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Stagnation in gains for 6 months - need advice

Stagnation in gains for 6 months - need advice

I’ve been doing PE for a year and a half now. I’m a slow gainer: my starting length was 5.8” and my current length is at 6.5” - 6.6”. My routine has been pretty monotonous: I’ve worn an ADS every day for 8 to 12 hours. I’ve done some clamping here and there, but I never seem to be able to stick with a solid clamping routine. Plus, my EQ varies from being very weak (not able to get an erection at all) to somewhat weak (where I can maintain a poor erection) to a little below average (where I can maintain a sufficient erection long enough for intercourse with my girlfriend). And because I have erection problems sometimes, it means that it’s pysiologically impossible to have a consistent clamping (or jelqing) routine. So, my only option has been to stick with a solid, consistent ADS routine, which doesn’t require an erection.

My problem is that for the last 6 months my gains have utterly stagnated. I haven’t gained even 1/8th of a centimeter.

I’m trying to figure out the cause of my stagnating gains. I read in another thread something that might be relevant. Possibly, wearing the ADS has only worked on stretching my ligaments, but not my tunica. It could be that I’ve maxed out my ligament gains, but my ADS is not strong enough for making tunica gains.

Do you think that the above theory is accurate? If not, what is the cause of my not being able to gain anymore?

Next, what to do from here so that I can make gains.

My idea to gaining is to clamp and/or jelq for 15 minutes (to start with, at least) for 4 days out of the week, which shouldn’t be impossible if I have a consistent kegel routine and regularly take supplements, like ginkgo biloba, for erection improvement. Further, I will stop wearing the ADS because it doesn’t seem to be working anymore.

Do you guys have any other ideas for me to start getting gains again?

If you have erection problems, try watching porn while you jelq/clamp. I would also suggest that you include manual stretching into your routine. You might try V and A stretches which are supposed to target the tunica more.

Weak erection problems sound like negative P.I.’s from overworking your unit, which can lead to absolutely no gains. Check out this thread on P.I.’s.

Physiologic Indicators (PIs) to help growth!

You might want to take a few weeks or a month off of PE completely and the start it up again.

While, generally speaking, the fellows are right, your case has some specificities.

a) ADS and extenders works on the elastic range of collagenous tissue. This means that, once you have achieved the gains that could come from being able to stretch more your tunica, there are low chances to gain more, because the force isn’t enough to start real growth.

B) Length work tends to lower EQ; if you have erections issues than an ADS is the last thing you should use, IMHO. Instead, you should do jelqs. If you can’t have enough hardness, do dry flaccid jelqs - they tend to improve EQ as well.

So said, you should speak to a doc to know what the cause of your chronic low EQ is, it seems you have a mild ED.

Marinera is very right. Length work definitely does take a toll on EQ. The only thing that actually keeps mine good is the vac-hanger.

Checkout the TCG theory. I’m believing in it.

Originally Posted by marinera
a) ADS and extenders works on the elastic range of collagenous tissue. This means that, once you have achieved the gains that could come from being able to stretch more your tunica, there are low chances to gain more, because the force isn’t enough to start real growth.

Ignoring EQ issues for the sake of argument, I assume that manual stretching or hanging might be able to exert sufficient force to induce continued growth through tunica stretching?

Where did you get your erection problems, if you don’t mind my asking? Was it from PE? When it comes to “stagnant” gains, have you ever done any decon break? Because most of the times, it’s all you need to gain again.

Originally Posted by gjurob

Ignoring EQ issues for the sake of argument, I assume that manual stretching or hanging might be able to exert sufficient force to induce continued growth through tunica stretching?

That’s what we hope. Very low, prolonged tension should be able to uncrimp fibers and creep tissue, getting elongation exploiting visco-elastic properties of collagenous tissue; high intensity loads should cause some appreciable damage, to start rebuilding of tissue.

The OP has only used low loads for a very long period, so the stagnation.

EQ issues, ain’t no joke. I suggest incorporate heat into your routine, mostly during the hanging or clamping or whatever is your preferred method. You can try soaking a wash cloth into hot water, let it cool down a little bit, and apply it on your dick.

Hello everyone. Thank you for all your replies.

It’s been a few days since I’ve worn the ADS, and already I’m noticing an improvement in my erection quality.

I think there are two causes of my mild erectile dysfunction. The first was the ADS. The second is sexual exhaustion. I have intercourse once every three to four days, and on the days I don’t have sex, I masturbate 1 or 2 times. This has had a negative effect on my EQ as well as my libido. It’s difficult for me to stop masturbating because I use it as a way to relieve depressed or stressed feelings.

I’ve begun a clamping routine. I clamp for 15 minutes per day while watching porn, which isn’t difficult or time-consuming. I have a narrow penis - just 4.7” to 4.8” around, so working girth will be good for me. I am confident that I will make gains again.

Originally Posted by AM1221
I’ve begun a clamping routine. I clamp for 15 minutes per day while watching porn, which isn’t difficult or time-consuming. I have a narrow penis - just 4.7” to 4.8” around, so working girth will be good for me. I am confident that I will make gains again.

I have no doubt that you will make gains again. I would, however, recommend that you substitute jelqing for clamping at least for now.

Clamping is a very intense exercise and is likely to cause conditioning and toughening of your unit fairly quickly, thus reducing chances of further gains. After that you would have to take a prolonged deconditioning break in order to achieve any additional gains.

In my view, it would be better for you to save clamping for a later time in your PE career.

Jelqing at high erection levels is supposed to target girth more than length, so you can expect to achieve some girth gains using this exercise.

Definitely pick up a solid jelqing routine. Jelqing is IMHO the best thing around.

Do like the others said and just concentrate on jelqing.

Jelqing should always help the EQ, if it doesn’t you’re overworking or not doing it right.

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