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To V or not to V?

Several places on TP I read that jelqing works because you deform or compress your CC chambers and that v-grips (or over-handed, open ok grips) may be preferable because they don’t work your CS directly - this was spoken like it was a good (desirable) thing with the added benefit that you stay away from messing with your dorsal nerve bundles). Obviously that’s opinion but..

1) IF you agree with the above assumption, is it because you think the CS isn’t similarly stimulated to grow by being deformed or compressed?
2) Assuming the CS isn’t affected by jelqing (at least to the degree CC tissue is), is it because it’s a different tissue type or enervated with blood in a different way than the CC chambers or something unknown?
3) If the CS isn’t affected by being deformed or compressed, what do you think causes the CS to grow with the rest of the penis if it’s not being directly worked?

The reason(s) we don’t advocate the okay grip anymore is/are:

It puts a dangerous amount of pressure on the cs and glans therefore creating a higher risk of traumatic injury.

It also can aggravate the nerve bundle you speak of.

I think the cs grows in the same manner as the cc. You can enlarge your cs if you are careful about it. I’ve found that no matter how I jelq, I still get some expansion in the cs. As a result, over the last few years my cs has doubled in size. It’s almost if not more than an inch wide at the base tapering to about a half inch below the glans. So to directly answer your question, the cs is in some way affected by jelqing.

Wait just a second here:

ok grip is not advocated anymore and V-grips are?
Is there a diagram for the v-grip?

The OK grip and the overhand OK grip have never been a fully circular grip, it’s a method of describing something that lacks in some respects but immediately gets the shape in people’s heads. Going back at least 15 years, the best descriptions of the OK grip have been to apply pressure to the sides more than the top and the bottom, for the reasons William describes.

It doesn’t matter if you go around with a full loop in your grip or not as long as the pressure is to the sides and the grip is at best full in the sense that it completes a circle but not full in the sense that it applies equally pressure. If your fingers touch at the bottom of an overhand OK or if they are held parallel won’t make much of a difference dependent on how the force is applied.

William,

It’s sensible to minimise force to the dorsal nerve which is located on the top of the shaft close to the surface and likewise the CS is not as tough as the CCs, contains the urethra and is separately supplied by blood so the more pressure you put on it the more force will be applied to the glans, even when the stroke is further down the shaft. You can test this by putting pressure on the bottom of the shaft and seeing exactly how moving blood up the CS impacts the glans. Clearly you can’t avoid these areas completely but you can be cognisant of the risks by knowing the anatomy and work to avoid injury. You may want to impact the glans, in which case, the top of the CCs which provide the harder layer within the glans and the CS might be sensible to target. The CS will grow and putting pressure on the bottom of the shaft may well cause it to grow faster than the CCs, producing a rounder shaft or a shaft with a noticeable bulge running along the length at the bottom.


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Thanks G263 & Memento - that helps and makes much more sense. As Ed726 asks, are there any videos (or stills) of v-grip jelqing out there? I accidentally happened onto a v-grip while I was jelqing that seemed really effective (perhaps too effective because I then lost all my gains - that or I did too much stretching too soon - either way I’ve put myself on a deconditiong break for a week or two and will be starting back very slowly). Just want to make sure one does it right although your explanation really helped.

The videos show a grip using an OK with pressure mostly on the sides. You can see that from the placement and response.


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So a few months into the process, I’ve become a hard core V-jelq practitioner and am able to exert so much pressure (w/o completing an O-grip which I initially thought would be a problem in regard to preasure on my CC’s) that I’m having trouble not inflicting red dots on my glans. I’ve heard many say to keep going thru this kind of issue and in fact the dots disappear by Monday (having fully taken off Sat & Sun) but are back by Monday evening. I’m just loathe to not do PE 5 days a week since my gains resumed when I switched to PE-ing 5 days a week. Trying to hit it just right where I spur growth but avoid damage.


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I use two grips, one being the “ok overhand grip” with the wrist rotated toward my cock where the OK sign sits flush with my fat pad; which does seem to push a lot more blood in the CS which I like because I want holistic growth, not only growth in the CC.

Remember most people that are going to look at your cock will be seeing the underside so having a big fat ass CS sounds like a huge plus to me; I feel clamping does a good job of enlarging the CS as well as the CC.

The second jelq grip i use is overhand and i grab my penis between index and thumb without rotating toward my body, also make an “ok” grip and stroke forward. I don’t feel much when in the CS this way but feel it in my CC.


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Appreciate the share Deepwrath31 and I was definitely more lacking in the CS department pre-PE. Funny because my EG hasn’t increased dramatically and I haven’t specifically targeted anything except my CC’s, but there’s just more definition of my CS when erect than previously which is very cool.

I think this adds to my unit’s volume as well (as in my dick’s more cylindrical over all than ellipsoidal now that my CS has filled in a bit) which has the wife making some interesting faces during sex - not pain, not wonder nor anything I can get her to put into words but her expression says something’s changed and she can’t put her finger on it.

And yeah, I sure wish she were looking at it more from being on her knees or locked into 69 with me but the cravings she used to have haven’t returned just yet - believing that will change as I trim the fat off my body and give her more cock to be infatuated with.

So what’s your take (or anyone else’s checking this out) on frequently inflicting busted capillaries (red dots) on oneself - is it overdoing it or okay? Recommendations?

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Originally Posted by memento

The OK grip and the overhand OK grip have never been a fully circular grip, it’s a method of describing something that lacks in some respects but immediately gets the shape in people’s heads. Going back at least 15 years, the best descriptions of the OK grip have been to apply pressure to the sides more than the top and the bottom, for the reasons William describes.

Unsure if it’s never been a fully circular grip. From the Penis Enlargment manual on the site:

“The exercise consists of applying an OK style thumb and forefinger grip encircling the base of the lubricated partially erect penis, restricting blood flow, and pulling this grip forward toward the glans.”

I just want to clarify, for beginners, if I am doing the overhand OK grip, I should be applying more pressure to the sides?

Yes - you want to exert more pressure on the side chambers (CC’s) and on the bottom chamber (CS) than to the very top of your unit (to avoid overly compressing your dick’s nerve bundle). That said, you don’t want to be paranoid cause a guy’s pecker can take a surprising amount of abuse but you want to be mindful of your anatomy thus, the prior reccomendations to keep your grip a bit “open” as it were at the top of your shaft.

The V-grip effectively misses the top of your shaft so the CS is not worked as much as it would be with an OK-grip for whatever benefit or detriment that may have for someone’s program.

Since jelqing is (for most of us) a length and girth exercise, the OK-grip is what I find myself defaulting to more & more with the goal of provoking the most possible growth around the entirety of my unit since the OK-grip compresses all three chambers at once. Best o’ luck.


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Last edited by Quantum Leap : 05-18-2017 at .

Thanks for the detailed explanation! I need to learn more about the anatomy of the penis, but I’ll be more mindful of when I am jelqing.

Originally Posted by Quantum Leap
The V-grip effectively misses the top of your shaft so the CS is not worked as much as it would be with an OK-grip for whatever benefit or detriment that may have for someone’s program.

Quite welcome but needed to edit myself due to being obtuse: The V-grip effectively misses (or perhaps better said applies minimal pressure to) the top of your shaft so the nerve bundle issue isn’t in play AND because this grip doesn’t encircle the CS, the CS is not worked as much…


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January 2017: 5.5" x 4.4" volume 8.4 ci -- October 2017: 6.7" x 4.6" volume 11.7 ci

hey Guys, could you explain better what the ok-grip & Vgrip ?


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