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Iamhere>> Not doubting whether he is god bad or ugly, If he wants to help, why doesn’t he just put up the instructions for those who want to build there own ? <Getting side tracked here> I don’t care about his products or how much money he makes or if his products work.

What I am saying is, that he claims to have gained 4.5” on his penis, which in a penis forum/community/environment is astronomical. To me, it would just seem obvious that if that was the case then for the good of the community he would want to share that with others.

Northmiamitop> The thing is he is open about it , even to his children, normally, these are the people we want to hide things from, family friends etc, not random strangers who we are never going to have any encounters in the real world with.

jm, this discussion wouldn’t make you or anyone else any benefit. Of course you can discuss whatever you like but, really what matters if Bib says the truth or not? I know PE works and I can make my cock bigger and that’s enaugh for me.

Start: 6.9 BPEL x 4.9 (17,5 x 12,5 cm)

Now: 7.7 BPEL x 5.7 (19,5 x 14,5 cm)

Originally Posted by ModestoMan
Hanging didn’t work for me, Griff. And, like Bib, I gave it a good long time and up to several hours a day. Oh, and I used a Bib Hanger.

I gained literally zero. Then I went back to good old jelqing and stretching and gained 1/2”. Adding that to my 1/2” gains using the newbie routine makes a total of 1” in length gains, which is all I’ve been able to manage.

In how long?

Dec '09 : NBPEL: 6'' x EG: 5.1'' x FL: 2" -----> Aug '10 : NBPEL: 6.3'' x EG: 5.6'' x FL: 2"

Yeah, don't worry. It did not take me 8 months to get these gains. I was more off than on when it came to PE :O

Goal: EL: 7.25" x EG: 6.2" x FL: 4"

My serious hanging period lasted 6 months. After that, I hung a little here and there, then completely stopped.

Enter your measurements in the PE Database.

Let me draw an analogy. Let’s say that an average healthy slim middle-aged man runs a distance of 100 meters in 12-13 seconds. Sportsmen do it in 9 secs. If anyone claims that he does it in 3 seconds, that is very implausible in my perception.

The same goes with PE. I believe that a very lucky guy can gain 2” in the first 18 months. I can imagine that an exceptional man can get 2,5” in the initial 18 months. Maybe, 1 in 10.000 or even 50.000. But if someone claims he got 4, 5 or 6 inches in 18 months - I’m sure he says so either for commercial reasons or for vanity.

I don’t exclude that Bib is actually in double digits. But in this case I’m 100% sure he never ever was 5” in the first place.

These threads regarding Bibs gains seem to pop up quite frequently. To be honest i don’t really think there are many, if any, people that really believe Bib. I have a hard time accepting those that say they do really do, as generally they are old time PE’rs who have had a decent amount of contact with Bib, in one way or another and therefore want to believe him, as he seems like a good guy. I think that is the difference between Bib and DLD. Bib has contributed so much to the world of PE and tried to help so many, that people inherently want to believe him. Whilst DLD is a blatant fraud and out for himself. Bib obviously makes money from his hangers, but he’s contributed far more than just being a seller of hangers. But ultimately, I seriously doubt there are many people that genuinely believe his gains. It’s a bit like the Bible. As times goes by and we learn more, it becomes more and more unbelievable. Soon, some will statr saying Bibs story was never meant to be taken literally, but as a metaphor for what can be achieved by sticking to a good PE routine.

Originally Posted by ModestoMan
Hanging didn’t work for me, Griff. And, like Bib, I gave it a good long time and up to several hours a day. Oh, and I used a Bib Hanger

It is sad to hear that someone did not gain at all while putting in so many hours.

One reason could be that hanging simply doesnt work for you or another reason could be you were doing it wrong. If I remember correctly you stated that it is a misconception that the bib is a “compression” hanger which bib says it is, but at the same time you also got some nasty discoloration from incorrect hanging (Blood infront of the hanger). It may be obvious that bibs way of applying his hanger is differently than yours and I somehow have a feeling that this might be a reason why you didnt gain at all.

What was your max weight before stopping?


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