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Originally Posted by firegoat
Good summary. Thanks Homer. I will be interested to hear what your gauge reads.

I have already addressed that very recently. I do my first 100 reps with a bulb and estimate it by feelling and drawcto be 15-20hg. When I use the pump for the last 50 its 20-25hg.

Originally Posted by sparkyx
Raptor, are you dropping the vacuum to near zero as soon as you hit your high vacuum levels, or are you keeping it there for a while?

I was waiting 5 seconds. It was probably the main reason as my penis was expanding to the extreme limit (8.5”) each time during these few seconds. The blisters were generated at this moment.

Originally Posted by sparkyx
Yeah, blisters indicate you are way too high for you!

Its funny, occasionally we get guys here that can sustain crazy high vacuum levels and seem to get good results, but for most guys…like raptor, bad things start to happen even above 9 in hg. For me, as soon as I see red dots, I back down or at least don’t go higher until I don’t get them at that vacuum level any more.

Indeed, but only with this exercise. In static mode I can stay to 21 in.HG during 5 minutes without any problem.

It’s horrible to feel the blood leak when the blister is appearing. I have never got blisters before dynamic pumping.

The most frustrating is to not be able to have sex for one month…

Originally Posted by sparkyx
Its so weird how there can be such a difference in the ability to take stress productively! But it definitely seems to exist! This may be why for some “less is more”’ and others “more is more”. If I took my dick up to 25 in hg, it would explode in the tube!

Yes with this mode, my penis would certainly explode too.

Originally Posted by HomerJS
* Evacuate the air. As soon as you start to feel the stretching - that’s high enough - RELEASE THE VACUUM - IMMEDIATELY! Not 3-5 seconds later - IMMEDIATELY!

Thanks for the information. Ok, it was not clear for me.


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Originally Posted by HomerJS

I have already addressed that very recently. I do my first 100 reps with a bulb and estimate it by feelling and drawcto be 15-20hg. When I use the pump for the last 50 its 20-25hg.

Are you sure the gauge works right? I have an elecric vacuum pump that can reach 22hg to its max and it feels way to much when approaching that pressure - and you can bet I have a steel dick. I broke hose clamps doing clamps, hung 30kg with an AFB hanger and no wrapping, and so on.

I still think you’re playing with fire going to high vac levels even for a second, that’s all the time it takes to burst a major blood vessel.

Be careful !

Originally Posted by marinera
Are you sure the gauge works right? I have an elecric vacuum pump that can reach 22hg to its max and it feels way to much when approaching that pressure - and you can bet I have a steel dick. I broke hose clamps doing clamps, hung 30kg with an AFB hanger and no wrapping, and so on.

Well, good question. I bought it from Harbor Freight so even though I assume it’s correct, who knows. As I said I have been pumping for 35 years on and off and have learned through sometimes bad experiences what is what. I know too high when I feel it and up until recently never had a gauge. I have always gone by how it feels which if you aren’t stubborn and actually listen to what your body is telling you,works. I have been that hard headed guy.

This is why I have tried to stress that it should always feel good. Don’t think you can mentally overcome some hurdle of pain and you will come out the other side better for it. Ain’t gonna happen!

Originally Posted by marinera
Are you sure the gauge works right? I have an elecric vacuum pump that can reach 22hg to its max and it feels way to much when approaching that pressure - and you can bet I have a steel dick. I broke hose clamps doing clamps, hung 30kg with an AFB hanger and no wrapping, and so on.

Well, it seems that you are correct. As I stated before I never had a gauge so I really had no idea how much vac was what. But at your questioning and that of others I did do some investigating and yes the gauge was malfunctioning. As it was still under warranty I returned it and the new one now reads correct.

I definitely was not using as much vacuum as I had previously stated. On the low side - with the bulb - I am estimating it to be around 10hg and on the high side - with the actual pump - it is 15hg. Sound more realistic? Harbor Freight, cheap tools… Go figure.

I am sorry to have mislead anyone though in my defense I have repeated over and over it’s about how it feels.

All other information still stands and is correct.

That helps a lot, thanks HomerJS. I suspect many gauges don’t give a correct measurement out of a give range.

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Originally Posted by HomerJS
Well, it seems that you are correct. As I stated before I never had a gauge so I really had no idea how much vac was what. But at your questioning and that of others I did do some investigating and yes the gauge was malfunctioning. As it was still under warranty I returned it and the new one now reads correct.

I definitely was not using as much vacuum as I had previously stated. On the low side - with the bulb - I am estimating it to be around 10hg and on the high side - with the actual pump - it is 15hg. Sound more realistic? Harbor Freight, cheap tools… Go figure.

I am sorry to have mislead anyone though in my defense I have repeated over and over it’s about how it feels.

All other information still stands and is correct.


On the positive note, that range brings it down to a much more possible range for the guys here. Once again though, never just go by numbers (guys), but go by feel (avoid pain) and PIs and EQ.

IF you are getting red dots, thats your first warning that you are getting into dangerous territory. Red dots are the small capillaries bursting, keep increasing vacuum force and larger vessels will start to burst next.

Let me relate a bit of my experience here.

I pumped fairly regularly for a couple years, but unlike most guys, the more I pumped the more sensitive my blood vessels became. It got so bad that even 3 in hg was causing a LOT of red spots, and I had one dime size area that was so sensitive that it was becoming permanently darkened by the regular hemorrhages.

So, about a year ago (?) I quit pumping and started clamping. Clamping can also cause red dots, but I kept the pressure down and it was fine. I then started using a hair tie wrap (read the thread) as a condom, and it allowed me to use much higher pressure with minimal red dots.

This thread made me curious, so I broke out the pump and started to experiment. I used a max of 5 in hg for the first week, with slowly working up to 5 then immediately dropping to 0 or 1 or so. What I found was I was getting a couple red dots, but totally acceptable…and they were getting fewer with each session!

What this indicated to me was that the sustained vacuum was basically “inflating” my capillaries until they would start to burst, so by intermittent vacuum, it was allowing them to shrink back down before bursting…AND it was actually making them stronger to sustain greater vacuum!

I than began to experiment with longer holds at max, and found I was able to go longer and longer periods as long as I continued to drop vacuum to very low levels every minute or so, up to two minutes so far.

This is now the second time I went up to 6 in hg for two minutes at a time before backing off to about 1 in hg, and today I had almost ZERO red dots!

My point here is NOT that you should hold those very high levels for more than a second, rather that I have found that I am conditioning my blood vessels with intermittent vacuum (perhaps indirectly proving that it DOES toughen tissue). My reasons are that I want to slowly condition up to where I can begin to use this method safely, but if I ever get up above 8 in hg, I will certainly use the instant release recommendations.

OR
If I can condition my blood vessels, perhaps try to hit that 30-60 minutes at 5 in hg…which is a tried and proven approach by many vets (of course broken into small sets)
OR
Use this method of high intermittent vacuum once in a while, COMBINED with longer times at moderate vacuum more frequently that is well proven.

Anyway, just my thoughts.

I think i may have misspoke with the “3 to 5 secs”. What i should have said is “I count from 1 to 3 or 1 to 5” then release pressure.


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I think i may have misspoke with the “3 to 5 secs”. What i should have said is “I count from 1 to 3 or 1 to 5” then release pressure.


I have achieved my short term goals 7 x 6++ 17.78cm bpelx 15.2cm mseg 17.1cm beg...

long term goal 8 x current girth

Another update.

Today I took it all the way up to 10 in hg, which for me is very, very high.

I did all week last week ( 4 days) up to 6 in hg, worked my way up to first 7 in hg then 8, etc until I reached 10 in hg. I would stop and check periodically for red dots, got just a few so I continued.

Because that is so high for me, I was VERY CAREFUL to quickly get up to 10 then INSTANTLY release vacuum back down to about 2 in hg.

I did about a total of ten minutes and finished with very few red dots, which is remarkable for me. I guarantee that if I held it there for even a few seconds, my dick would look like it had the measles!

Anyway, I decided to just go mon-wed-fri with this method this week and see what happens to EQ and expansion. I will post results.

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