Take a Second and Enlighten Me

So I have decided to start a routine and to finally make sure I am consistent (I have done PE previously but only for short spurts of 2 weeks spaced out, nothing serious enough to gain). I am doing so because I NEED to, thus I will attempt to overcome my skepticism and well…paranoia regarding PE. I wish to end my days of lurking in the shadows for I feel if I continue to put this off instead of saying fuck it and just get started then I will never get around to it. So I suppose I will throw all my chips in and hope for the best.

My time reading this various posts has instilled a great hope within me that PE is possible and not overly hard to achieve, my only worry is what will happen since I have so much riding on this.

Below is the program I plan on following for at least 3 months- (probably 2 on 1 off)
5 minute warm-up (Infrared bulb)
BTC 5 minutes
3 minutes of stretching (six 30-second stretches/2 SU/SO/SD)
60 Jelqs
Kegels

Weekly increase-
One 30-second stretch
15 jelqs

For off days-
Light stretches
10 min or so of BTC

Some questions-

-Is IR sufficient for a warmup? I also use it continuously throughout the workout as well.

-I find it hard to be completely flaccid when stretching, is this ok? Same as most people? Hindering gains/unsafe? And has anyone had significant gains without being completely flaccid while stretching?

-Much of the time I just feel like I am doing the exercises incorrectly (stretching/jelqing) in some way (even though I have read the info/watched the videos), for instance, jelqing which seems so similar to regular masturbation. Has anyone felt this way as well yet still gained? I feel much of my worries come from not exhibiting many of the PI’s that others have mentioned (I.e., increased flaccid hang/soreness post workout) I know each of our bodies adapt differently so I will see if I still gain without these so I know what my own individual PIs are I suppose.

-I am interested in hearing your opinions on my routine, what can be added (too light?/exercises/time/equipment/techniques, etc)
Does anyone recommend using anything such as an ads/wrap/cock rings to supplement this?
Also, I have read the importance of “never letting it turtle” as set forth by Big Girtha I believe, for instance, during one’s sleep. What are effective/safe ways to do this?

Anything that I can add to increase the effectiveness is of interest.
Thanks in advance

Hi, Prime. In answer to your questions I would say

1) The IR should be fine as a warm up

2) Being a bit fluffed up is fine for stretching as long as you are not rigid.

3) I think you just have to keep at it. The jelqing should not be like masturbating with an erection, it should be semi-erect so you can force the blood around inside when you move your grip.

4) Your routine looks fine. Keep it simple to start with. Like you said yourself - just do it! You can add stuff in the future but don’t worry about that for several months.

5) Wrapping and ADS weights are fine for daytime but there isn’t any safe method for use at night. Don’t go to sleep with anything on your dick!

Don’t over think it at the beginning just get started! :)

Hi Prime! Let me put my two cents here:

- I don’t know about the IR lamp, never used one myself, I shower for a warmup

- when you start PE, it is hard to be flaccid while streching, but you can solve that by tiring your PC muscle before streching by doing a set of kegels

- you don’t have to feel sore after a workout; I rarely feel sore after and still I gained some; also concerning the way you do the exercises - you have to go by feeling - when you jelq you should be hard but pliable, and should feel the penis expanding

- I think your routine is OK for start, although you should try not to count jelq strokes but time it - say 10 minutes is OK for starters

- the best way I did to increase my flaccid is fowfering when I go to sleep - it’s when you put your dick and balls between your legs as if you were kidding to be a girl :) - it is not uncomfortable and worked wonders for my flaccid

I hope I helped you a bit, Prime, and good luck on your gains.

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Here, here mbuc.

Just a tip. Thank your skepticism for sharing and ask it to wait in the next room.

And remember; it is a marathon, not a sprint. Be firm with your dick but gentle with yourself.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again; Patience perseverance, consistency and a positive attitude are the cornerstones of effective PE outcomes.

LWH

“Louie, I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship”
- Humphrey Bogart to Claude Raines, Casablanca

Be sure to cover your balls when you use IR, it penetrates deeply (some people wear boxers and poke out of them, others wrap with a sock etc - IR doesn’t go trough regular cotton very well). If you fry them once you might (just) loose the sperm production for the next 30 (or was it 90?) days, but who knows what repeated frying can do?

You should overcome your skepticism right now. It works. Just think this and nothing else. You’ll gain.
This is not gambling, it’s a technique that gives results. As long as you believe and do persistently.

-Jelqing is different than masturbation. Your aim is to enlarge the dick, not to jerk off.
- I think 60 jelqs is too low to begin with. You should begin with at least 200 jelqs, and do 15 minutes stretching.

Good luck.

I disagree and suggest going for the 60. See how it works for you; especially if you are new.

mbuc,

So an ADS isn’t necessarily a bad thing for a Newbie?

Also, about what weight and time constitutes ADS? I know that too high of a weight (isn’t ~ 5lbs the recommended starting weight for guys new to hanging) would simply be hanging, so what would be ADS, a pound or two?

And even at a 1-2lbs, wouldn’t the time have to be somewhat guarded to avoid over-doing it when fairly new to PE?

And what about schedule? 2 on, 1 off? 1 on, 1 off? Or the seemingly revolutionary 1 on, 2 off?

Hey Prime,

The newbie routine of T’splace is a good routine. Personally, I started off with a different routine and got quick newbie gains of 3 cm EL and a little bit of girth in about 5-6 weeks. I’ve never read of someone getting results this quick with any other routine.

Morning:
-150 kegels: slow contractions. I try to do them as hard as I can (takes me about 12-15min)

Night:
-75 stretch-kegels: Pull a regular manual stretch at about 10 o’clock. Then I slowly contract my BC as hard as I can and try to pull my dick back. This is like resistance training for your BC. This takes me between 10 and 15 min, depending on how much dedication and effort I put into it.
-3 x 5min stretches: first stretch is just below parallel to the floor to target the ligs. Second stretch is just over parallel to the floor (my normal erection angle) and the third stretch is at even higher angle. I hold each stretch for 5 min and pull as hard as I can. If my grip slips, I just take a new grip.

I worked great for me, maybe it could work for you.

I just wanted to thank everyone who took the time to post a reply and I will definitely take heed of the advice and apply it tonight when I begin my routine.