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Size doesn't matter

Everybody can self-convince of anything.

Originally Posted by northmiamitop
You’re on this forum so obviously interested in doing something about your size.

And there it is. If a guy says it doesn’t matter, WHY are they here on the forum in the first place?? Contradictions …


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Originally Posted by Naked Tomato
First of all, I’m not living in denial. I don’t have a small penis and I’ll say it again, no I don’t have a small penis. Although if you looked at my PE Log, you would then say otherwise. Why? Well you would say that because it’s a number. If I was given a choice to have a bigger penis, my answer would be no. It’s the truth, since I don’t believe pleasure can be measured on a mans penis. Oh what’s that? Blasphemy, of course NT wants a bigger penis. He’s lying, well you don’t have to believe me. I don’t get pleasure out of how big a man is. If he can’t find my prostate, or suck my cock decently. Then no, there won’t be anything fun to be had in the bedroom. If you stop seeing your penis as a number and realize it’s there for fun and pleasure. Then maybe you can live your life without worries on whether someone will approve of it. Who gives a fuck?

And no, not everything is equal. If that were the case everyone would have the same size, or around the same. Yeah, you can use PE to make your penis bigger. But when will the number you guys put on yourselves be enough? I’ll guess, it will never be a big enough number. I’ll also guess it will always be something you hate. Why? Because you’re being fed daily by ignorant TV ads etc that, yes it matters. But in reality the only thing that matters is how you see yourself. As for me, no I’m not living in denial, and no I don’t have a small penis, I don’t because I don’t see myself as another person. I see myself as me, and I am the best I have. :)

Unless you can learn to accept yourself you’ll never be happy. I had to learn that the hard way.

If you don’t want a bigger penis, then why do you have goals in your signature, much less an account on this forum?
Why would anyone put in the time and effort to make a change to their body that didn’t matter whatsoever?
Because size matters.
You aren’t understanding what I’m saying. Size makes a difference, but that doesn’t mean it’s the only component to good sex. But it is there, and size is proportional to pleasure.

I’m very good at oral sex and fingering, but I want to be a complete man, so I’m here to improve my tool too


26-Nov-2014 (sin la consistencia que quiero)= Flac: 10 cm. Erection (BP): 14 cm. / NBP 12.9 cm. / Girth (Grosor): 12 cm.

Short term goal (Meta a corto plazo): 15 cm x 13 cm. Final Goal (Meta Final): 20 cm. x 16 cm.

Originally Posted by iLogPE
And there it is. If a guy says it doesn’t matter, WHY are they here on the forum in the first place?? Contradictions …


Don’t see a contradiction, but see that you have a limited point of view as to the extent of knowledge/help here at Thunder’s Place.

I found and joined TP’s because of penis health due to getting cuts/abrasions on my penis from sex. Was more than happy with my size. Sure the primary focus of this forum is about increasing size, but you can learn how to increase your cum load, supplements, help with premature ejaculation, sex advise, etc. Did I gain size? Sure but could care less about it. Biggest priority is to be able to use my penis for sex the rest of my life.

I also go on a body building forum too yet don’t want to be a body builder and find the body style unappealing. I prefer a lean cut up muscular look than bulky huge muscular look. However I do lift weights and go on there for advise on diet, workouts, supplements, etc.

Originally Posted by Averageblack
If you don’t want a bigger penis, then why do you have goals in your signature, much less an account on this forum?
Why would anyone put in the time and effort to make a change to their body that didn’t matter whatsoever?
Because size matters.
You aren’t understanding what I’m saying. Size makes a difference, but that doesn’t mean it’s the only component to good sex. But it is there, and size is proportional to pleasure.


Yeah, size does make a difference. If you’re insecure.

As for my signature, if you paid attention you’d notice there really isn’t a goal, only the words “Anything and Getting Bigger.” And I keep getting bigger, PE is a hobby of mine and I actually like to have amazing orgasms that last a lot longer than any normal mans. As for me being on this site, well, I joined a long time ago and within that time I lost a lot of weight thanks to Thunders Place and their encouragement. Their Fitness Forum is actually a very good place to go if you’re looking for advice on health etc. I just read up on a lot of the threads there. In the beginning my intention was to get bigger, till I realized I was already above the norm for a lot of men. And I just stopped caring about it. But I continued PE as a hobby because I like a good healthy penis that can not only last hours during fucking, but have intense multiple orgasms that last longer than 3-5 seconds.

At the end of your PE journey, you will have gained, that I’m certain of. But will you have gained any knowledge on how you view yourself? That’s the big question. And from the way your posts are going, I’m going to say no you won’t.


5.3" NBPEL.

BPEL 6.5-6.7" Goal: Anything!

Girth: 5" but getting bigger. ;)

Originally Posted by Naked Tomato
Yeah, size does make a difference. If you’re insecure.

As for my signature, if you paid attention you’d notice there really isn’t a goal, only the words “Anything and Getting Bigger.” And I keep getting bigger, PE is a hobby of mine and I actually like to have amazing orgasms that last a lot longer than any normal mans. As for me being on this site, well, I joined a long time ago and within that time I lost a lot of weight thanks to Thunders Place and their encouragement. Their Fitness Forum is actually a very good place to go if you’re looking for advice on health etc. I just read up on a lot of the threads there. In the beginning my intention was to get bigger, till I realized I was already above the norm for a lot of men. And I just stopped caring about it. But I continued PE as a hobby because I like a good healthy penis that can not only last hours during fucking, but have intense multiple orgasms that last longer than 3-5 seconds.

At the end of your PE journey, you will have gained, that I’m certain of. But will you have gained any knowledge on how you view yourself? That’s the big question. And from the way your posts are going, I’m going to say no you won’t.

“5.3” NBPEL Goal: 5.7” NBPEL. :) ” <<<<<<<<<<<< Come on man, be real.
You’re really contradicting yourself here, man. It’s hard to tell where you’re coming from or if you’re just trying to argue for the sake of arguing. Which, I’m fine with. I enjoy a good debate. But you aren’t making any sense.
You’re also assuming that just because I’ve come to the realization that size does matter, that I don’t care about anything else. Of course, I train myself to last longer. I’ve studied female anatomy as well. Practiced oral. All these things that come to make me a better lover, including starting jelqing for the sake of getting a larger penis, because size makes a difference.
Insecurity has nothing to do with the physical dimensions of your penis. To say something like that is completely ignorant.

Originally Posted by Averageblack

“5.3” NBPEL Goal: 5.7” NBPEL. :) ” <<<<<<<<<<<< Come on man, be real.

You’re really contradicting yourself here, man. It’s hard to tell where you’re coming from or if you’re just trying to argue for the sake of arguing. Which, I’m fine with. I enjoy a good debate. But you aren’t making any sense.

You’re also assuming that just because I’ve come to the realization that size does matter, that I don’t care about anything else. Of course, I train myself to last longer. I’ve studied female anatomy as well. Practiced oral. All these things that come to make me a better lover, including starting jelqing for the sake of getting a larger penis, because size makes a difference.

Insecurity has nothing to do with the physical dimensions of your penis. To say something like that is completely ignorant.

How am I contradicting myself? Just because I don’t have an actual goal? You’re the one the seems to be confused.


5.3" NBPEL.

BPEL 6.5-6.7" Goal: Anything!

Girth: 5" but getting bigger. ;)

Originally Posted by Naked Tomato
How am I contradicting myself? Just because I don’t have an actual goal? You’re the one the seems to be confused.

Because you HAVE a goal. It says it IN YOUR SIGNATURE. Which means you CARE about your SIZE. Which means it DOES MATTER. Are you senile….?

Oh, well sorry for not updating my NBPEL signature. Anyway my point is that I don’t have a goal. Are you happy now?


5.3" NBPEL.

BPEL 6.5-6.7" Goal: Anything!

Girth: 5" but getting bigger. ;)

Originally Posted by Paraguayan

I’m very good at oral sex and fingering, but I want to be a complete man, so I’m here to improve my tool too

Some girls actually like more very good oral sex than the penetration. But increasing the penis size isn’t a bad idea :) .

All girls care about size, they talk about it with their friends, it is a much more normal talking topic among girls than you imagine. And in their fantasy dreams they do not imagine small penises… That’s a fact. However, this DOES NOT MEAN that size will determine their decision to marry or hook up with a boy, as that is only a factor among hundreds!

Originally Posted by iLogPE
If a guy says it doesn’t matter, WHY are they here on the forum in the first place??

In this thread, I’m in the “size doesn’t matter as much as many men think it does, to as many women as they think it does, and in the uniform way they think it does (i.e., bigger is always better)” camp, but I’ll simplify that to “size doesn’t matter” for the sake of argument :D

I came to Thunder’s Place because I am a neurotic overachiever, and I felt insecure about my size as a young dude when I knew a girlfriend had had bigger (even though I was big). And I’m here because my narcissistic ego would prefer that I be bigger than ideal for some partners (which I have been, especially after I gained girth by accident) than smaller than ideal for some partners, even though this is really a selfish preference, since the latter women may simply not feel as much pleasure with me as possible, whereas the former may find it downright painful to have sex with me. It’s also an irrational preference even for myself, because with more size I’ve had to deal with worse/shorter blowjobs, less chance of anal (though I don’t care about that), more need for tons of foreplay every time (less ability to fuck spontaneously in weird settings), more need for lube, shorter intercourse before she wears out, longer recovery times before she’s ready to fuck again, etc. With a few women, the additional size has given them even more pleasure, but on the whole, my sex life, for me and my partners, would undoubtedly be better at my former, smaller size.

If I had to name a penis size that might be the optimally useful for good sex with a wide variety of women, it would be something like Firegoat’s signature — 7.5x5.5. And I think average (say, 6x5) would be almost as good for the vast majority of women. But my ego cares about things other than women’s pleasure, or even the quality of sex for me — I feel a stupid need to be King Dick.

I think it’s very similar to bodybuilders who feel the need to create a body that is neither aesthetically/sexually appealing to most women nor functionally useful for most sports or other things in life. They’re doing it for its own sake. They want to be bigger than other guys, and as big as they can get.

Maybe PEers like me, or bodybuilders like that — folks who are aiming for humongous dicks or bodies — really need therapy rather than body changes. I wouldn’t say that’s an unreasonable view :D


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Last edited by Para-Goomba : 07-03-2014 at .

To add to what I wrote above: Following from my example, I don’t think it’s at all unreasonable for guys to want to enhance themselves to a moderately large dick size, or a reasonably fit/muscular body, if they want to please most women. I’d simply argue that few women care a lot about dick size (more do care about fitness…), and very few women have a strong preference for monster cocks or BB bodies.


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The long-and-the-short of it :) is that we kid ourselves that we do PE because it will bring more pleasure to a female.

We do it because we want to feel confident in ourselves; whether that is for the first time a woman sees our penis, or talks to her friends about it, or whether it is when we have to drop our undies in front of a medic or at the gym showers in front of other blokes. :shrug:


Heat makes the difference between gaining quickly or slowly for some guys, or between gaining slowly instead of not at all for others. And the ideal penis size is 7.6" BPEL x 5.6" Mid Girth.

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