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Science of hanging and gaining, same as bodybuilding and getting bigger/stronger chest etc.

Originally Posted by pauly891
No worries. Yea I’m sure technically, PE and body building are very different.


Vastly different, as budz has clearly and colorfully explained.

PE is a sort of body modification that is more akin with physical therapy than body-building. The body-building paradigm, when applied to PE, invariably leads to injury.

Think of one of the most common sorts of body modification that almost everyone has some experience with or knowledge of: orthodontics.

When we adjust our teeth, to fit our idea of how ideal teeth should be aligned and sized within the mouth, we put measured tension on them. Low-level tension, that allows us to use the teeth while the adjustment gradually takes place. Similar to using and ADS, no?

Granted with PE, particularly with the more advanced practices, there is a tendency to put more stress on short term, but I think it’s a case of always going past comfort, but short of pain. In this way we can make changes, but still have use of the organ.

PE has more in common with these sorts of practices than it does body-building.

Manual PE is also, typically, a gradual progression. Your frustration have anything to do with not seeing the changes you want fast enough, pauly891?

PE is marathon, not a sprint.


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Mr.Happy, I’ve decided to just stick with hanging. I figure you can hang most angles you can do with manual PE, but with hanging it’s an exact science and you know exactly how much force is being applied.

There are no frustrations on my part. It’s pretty simple, hang BTC. I plan on being like Bib and many others, working their way up in weight one angle at a time.


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Originally Posted by pauly891
I still find it weird that when I started hanging, I could only take like 5 lbs. Or whatever, and now I can take 25 lbs. So that right there means, my penis has gotten way stronger over time. I just don’t understand the science of how my penis can handle 5 lbs. One day and then 25 lbs. Another?


I’m sure there’s far more to it, but to simplify consider the supporting tissues when hanging to be a bundle of rubber bands of varying strengths and lengths. At first only the shorter ones support the entire load. Over time, as they lengthen/weaken/give way, more stands come into play. So, more weight is required to get the previous effect. At some point all or most are supporting the weight. Add in the strengthening effects from all this conditioning, and there you go. You have more and stronger tissue supporting the weight you are hanging.

We have to become more specific throughout a hanging career. We can’t keep increasing the weight or time we hang indefinitely, but we can apply what we are doing to different, and eventually smaller and smaller ranges of tissues. For example, if the weight and time you’re able to use BTC is no longer working for you, it’s time to focus on something else. Hang that same weight, or perhaps even less, OTS if you haven’t hit that angle before to gain whatever you can. When that piddles out, narrow your focus in some more by focusing on OTL or a similar angle that stresses a narrower area.

The same principle should apply to manual techniques.

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I guess hanging weights from your penis isn’t much different then doing bench press, and working your way up in weight doing bench press. Chest gets bigger and stronger with more weight applied over time. So hanging is just like being a body builder sort of?


Some similar adaptations occur, but otherwise they are apples and oranges as far as goals are concerned. PE is mostly about stretching connective tissue. When hanging, you want the most gain while producing the least conditioning. Get the most stress you can from using the least weight possible, and maintain the fatigue wave. Don’t take rest days to increase healing/conditioning.

Originally Posted by pauly891
with hanging it’s an exact science and you know exactly how much force is being applied.

Hanging isn’t for everyone. If you have good self monitoring skills it is probably the safest form of PE we have. Someone that is sloppy or a space cadet about it could easily break their penis and shouldn’t mess with hanging.

Originally Posted by pauly891
I plan on being like Bib and many others, working there way up in weight one angle at a time.

Might want to re-read hanging theory a bit. It could just be semantics but it sounds as though you view increase in weight hung as a desirable thing and something to be sought after. Nothing could be further from the truth.

The heavier you hang the greater the potential for injury. In addition an upper limit does exist, whatever that limit might be for you. Hanging the heaviest possible weight does not translate into increased gains. You should only increase weight hung out of necessity, hanging at the lowest weight that gives you gains.


Running a Massive Co-Front.

Yes.

What they said.

Read up on IPR as well. There’s controversy about how well it works, but there is also some very good analysis on how the body responds to stress.

PE is not about being able to hang heavy weights, it’s about finding the best weight possible for you to get gains. They are very different things.


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After: I\'d like to show you something I\'m very proud of, but you guys in the front row will have to stand back.

God gave men both a penis and a brain, but unfortunately not enough blood supply to run both at the same time. - Robin Williams (:

There isn’t any ‘science of hanging’, just to say.

What is IPR? Link?

Also have you guys ever seen a guy get to as high as weight as I have and have no gains?lol. I don’t think this is the case, but if I measure on May.1 and don’t see any gains, I may have a breakdown, cause I’ve been hanging since December.

Originally Posted by pauly891

What is IPR? Link?

IPR

Originally Posted by pauly891
What is IPR? Link?


marinera has already provided the link for you, but there’s always:

:search:

:leftie:


Before: I'd like to show you something I'm very proud of, but you'll have to move real close.

After: I\'d like to show you something I\'m very proud of, but you guys in the front row will have to stand back.

God gave men both a penis and a brain, but unfortunately not enough blood supply to run both at the same time. - Robin Williams (:

Originally Posted by pauly891

Also have you guys ever seen a guy get to as high as weight as I have and have no gains?lol. I don’t think this is the case, but if I measure on May.1 and don’t see any gains, I may have a breakdown, cause I’ve been hanging since December.

Oh, no, you are the first one who think that raising weight is the easiest way to achieve gains, no one had this very surprsing idea.

marinera you forgot to add the proper tags: [sarcasm] [/sarcasm]. (:


Before: I'd like to show you something I'm very proud of, but you'll have to move real close.

After: I\'d like to show you something I\'m very proud of, but you guys in the front row will have to stand back.

God gave men both a penis and a brain, but unfortunately not enough blood supply to run both at the same time. - Robin Williams (:

True :) .

My EQ has been terrible lately, I forgot about doing kegels! I did over 100 kegels and then by the night my EQ seemed to get better, hence I think I’m gonna measure gains! If not whatever,I’ll just keep at it.

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