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Truth about PE.

Originally Posted by Rayne
Okay, so I’ve done extensive research about PE where lots of articles/people claim that the only reason it grows is because exercising causes scarring. I posted in a sex advice forum and here’s an excerpt from one of the moderators reply:

“I think the scar tissue may be from very small tears within the spongy mass of the penis. PC excersises sound like a good idea, but unless you’re smaller than like 4” I think the stretching may not be worth it.”<I/>

“If you lift weights and exercise do your arms and legs get longer? No of course not so by doing anything in the way of exercising the penis other then the conventional way of good old in and out repetitions such as the methods you’ve mentioned there “may” be an increase in girth but definitely not length.”

I would say that after having read many similar “tissue microtears” “plastic deformation” type threads that there are competing good theories. They all make some sense, but you know this stuff is probably not going to make it into a science journal soon. Need to do more science , some ultrasound imaging establishing baseline, during and post PE workout tissue characteristics - everything from O2 sat to capillary and venous return rates to establish increase in blood volume, and a gauge or submersed measurement to ascertain temporary volume gains for the whole organ.

Originally Posted by Rayne
Another reply:

“Being a woman, I have something to say about the whole size issue. The truth is that size DOES matter, but not in the way most guys believe it does. I can’t think of very many women who would be thrilled about doing a 1-2” penis (and trust me guys, those are out there) but I’ve NEVER heard a woman complain about a good 5-7”. And though there is the obvious too little problem, most women don’t want to have sex with guys with a larger than average penis either. I think the whole male image of bigger is better stems from guys own belief that girls WANT a bigger penis, which is hardly the case. Most women are happy with whatever size you provide, as long as you know how to work it So if I were you, I wouldn’t worry so much about size. Because it doesn’t matter as much to women as it does to guys.”

I think that sounds like a fairly rational women who appreciates what most women want. Although she apparently knows no size queens or perhaps her friends are being a bit more PC than they should be for honesty.

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Originally Posted by Rayne
I’m very curious to hear anyone’s thoughts/real truth on growth only the result of scarring from exercising and the age old debate of women saying size does or does not matter.

My answer is we don’t know, here. I’m sure we have enough science in this community to set up an experiment though. There’s not just scarring, there is also the building of new tissues in response to tear repair without scar tissue formation.and besides that model of tissue regeneration is most useful in large muscles not smoot tissues or connective tissues, which have limited plasticity that can only improve marginally with repeated stresses before they weaken and break.


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I’m very curious to hear anyone’s thoughts/real truth on growth only the result of scarring from exercising and the age old debate of women saying size does or does not matter.


Everyone’s opinion will be different.

The age old debate, for some women it does, for some it doesn’t but the penis is only a small part of the big package. It’s nice to feel confident about a big one, the same that it’s nice to feel confident about having a ripped body and big muscles. Doesn’t mean your wife won’t marry you if you don’t have big muscles though. It’s just a nice bonus.

For PE theory, for me, I think “who cares”. It’s not necessary to explain how gains are made in order to make them. So make the gains, enjoy your new longer and fatter cock and let the guys in glasses and labcoats enjoy finding the reasons it’s possible, while you go out and enjoy your new dick. I like to read the theories but also take them with a grain of salt one, because they sometimes conflict, and two.. knowing what makes you gain and what doesn’t is more important then trying to justify why it’s possible. In my opinion anyway.

The theory is simply.

Man has proved thousands of years ago that you can stretch skin, cartiliage, and various other tissues through “traction”.

With PE - we are attempting to coax growth in the penis through “traction” whether thru weights or stretchers - stretching the tunica lengthwise.

Or pumping and clamping creating internal pressures on the penis to create “traction” internally.

I believe that gains in length that PE users (from this forum), including myself, have gotten, proves that length CAN be increased.

I can’t say that I don’t care how it happens (because I myself am a curious guy by nature), but I can’t really say that it matters. The fact is that it IS possible to gain length in penis size.

Of course, you can always be skeptic and choose to ignore gains made by people on this forum, or dismiss them as being lies.

Perhaps one day, when PE stop’s being a taboo, proper research will be made and articles like the one quoted in the first post will be ridiculed and sealed in PE history.

Have you noticed how the majority of people who try to dissuade people from PE are so aggresive, adamant and almost ridiculing in the idea? Either it’s the good old fashioned human nature, if you don’t understand it, laugh at it and prevent it, or perhaps there are 7-8” peeps out there afraid that they won’t be so damned special in a few years time.

I don’t think its related to scarring and here’s why:

A scar on the outside of your body causes the skin to become “tight”, where as normal skin has some give and after penis exercises our penises are able to stretch more.

Scar tissue results in Peyronie’s disease and if both sides of the penis are scarred (which they would be because we are growing with our glans in the middle and not slanted of to one side) it can cause shrinkage, where as we are growing.

Everyone’s thoughts are really helping to clear things up I must say. I know what you mean when people who don’t believe PE exercises work are so aggressive and 100% positive that it doesn’t work that it makes you feel like you’ve just asked the dumbest question ever. I’ve realized now that, yes, there are size queens out there (and I dated one, but never made it far enough into the relationship to have sex) and for the majority of most women, they are completely satisfied with an averaged sized penis.. At least, according to what was quoted by the women in my first post.

As for gains and scarring, it appears that it does infact work judging by how many post their progress on these forums, despite the arrogance of those people who truly believe PE is a myth and try to persuade those of us who believe it works otherwise. While one side doesn’t care how the gains are made as long as they are made, my curious side is asking myself, is that just natural tearing and regenerating or is that just scar tissue forming resulting from the damage?

In the end, I do believe PE exercises do work, I’m just curious about what I mentioned above is all. The funny thing is, I have seen a lot of “convincing” articles on why it grows (the scarring issue always comes up) yet, I have seen no scientific or concrete proof to backup their claims.

Something to think about I suppose.

Cheers.

Just keep in mind that other people don’t have to believe PE works in order for it to work for you. Only you need to believe it. If you ever want to try it for yourself, once you start gaining you will get addicted. Count on it. But it’s not easy, you don’t just tug on your dick occasionally and it will grow into a magical huge size. You need to be committed and patient and REALLY want it. And there are some tricks of the trade that are learnt from reading the stockpile of information at this place. If you do then you shall be rewarded.

You’re right about that, but what about the issue? Besides the scarring, others have mentioned that PE exercises can cause the penis to become desensitized too. I don’t believe that myself, but is there any truth to that?

I read that you need to do PE exercises forever to keep gains. Is that also true?

I did PE exercises a few years back for about a month (5 days on, 2 off) and did infact notice gains (I measured before and after) and whenever I got erections, they were rock hard. I do believe it works, there’s just underlying issues that linger. I look at things from a scientific perspective, so I like to get down to the core of things =D.

Cheers.

Has anyone PE’d to fill out their foreskin?

Granted there are things you can do with a big cock u can’t do with average or smaller. Like some positions I’ve dreamed up in my head. but blah blah blah we can’t all have 10 inch cocks. Girls want to think their guy has a big one. Its like a competition between women, to see whos man is better. But does that really matter?? Does your penis size matter to women more than who you are?! of course not. I got a half asian friend, one day he confided in me that his lower half was the asian half. He seemed sad, he said that believe it or not size matter.s I looked at him and i said, ” When you meet the right person, none of that crap will matter man, trust me.” And i told him i had a pretty decent one. Then i told him ” don’t forget who you are, don’t forget your ancestry.” Yeah big dicks matter to girls when the guys that have them are void of any other talents/skills/brains. Sure at least he has a big one. But really all that means is better sex for SOME women, the ones with larger than average vaginas, and bragging rights that their man has the biggest. Me? I prefer to be myself, not be my “size.” Fuck that, you think I’m going to let society tell me “oh it matters!” when I’m getting laid and seeing multiple girls a week while maintaining an open relationship with my girlfriend so I can have my freedom to see who I want? I have a great girl-friend, she claims that no one has ever left her. I know from some of her past history, shes had some HUGE ones, one even 10+ inches. and I personally know shes had some other big ones, a kid i met once i could clearly see had a big one. But yeah what happened? She left those guys, and what else happened? I left her with my NBPEL6.9x5er, 7.2BPEL. yet who was she begging for? Me. And i took her back, because she proved to me there is more important shit to her than the size of my wang. *sigh*

Don’t worry guys that aren’t huge, they want you too.

Originally Posted by Rayne
HardbodyPEer: What is EtP theory? I mean, I’ve done PE a couple years back 5 days a week for a month and did see gains, harder erections, etc.. But who knows if that’s actual growth or scarring?

Elastic to Plastic theory. there is about 20 good pages on it, it essentially explains a lot about PE. Look for one of Wadzilla’s posts. He has at the bottom of his posts a link to EtP in Adobe Acrobat format, you can actually download it if you’d like.


My goal is to be the best me, mind, body and soul, PE is part of achieving the best me.

Granted there are things you can do with a big cock u can’t do with average or smaller. Like some positions I’ve dreamed up in my head. but blah blah blah we can’t all have 10 inch cocks. Girls want to think their guy has a big one. Its like a competition between women, to see who’s man is better. But does that really matter?? Does your penis size matter to women more than who you are?! of course not. a Big cock is a plus, but so is good looks, its like denying that girls like good looking guys. I’ll never forget when i was unconfident, and i first got to college, I was friends with this sophomore girl, she was into black guys at that time, and she used to date a 6”4 black guy on the basketball team. Did he have a big one, I assumed so, and she said he did. But at that time she was dating a different black guy named shawn, great guy. He was a nice kid, good lookin, pretty hung ( I saw him once in his drawers, blue bikini briefs lol, he was prolly around 8 inches hard, though i never saw him with a boner.) So i got the courage to ask her if size mattered to her, being a white girl that fucks black guys. She broke is down really nicely. She said, ” Its nothing to worry about, its just kinda like a bonus.” She went on to explain that there are other factors that are more important, like personality, and looks, and CONFIDENCE(There’s the C word folks, very important..). I asked her I said ” Well what about like 7 inches.” She said she had dated a guy with 7 inches and it was fine. I also remember her telling a story about dating teh pitches of the UVM baseball team. She said he was Ripped and super muscular and tall. But he had a tiny weiner! She said the sex was still good, but when she told her friends they all kinda made a joke about it, because he was such a muscle machine but he had a little weiner. She said that he was seeing multiple women, and that he tried to pull some shady stuff on her, so she stopped calling him. I asked her if the sex was good again, she said yeah it was good.

Another example from my life. I got a half asian friend, one day he confided in me that his lower half was the Asian half. He seemed sad, he said that believe it or not size matter.s I looked at him and i said, ” When you meet the right person, none of that crap will matter man, trust me.” And i told him i had a pretty decent one. Then i told him ” don’t forget who you are, don’t forget your ancestry.” What was the last thing i heard from him? “Yeah i fucked this southern hottie 9 times in a weekend.” NINE times boys and girls, jesus if you can have sex that much in a weekend why the fuck would you need a big one even?? Your women would be sore! The girls love this kid and his little wang, and the other kid with a little wang that i know, also gets laid a ton, honest. Just as much as my 9inch friend, actually more, but not by much. Yeah big dicks matter to girls when the guys that have them are void of any other talents/skills/brains. Sure at least he has a big one. Its really rare for a man to come with extensive talents, brains, height, good looks, and a huge penis. I mean the porn star prolly only have the good looks and the wang, and look at how rare they are??!?!

But really all that a big dick means is better sex for SOME women, the ones with larger than average vaginas maybe. These girls typically are the ones that brag about the size of their guy’s dick to other girls. So really its a matter of the individual. Its fucked up that we think there is a one size fits all. Thats bullshit, I know girls, and in my experience the idea of the perfect dick can change from woman to woman.

And don’t look to your hung friends to tell you if size matters or not, or slutty loose women. In fact don’t even listen to me, come up with your own idea of what size means. Guys, i used to think i was small back when i had 6.4 inches. That’s why i never got laid, because I thought it was small.

Me? I prefer to be myself, not be my “size.” Fuck that, you think I’m going to let society tell me “oh it matters!” when I’m getting laid and seeing multiple girls a week while maintaining an open relationship with my girlfriend so I can have my freedom to see who I want? I have a great girl-friend, she claims that no one has ever left her, she used to claim that until i left her one day. I know from some of her past history, shes had some HUGE ones, one even 10 inches. and I personally know shes had some other big ones, a kid I met once and I could clearly see had a big one. But yeah what happened? She left those guys, and what else happened? I left her with my NBPEL6.9x5er, 7.2BPEL. yet who was she begging for? Me. And i took her back, because she proved to me there is more important shit to her than the size of my wang. I know one more fact, not every girl wants a huge cock, there are girls with little vaginas’, just like guys with 3 inchers.

Don’t worry guys that aren’t huge, they want you too. Its as matter of finding someone that is a match for you. Either that or getting your game on

Does this girl look like shes gives a shit about the size of my tool, honestly?


Last edited by danman88 : 02-06-2009 at .

Danman, please read the Forum Guidelines. You cannot post a pic of your wife, girlfriend etc. If she wishes, she can become a member and post her pics herself. Them’s the rules. :shrug:

oh I’m an idiot for that I’m already regretting this. Sorry guys.

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