Science of hanging and gaining, same as bodybuilding and getting bigger/stronger chest etc.

Well I personally think hanging is more scientific than manual PE, just because you know exactly how much force is being used.

See I don’t understand your theory of hanging at lower weight? I was at the lower weights and no gains, so what should I do? Stay at that weight and hope for gains?You should be reaching fatigue within your first set or two, meaning your dick will be sore and tired.

You can’t just stay at the same weight forever, it’s not going to work. You guys are way too afraid of injury.Be confident with your hanging technique, try the new weight, see if you can take it? If not your penis will tell you, you’ll get slippage, worst case scenario, but I was going up 1.5 lbs. At a time, very safely. I pay attention to my penis and what it can handle.

For example if my max weight is 10 lbs. Then my sets should be something like this:
1st set 10 lbs.
2nd set 9 lbs
3rd set 8 lbs.
4th set 6 lbs.
5th set 5 lbs.
6th set 4 lbs.

After each set usually your penis is fatigued, and because of the fatigue you should have to drop weight. If you can do a 2nd set at the same weight, ok, but usually each set I personally drop weight. I actually go down in increments of 1.5 lbs.

I don’t think the weight should be the same for each set, as some people do, I personally think that is wrong.I think Bib would agree.

It is ok to go up weight once a week, any less than that, and that would be too agressive in my opinion.

What I and a few others are trying to convey is that the goal shouldn’t be to deliberately increase the amount of weight you hang. Increase weight as required to get a good stretch in the time you have available or can make, but don’t make upping the weight a goal.

For example, consider a guy hanging 2 sets per day using a 2 on, 1 off schedule. First, he should hang every day to help minimize recovery. That alone will cause an increase in fatigue. If you’ve been taking rest days, try eliminating them and you’ll see. Next, he should add more time. Let’s say he goes up to 4 sets per day. He may need to reduce the weight used while maintaining an even greater feeling of fatigue than with his original program. That’s great. It’s what we mean by getting the most good out of using the least weight necessary.

Concerning your poor EQ, how long have you been PEing without taking some time off?

FWIW, I gained well from manual stretching when I started PE, but later hanging was the only thing that worked. Different strokes for different folks, but there’s no other way I can reasonably apply the same amount of tension for the time involved. Try holding a manual stretch with even 10 lbs. pull continuously for 15-20 minutes. Then repeat that 3, 6 or more times per day, every day. Unless you have arms like Popeye, it simply isn’t practical. Plus, you’ll have at least one arm occupied the entire time, which often prevents effective multitasking.

Try holding a manual stretch with even 10 lbs. Pull continuously for 15-20 minutes. Then repeat that 3, 6 or more times per day, every day. Unless you have arms like Popeye, it simply isn’t practical. Plus, you’ll have at least one arm occupied the entire time, which often prevents effective multitasking.

Yea it’s ridiculous lol. I was doing that.

Concerning your poor EQ, how long have you been PEing without taking some time off?

I hang 7 days a week, I don’t think there’s a need too take time off. I’ve been doing kegels, going for walks and my EQ is back too good.
For me time off, is a day where I can’ t take my max weight.

Poor EQ is a sure sign that you are overdoing it.

Take the warning. Back off for a week. Continue doing Kegels (you do know those should be non-erect, right?), maybe a heat pad at night before you go to bed.

While you’re on your week off, continue to read and ask questions.

hobby is right on, by the way.

I don’t know about taking a week off. I think my poor EQ is cause I’m not very active and don’t excerise much, EQ is strongly correlated with heart health.

Also have any of you guys done this? During masterbation, make a ring or ok around your base while masterbating, then watching your penis blow up like a bike tire? Was I unknowingly doing girth exercises? I think my girth is what has been limiting my length gains, and why I have to use such a high weight.

All right pauly891. You know best.

It’s not like us old timers around here haven’t seen this time and time again.

You describe the use of extreme weight and of a highly accelerated means of getting yourself from a low weight to an extreme high weight, and then talk about your poor EQ.

Obviously your poor EQ has to do with this:

…and not the fact that you are systematically beating the hell out of your unit; that is, when you aren’t masturbating:

It sounds similar to a squeeze, or Uli, yes.

I don’t know how useful it will be toward your girth goals if it’s done that way (intermittently during masturbation sessions), but it can’t hurt. You can search on “squeeze” or “Uli” and maybe find some more information on that kind of thing.

You think that, but there’s no reason whatsoever to believe that. I think it’s just an idea you have.

I strongly recommend two things.

The first is just with regard to your continued posting here. Please use the spell check feature and then there won’t be so many red marks when I quote you. I’m not trying to get on your case, I’m just trying to give you the heads up that people around here really appreciate it when our members abide by the Forum Guidelines. Especially the moderators and most especially Thunder himself.

I’m asking politely. Help the forum out. It really makes it easier for our international members and the translators - and even us old guys. :leftie:

That’s one.

The second is actually WAY more important.

It’s this: re-evaluate your approach to PE in general, and hanging in specific. It’s doesn’t work by means of overwhelming force; or I should say: it doesn’t work well by use of overwhelming force. When you load yourself up with super high weight, your body may be elastic enough to endure it but, when the weight’s too much, as soon as the weight is taken off your body goes into recoil. This is a basic means our biology has of protecting itself.

When you hang at too high a weight, the experience around here is that your dick may stretch, but then it snaps back and repairs itself to be a little stronger. What you are in effect doing is setting yourself up for getting marginal gains and causing your dick to get much tougher each time it recovers from your super high load sessions. Which will limit your overall ability to make use of PE.

It is for this reason it would really be a good idea for you to take a week off. Seriously. All PE (except 50 non-erect Kegels a day, and a heat pad for 20 minutes each night before you sleep), and no masturbating either. Just see if you can do it. Part of getting the most out of PE is self-control: knowing when to stop.

Really read up on the hanging theories - the current thinking is not based on the use of overwhelming force. It’s about an approach that is akin to physical therapy. When hanging the use of heat and about 7-10 pounds for two twenty minute sets once a week, and the use of a low tension ADS for the balance of the week will get you a lot further than your current approach. It will take a while, but it will be better for your unit overall, and it will be far more likely that your gains will be prolonged instead of curtailed.

Personally, having read all your recent posts I really think you should take the time off and go back to the Newbie Routine. I’d suggest you be really careful and patient and try to understand the exercises and do them 100% properly. I would guess that you used way too much force when you were trying the Newbie Routine out.

I’m sure that won’t happen; you do appear to have your own ideas about things. But I’m telling you:

Your low EQ ain’t about your lack of exercise (though granted that doesn’t help. Maybe get up off your ass once in while and go to the gym?).

I’d bet you had that same lack of exercise before you started hanging 25 lbs. off the end of your dick.

What changed? Therefore, what’s really the culprit for your low EQ?

All I can really say, to you and others who might be following this is:

PE is not about beating the hell out of your dick and forcing it to be what you want. It’s about carefully, and consistently applying just enough stress to encourage it to adapt by getting larger, a little at at time.

It’s a marathon, not a sprint. :leftie:

This thread has gotten ridiculous. There have been some very informative tidbits though. Thanks Mr. Happy.

Pauly, I think if you have poor EQ, you should definitely consider taking a minute to re-evaluate. Some time off, even if just a week, could do you some good. Even if you have doubts, a week won’t hinder your gains much (if at all). Plus, you can use some of that extra time to get that exercise you think is missing from your day to day. Approaching your EQ problem this way might not disprove either of your theories, but more likely than not, you’re going to feel more confident after. The end justifies it.

Be grateful you’ve got some vets here to share their wisdom. It’s okay to question their logic, but you have to respect their experience.

Best.

hobby has said it well here:

hobby - Why we don’t gain from hanging

Read his posts from that one to the end. He says it about as well as anyone can.

This was a dumb thread I created, I was very misinformed, I was doing way too heavy weights, less is more. Doing these heavy weights made my penis turtle, not stretch which it should have.

You’re man enough to admit it, so you have that going for you.

I hope you’re okay.

If you’re still thinking about doing PE, you might think about taking a break. Using heat during the break, and then resuming with more reasonable weight.

hobby has a lot of good analysis of the hanging process. There are other guys as well. Keep reading.

Stay safe.

Hey Mr.Happy

Thanks for your concern, I appreciate it, I do think I am okay. My penis still does have blue under the head, which kind of worries me. I plan on PE’ing for life maybe, depending on gains and how I feel.

The hanging is quite time consuming, but I have got my 5 sets down to 2 hours, with only one short break. I plan on hanging 6 days a week, with always a rest day. Low weight. I learned from something Marinera said, something like, you should be able to do your max weight for 3 sets.
I think hanging should be comfortable, stretching the penis, not making it turtle.I’m hanging 13 # for 3 sets then 11.5 # for 2 sets. I wonder if the weight I’m at is too high, but it seems ok. Not quite sure how to gage the level of fatigue I should be feeling. I know what I was doing with the heavy weights was way too intense. Glad I didn’t get injured, other than the blue under the head.

I’m using the IR lamp for 20 mins while hanging, maybe I will crack out the heating pad for some extra healing, while I continue to recover from all the heavy lifting. I will check out Hobby’s posts thanks Mr.Happy!