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Another thing to throw out is the “deoxygenation theory” for the reasons for girth growth. I confidently believe that girth growth is the result of habitual expansion of the tunica due to blood inflow to or past the normal EG.

Originally Posted by LongVehicle
Another thing to throw out is the “deoxygenation theory” for the reasons for girth growth. I confidently believe that girth growth is the result of habitual expansion of the tunica due to blood inflow to or past the normal EG.

So the “deoxygenation theory” doesn’t apply to the penis or the clamp or any other constriction device doesn’t apply enough force to constrict blood enough(which could have unfavorable effects ? )


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Originally Posted by alin
So the “deoxygenation theory” doesn’t apply to the penis or the clamp or any other constriction device doesn’t apply enough force to constrict blood enough(which could have unfavorable effects ? )

I’m sorry, I’m not sure what you mean (the sentence is hard for me to follow).

What I mean is that: there was a time when I thought that deoxygenation of the penis, which arises due to the constriction that is necessary to cause expansion, could be a partial stimulus for girth growth. I’ve since revised the view, I think it may only increase vascularity.

The take-away is not to target time under clamp (TUC) but rather “true expansion” - which is expansion caused by induced blood flow, not edema.

Thinking all day long about PE is not healthy.


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Sitting at a school car park waiting for your wife to finish work, and doing PE manual stretches or putting on an ADS and getting caught by someone looking through the window thinking your jerking off around children.

Trust me, it doesn’t work.


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Originally Posted by alin

So the “deoxygenation theory” doesn’t apply to the penis or the clamp or any other constriction device doesn’t apply enough force to constrict blood enough(which could have unfavorable effects ? )

Yes, this is what he’s saying.

Originally Posted by marinera
Yes, this is what he’s saying.

I’m not sure to which one of the options you are refering. I think that I’ve read in difference places that applying to other tissue(like muscles) , a constricting device which could reduce blood flow/oxygen leads to increased girth.


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I know Alin, I posted some of those studies. :)

Lack of oxygenation seems to cause hypertrophy in striatus and smooth muscle. Magalophallus as a consequence of priapism could also be due to a reduced oxygenation.

Originally Posted by humpty_dumpty
I thought it might be a good idea to discuss some things that people have learned don’t work for PE. There are a lot of threads about what you are supposed to do, but to highlight what people have learned doesn’t work might help people reach that point sooner, saving them time and disappointment.

I’ll start by mentioning a couple things i learned don’t work:

1. “Piss Pulls”

2. Skipping warm up.

Your intention with starting this thread is good for sure, but you have to know that the best you can expect is the personal opinion of the posters. Which is controversial in each case, of course. Let me start with your statements:
1.Piss Pulls may not work alone, but can be of some help as an addition to a regular workout. If you didn’t get any benefit from it, that doesn’t mean someone other can’t!
2. Skipping warm up. In the PE world, skipping warm up is equivalent to being atheist. I’m afraid of even mentioning this, because of the possible flame-war to follow. Even if us, PE-atheists, usually don’t involve in these “warm-up” threads, we exist and have our gains regardless. In a comparative study of two PE-er groups, one doing warm-up, the other not, the average gains were the same. I know for believers this kind of information enters one ear and leave the other without touching anything in between… :)

The least controversial is UFGator’s 4-point list, but I think most of us agree over it not from experience, but because it sounds right… like a dogma! :)


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Originally Posted by cervixhunter

Edited (for shortness)
2. Skipping warm up. In the PE world, skipping warm up is equivalent to being atheist. I’m afraid of even mentioning this, because of the possible flame-war to follow. Even if us, PE-atheists, usually don’t involve in these “warm-up” threads, we exist and have our gains regardless. In a comparative study of two PE-er groups, one doing warm-up, the other not, the average gains were the same. I know for believers this kind of information enters one ear and leave the other without touching anything in between… :)


I would think thaat the primary use of warm up is to diminish the chance of injury. If gains follow - fine.

Your ‘study’ would be pointless as several people may react differently to the original exercise - It would be very unlikely that several people doing the same exercise would all gain the same So there can be no comparison.

I’m with Thunder on this one -what study?


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It’s a group experiment from a different web-site, so I don’t insist on it. It’s the only one I know about, described in detail on that certain site. The conclusion was clear: no measurable effect on gains.

P.S. I stress on gains. Other effects could be beneficial.


Starting BPEL: 6.9" (Dec.1st, 2008)

Current BPEL: 8.11" NBPEL: 7.63" BPFSL: 9.09"

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Erect jelqing doesn’t really work.

It’ll get you severely injured but not much else.


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Originally Posted by ThunderSS

A link would be nice.

Here you are: http://www.pegym.com/articles/penis-survey-results

The one about gains related to warm-up is #13, which has a link to more details.


Starting BPEL: 6.9" (Dec.1st, 2008)

Current BPEL: 8.11" NBPEL: 7.63" BPFSL: 9.09"

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