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Originally Posted by 707tractatus
The numbers mentioned are not set in stone—for people will lie. At least, I provided a study. You can look it up yourself and there are some studies that come up with the same number. Very few men sport bigger than 8L or 5.5G. Thus, it will be really hard for them to find those and be satisfied.

Ok, here is another study that tells you women’s preference: Women’s Preferences for Penis Size: A New Research Method Using Selection among 3D Models | PLOS ONE

They mentioned race, age and other traits.

Of course, they may be lying, too.


I don’t counter this study. It’s very detailed but lacks of many factors. It is concentrated only on some aspects. Yes, (birthing)woman’s can be satisfied with a 6” cock (for example after 3 months of obstination), but in 90% of cases in which they encounter another 7,5”-8” cock they will relish for; I say probably forever.

Originally Posted by leonardus
I can’t argue for all instances find in someone’s life. And after all, you read my statements very wrong: It’s better to have an 9” cock fit in a 7” depth vagina because always I can leave out 2”, than to have a 7” cock into a 9” vagina (for example) because you can’t get 2” of real cock from anywhere..
That’s the basic suggest of my statements. Please don’t be the ”Johny Contras”.

Cervix bashing or touching isn’t exactly fun for women either. Nor is being intimidated. You are doing a good job of being contrary by responding to each post and citing an invisible source.

I offered exactly what I’ve experienced and know to apply pretty well universally. That isn’t meant to be contrary. It simply is what it is. I regularly talk about the impractical side of a huge penis and claiming 9” is optimal is…ingenuous at best considering how impractical it actually is. As it applies math (unquantifiable at that) to unknown vaginas over practical value of a penis to a woman.


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Originally Posted by MisterW

Call me cynical but my Spidersense whispers ‘Troll’.

You can say anything. But I wanted to said something like this: ”with a 6”cock you’re gambling but with a 8” one you’re ”without fear”.

Originally Posted by leonardus
Don’t be so rude. Did world know the ball pen was invented by a romanian/moldavian ? Did world recognize the first jet engine was invented by romanian Henri Coanda ? Did world recognize the insulin was first ”invented” by a romanian Nicolae Paulescu ? So, please, be decent and logic. I was elsewhere when I said average penis size of 5,5” ?? My brother worked till retirements in a large hospital and there complete the research on real peoples (woman’s). And that question ends my mentioning about that. Please so the same, but consider to continue the debate. In fact and after all it’s a debate, isn’t so ?

I was not being rude. In fact, you are the one who used “bullshit”. I was in the academic and legal industries that when someone postulated a claim that was not heard of or not derived from some axioms, canonical works, people will always ask for some source, or, empirical observations. Suppose I say, Brutus did not kill Cesar. Or, that I say there, even infanticide should be legal. I, as the proponent of those propositions, have the burden of proof and pursuasion.

You can mention all those works that have been overlooked in the past. But now since you mentioned them, obviously, they have already been recognized.


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Last edited by 707tractatus : 11-03-2016 at .

Originally Posted by leonardus
I can’t argue for all instances find in someone’s life. And after all, you read my statements very wrong: It’s better to have an 9” cock fit in a 7” depth vagina because always I can leave out 2”, than to have a 7” cock into a 9” vagina (for example) because you can’t get 2” of real cock from anywhere..
That’s the basic suggest of my statements. Please don’t be the ”Johny Contras”.

Well this is completely wrong.

The best case scenario is to just brush against the CDS while simultaneously being able to stimulate the clitoris with your pelvic bone.

This isn’t even that rare of an occurrence as your information suggests.


4/16 BPEL 7.2 MSEG 6.0

1/17 BPEL 7.75 MSEG ~6.2 BEG 6.75

Size anxiety is the mere response to viewing other males as a threat and the corresponding jealousy it causes. Realize that your feelings are a response to a perceived threat and the anxiety will disappear. My log: Big Booty Extravaganza (and Log)

Originally Posted by leonardus
My scientific facts reside on my brother 15 year long study for his pH. D diplomas. I read it and now I’m sorry not to xerox it; anyway, it’s illegal to provide masters degree works without permission. Just my fifty cents.

This is an attempt to pull rank instead of siting sources or even using anecdotal evidence to support your claims.


4/16 BPEL 7.2 MSEG 6.0

1/17 BPEL 7.75 MSEG ~6.2 BEG 6.75

Size anxiety is the mere response to viewing other males as a threat and the corresponding jealousy it causes. Realize that your feelings are a response to a perceived threat and the anxiety will disappear. My log: Big Booty Extravaganza (and Log)

All I know is those guys are guaranteed 9bpel and possibly 9nbp. Start watching big dicks ebony porn it shouldn’t be hard to find.


7-20-16: BP: 7.63 NBP 6.75 x 5.75

3-22-17: BP: 8.44 NBP 7.56 x 5.75

Originally Posted by thoughtfulgold
Well…I’m going to pop a hole in this logic.

I fuck almost exclusively fat women. My last long term girl was in the 350+ lb range. And out of all of them, none can get me balls deep fully hard. Period. Additionally, the longterm girl I reference progressively fit less and less of me and tore like routinely around my girth. I could only get half in or the tip in at times.

I also keep toys on hand. A basic purple gel 6.5 or 7” which inserts around 5.5 to 6” literally bottoms out in most of them.

Yes, fat around the mound can prevent some positions and full penetration. But this is counterbalanced by literally a hundred pounds of belly fat pressing down on the vaginal canal. I’ve not been balls deep in anyone over 270lbs. And I’ve tried. And that mound is soft and gives way if you push against it (which is a neat feeling shaven )

Yes the ass and a fat girl being inflexible or hard to position is a problem and a longer penis opens up some positions but you simply cannot fit the penis you claim they need inside of a normal vaginal canal. This is whether a woman has given vaginal birth or not.

Nine inches is absolutely beyond what a vagina is designed to accept. This doesn’t mean it cannot be trained to accept it or that are no outlier females can take 9”+ but it does mean it’s pretty complicated to execute coitus and NOT OPTIMAL at that size.

However, this is my own account. I cannot speak for you but i can say your facts don’t reflect well across the board to a card carrying chubby chaser. I also am not discouraging the quest for 9”, as it’s one I’m all but a poster child for, but don’t reach out of a sense of inadequacy. Do it because you want a giant dick for yourself.

My stories match yours and you are considerably longer than I am.


4/16 BPEL 7.2 MSEG 6.0

1/17 BPEL 7.75 MSEG ~6.2 BEG 6.75

Size anxiety is the mere response to viewing other males as a threat and the corresponding jealousy it causes. Realize that your feelings are a response to a perceived threat and the anxiety will disappear. My log: Big Booty Extravaganza (and Log)

Originally Posted by Rahman810
All I know is those guys are guaranteed 9bpel and possibly 9nbp. Start watching big dicks ebony porn it shouldn’t be hard to find.

I’ve watched a bunch of ebony videos because I find black women attractive… but I digress.

I believe the 9” BPEL without challenging it because I have seen evidence. I don’t believe the 9” NBPEL except for a few exceptions. Only one comes to mind.


4/16 BPEL 7.2 MSEG 6.0

1/17 BPEL 7.75 MSEG ~6.2 BEG 6.75

Size anxiety is the mere response to viewing other males as a threat and the corresponding jealousy it causes. Realize that your feelings are a response to a perceived threat and the anxiety will disappear. My log: Big Booty Extravaganza (and Log)

Originally Posted by BigBootyFan
Ok. This makes no sense. If vulvae were boosted with more fat, wouldn’t the labia be bigger and therefore tighter? Also, the labia will not gain fat with the woman, just the fat pad.

If you were to say that an additional fat pad would require additional length for adequate penetration, I’d be inclined to agree.

Also, to base your numbers off “real hard scientific facts”, site your sources.

From what I’ve seen, it’s more about tone than height or weight. It’s their muscle tone down there that makes them tight or loose sort of like a 7x6 pecker with soft EQ feeling to the woman the same as 6x5 pecker with firm EQ. We talk a lot about size, but I don’t see a lot mentioned about the effects of EQ on what I would consider “effective size.”

In other words, consider the force applied to her pink parts by inserting big loofa v. an average-sized glass dildo. It’s a factor we happily ignore, and assume all erections are built the same. Not the case. Look at toys sometimes. Some are soft. Some are hard plastic. Typically the larger ones are soft, the smaller ones hard, and we assume nature does nothing of the sort.

- Saul

Originally Posted by 707tractatus
The numbers mentioned are not set in stone—for people will lie. At least, I provided a study. You can look it up yourself and there are some studies that come up with the same number. Very few men sport bigger than 8L or 5.5G. Thus, it will be really hard for them to find those and be satisfied.

Ok, here is another study that tells you women’s preference: Women’s Preferences for Penis Size: A New Research Method Using Selection among 3D Models | PLOS ONE

They mentioned race, age and other traits.

Of course, they may be lying, too.

Hell, here is the study from Thunders: Average Gains and Starting Measurements

Not much in the high end.

- Saul

7 goes into 9 a lot more than 9 into 7

Originally Posted by leonardus
I can’t argue for all instances find in someone’s life. And after all, you read my statements very wrong: It’s better to have an 9” cock fit in a 7” depth vagina because always I can leave out 2”, than to have a 7” cock into a 9” vagina (for example) because you can’t get 2” of real cock from anywhere..
That’s the basic suggest of my statements. Please don’t be the ”Johny Contras”.

So what you’re saying is women want their cervix pounded as hard as possible? Have you EVER had sex with a woman? I know there’s such thing as a cervical orgasm, but more women find it uncomfortable than satisfying. Not to mention the most stimulating nerve endings are at the opening of the vagina, not the back (ask your Phd. brother about that, if he’s really a gynecologist then he would know). And I really want to see what it’s like for a ob/gyn to examine a pregnant woman who has a 9” depth vagina. How would they even check to see if she’s dilated? You know they do that with their fingers right?

This entire post screams “I’m making up as much shit as I go”. Look up evolution and see how that plays a role in our body compositions. I’m only replying because this post has increased my blood pressure to the point it will only go down if I type it out.


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I don’t agreed with the op though. Very few women on the planet can take 9 inches without leaving some out. The vagina retracts very well. I’ve read where after sex with a big dicks the vagina goes back to its normal shape within about 6 to 8 hours or sooner. Women with a vagina that long are about as rare as 9 inch guys that were born that way. Girth is a different story though they can definitely take more of that after kids.


7-20-16: BP: 7.63 NBP 6.75 x 5.75

3-22-17: BP: 8.44 NBP 7.56 x 5.75

Originally Posted by leonardus
”And, btw, 85% of women are satisfied with their partner’s penis size”.
This is bullshit. Sorry for expression but things are much much more complex. First, because it’s a fact that women’s tend to hide what’s bothering them. Second, those studies where not very complex and touch only general targets (woman’s as a whole, and not for specific age, nativity, familial status, etc)..
Third, because it is this principle in use: ”it’s easier to search for tighter vaginas than to do successfully painful long-term PE’s”, or it’s counterpart: ”it’s easier to look for bigger penises than to give attention to Kegel exercises”. In this principles battle man principle always lost.

Those studies don’t ask if she’s satisfied with the guy, just his penis. Most women are like, Yeah, sure, whatever. I mean, it’s a dick.

Sort of like asking if we’re happy with her pussy. Yeah, sure, whatever. It’s a pussy.

So it’s not bullshit, it’s just a one-dimensional question. Ask them if they’re satisfied with their sex life, or their partner’s attentiveness, or their orgasms or other questions with broader depth, and you’ll hit that “hide what’s bother them” crowd. Those 15% of unsatisfied women are likely in the really big or really small crowd, and probably the really big crowd. Small guys can compensate with fingers and toys. A big guy is all or none, especially if it’s girth, and too much length hurts their cervix. That’s a really sharp pain for them.

- Saul

Originally Posted by leonardus

You can say anything. But I wanted to said something like this: ”with a 6”cock you’re gambling but with a 8” one you’re ”without fear”.

Suspicion confirmed. Have a good time on the rest of the forum, I’m outta this thread.

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