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The truth about warm up: From preconception to facts

The truth about warm up: From preconception to facts

From time to time, a newbie starts a thread about the requirement of warming up for PE. The forum community replies presenting it as an almost compulsory element which assures safety to PE workouts and facilitates gains. Some veterans say it’s <THE> key for gains. Then nobody dares to argue and the thread is over.

I’m one of those who had relatively good early gains without performing warm up. It just happens that I have no real opportunity for doing it, as I have very little privacy and I’m trying to keep my PE practice secret. I’m aware of the virtual possibility that my gains could have been more impressive if I was using warm up. I may put more effort in finding a suitable way for it if I could get certain about its benefice beyond simple words.

To convince the newbies, medical articles are cited related to more efficient ligament stretches in a warmed up state. If I recall well, 1.5% more elongation at around 42 degrees Celsius. Others are presenting their stats showing how much they have gained with their routines including warm up.

That is all good, but we miss the direct evidences. None of the above mentioned “evidences” show how much is the contribution of warm up for PE, if any. We would need comparative studies involving large test groups PE-ing with and without warm up. As far as group tests, we know that previous experiments failed. Even if some people volunteer for such an experiment, there will be always a question mark about how representative such a group can be.

What I propose is an easy experiment which anybody can make on its own to prove the effectiveness of warm up.

Abstract:
Record your BPFSL without previous warm up. Warm up your unit and make a new measurement. If warming up is effective, you should notice it recording a larger BPFSL after warm up.

Details:
BPFSL should be measured in a completely flaccid state. One should stretch his unit against a bone pressed ruler and record the maximum extension (tip of the head). BPFSL is the maximum value that can be measured at any reasonably intense stretch. (There is a stretching intensity above which no more force applied yields a larger measured value, just more discomfort. That maximum value is the BPFSL.)
Now, in my experience it’s hard to have the very same measured BPFSL value at any time. It depends on many factors, including the precise angle of view and the positioning of the ruler. For this experiment it is not that important to have the exact BPFSL, but to be consistent with measuring in the same way pre- and post warm up. We are interested only in the difference.
The temperature used should be around 42 degrees Celsius (107.6 F), kept for at least 5 minutes. If the 1.5% value applies also to PE, we can expect an average of 1.5 mm (1/16”) increase, which is perfectly measurable.

Are you in? Any feed-back is valuable, but keep in mind that it should be done as a scientific experiment. That means to be completely honest (objective). If you get a value that does not match your presumption, you should accept it rather than repeating it until the “right” value appears… :)


Starting BPEL: 6.9" (Dec.1st, 2008)

Current BPEL: 8.11" NBPEL: 7.63" BPFSL: 9.09"

Current MEG : 5.6"


Last edited by cervixhunter : 05-25-2009 at .

Taken from cervixhunter’s post and part highlighted in red:

“From time to time, a newbie starts a thread about the requirement of warming up for PE. The forum community replies presenting it as an [almost compulsory element which assures safety to PE workouts and facilitates gains. Some veterans say it’s <THE> key for gains. Then nobody dares to argue and the thread is over.”

The main reason for warming up is to prevent, so far as is possible, injuries during the workout. And as such fulfills it’s purpose. A by-product of using warmth will lessen the opportunity for injuries thereby allowing for better gains Also warming up allows more blood to flow - It must happen as the warm blood flowing is the warmer-upper so to speak. Warming up then causes the flesh to relax. which allows it to move more; and so by exercise increase girth and length.

If warming did increase gains then we would only have to warm the bits up for them to increase in size. Obviously (I see it happen) A warm arm, leg, etc. will increase slightly when it is warmed; so it will give temporary ‘gains’ Hence the expression “pumped up”

So it would be difficult to convince me that gains come solely through warming. It simply gives assistamce for gains to happen.


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Mbuc did a related experiment and found heat improved the stress/strain curve. See Penile stress/strain relationship , particularly the graph in post #36.

I suspect the usefulness of heating depends on what PE techniques you’re using.

I did the experiment. 6.2” before warming up and 6.2” after 7 minutes with a rice sock. The only difference was that it was easier to stretch it out after it was warmed up. On a side note, and a little off topic, these measurements were .2” more than when I had previously measured on the 15th so I decided I might as well get a hard on and measure that as well, to see if there was any gains to be noted. My previous length had been 5.5” and now it was also hitting 6.2”. Some of these gains may come because a better EQ,which there definitely is, but never in my life have I surpassed the 6” mark!! It’s always been around 5.5”. Can you say motivation!

Good to hear, kooljake.

I have a split view when it comes to warm up and gains. I mean, for preventing damage, for sure warming up is important.

I kind of have little patience for warming up and hot wrap in 5 minutes bores me like hell. So very seldom have done this and still got gains so must admit I mostly skip the warming up process. But I also seem to have not issues in damage and pain so if you ask me, I would suggest warm up if you consider problems with pain.

How about warming down? It is suggested that one should also use hot wraps in 5 minutes when you are done. If you don’t, is it possible that you don’t assimilates the exercises?


Historical graph since start including all Measures and Goals -

Start 2008-09-01: 5,9" X 4,5", 2012-03-31: 7,3" X 5.4" - Goal 7,5" X 5,5"

Erata:

I cannot edit my post and I did a major error in my initial posting that I’m sure everybody noticed.

The correct statement is:

“If the 1.5% value applies also to PE, we can expect an average of 3 mm (1/8”) increase, which is perfectly measurable.”


Starting BPEL: 6.9" (Dec.1st, 2008)

Current BPEL: 8.11" NBPEL: 7.63" BPFSL: 9.09"

Current MEG : 5.6"

Thanks, hobby, mbuc’s thread about his experiment is very interesting. I think mbuc is no longer an active member of the forum - his last stats input is from 2007. Unfortunately, his stress/strain diagrams stop before reaching BPFSL (due to the limitations of the device used in his experiments). Also, using flacid length as reference length for strain is not the most inspired option.

What I have learned from his experiments is that the unit can be worked easier in a warmer state - as most people already said. The question of more gains with warm up still needs proofs (though it is very plausible). Mbuc said in the above mentioned thread, back in march 2005, that he is going to try making his further workout with heat. Looking at his stats from that date till the last input in 2007, he did not have substantial gains.


Starting BPEL: 6.9" (Dec.1st, 2008)

Current BPEL: 8.11" NBPEL: 7.63" BPFSL: 9.09"

Current MEG : 5.6"

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5/27/09 start>>> BP Length 5.5 NBP 5 Girth 5.5

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If warming up is effective, you should notice it recording a larger BPFSL after warm up.

I understand that you created this thread in an attempt to determine the effectiveness of warming up, but I don’t understand why it would be fair to measure “effectiveness” in terms of BPFSL. By “effective”, do you mean in terms of increasing BPFSL before exercise? Maybe warming up is “effective” for other reasons?

Perhaps by not warming up, one limits the range of exercises he can perform as well as the volume at which he can perform them.

I take it that you have been training since Dec. 2008. Could you outline the routine you followed during the time you did P.E. Without warming up? Did you experience any negative sides during that time that you think could be attributed to not warming up?

I’d like to see your routine.

Thanks, marinera. That means there are chances to find some answers directly from mbuc.

On a side note, once I tried a cream containing capsaicin in place of warm up. I knew it was used against muscular pains due to its irritant nature, accelerating blood flow and giving an intense heat feeling. I just experimented to find a quick method instead of hot wraps, discreet enough to keep PE secret. As I knew how irritant capsaicin was, I applied a tiny quantity of cream to my unit. Even that small quantity proved to be way too much and in a short while my unit felt like burning in flames. Running cold water over it was just a temporary solution to keep pain bearable. I tried to clean it up with a neutral cream (as it entered deep into the skin). Luckily I was home alone and nobody else had to be concerned why am I staying so long in the bathroom.
Evidently, there was no PE that day!

I’ve read on this forum about other people having the same kind of experience. I suggest everybody to keep out of such experiments!

holdthescroll -
If warming up increases BPFSL, then I am convinced it is effective for length gains. I have a strong conviction that BPFSL is an indicator of possible BPEL gains.
I did not have any negative effects so far by not using heat. I have to mention that I ALWAYS do preparatory exercises before doing “hard” PE training.
Sorry, no special routine for me - just the newbie one done in a shortened version. I’m compensating the short duration with no rest days (only in exceptional cases, like above).


Starting BPEL: 6.9" (Dec.1st, 2008)

Current BPEL: 8.11" NBPEL: 7.63" BPFSL: 9.09"

Current MEG : 5.6"


Last edited by cervixhunter : 05-28-2009 at .

I never bother with warming before a workout but I do sometimes apply heat during a manual stretching.;)

I’ve noticed it does help alot.:)

Lets me stretch it further before getting that tingling itching feeling that means your really stretching it hard.


Starting length-About 6.15 inches,Current length at least 7.5 inches NBEL

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Interesting thread.. I did this experiment before reading this thread and notice no difference in BPFSL.. Strange but true sometimes I can’t stretch it as much as I can without warm up (maybe ‘cause heat give our penis a bit of en erection due to the increased blood flow and it’s harder to stretch a semi hard penis.) This is also another reason I use to skip warm up.


Start (october 2010) : BPEL 18,5 cm ; EL 17,5 cm ; MSEG 13,75 cm ,BEG 14,25 cm ;FL 12 cm ; FG 10,75 cm ; BPFSL 18,5 cm

3 months later ( January 2011) : BPEL 19 cm ; EL 18 cm ; MSEG 14 cm ; BEG 14,5 cm FL (hard to say if it grows due to size shifting of the soft state.. The same as before or bigger!) ; FG 11 cm ; BPFSL 19 cm***all hard sizes taken @ my hardest and doing a kegel***Goal: cementing a round 18 x 14 hard coupled with a good EQ.

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