: 7" / 6" Long term goal: 8" / 6.5"

Interesting thread.

I was slightly worried after switching to a length-oriented routine about a month ago and since then having a drop in both EQ and EG. While I now have confidence that those will come back after dropping the stretches and going for the girth, I very eagerly wait for that day to come. When things start to shrink, I think it certainly affects your general morale and enthusiasm.

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