Some women are crotch watchers but most aren’t, as a rule. Women can no more tell what’s in your pants than men can. Arguably gay men watch the most. Women look first at your face, then your feet (to gauge height), then your hands, shoulders, and ass. After that they might look at your package, however it matters little since just about every woman is aware that soft size is no indication of what’s in store. Further, it’s rare that pants are so revealing that anyone can see for certain just what you’re packing. What’s creases, what’s underwear bunching, what’s balls, and what’s dick is impossible to tell with any certainty. Don’t let it phase you.
Thunder’s isn’t like that. Thunder’s here. He makes sure the mods are cool and the commercial scammers stay out. Now members will point out what’s good or bad about commercial products out there, but this forum is definitely not a free-for-all. Advertising is right out save for the rare occasion when a regular develops a product and offers it for sale on a craftsman basis, usually for cost. There are a lot of people who have been here for years and I highly suggest listening the the vets who are always happy to help out. There’s nothing to be sold here, no money to be made. There’s no advertising allowed.
I was a big doubter too given everything I was told by doctors and the bogus PE product companies out there. I spent over a year going over old posts, articles, and getting to know people before I even attempted jelqing. Don’t believe me just for saying-so, do what I did. Look at before/after pics (the members here are relentless at going over photos to make sure they aren’t faked), read back postings, read the articles, and ask a lot of questions. I think you’ll find that what makes Thunder’s different is the sincerity of the people, the lack of hype, and the foundational belief that you don’t need to spend a penny to get a bigger dick. OK, maybe you’ll have to shell out some cash for lube, but otherwise spending money for pumps or hangers or ADS devices is up to you. We discuss all those things; what’s good, what’s bad, how to make it better.
You’ll also see a lot of posts of people just talking. We talk about what women think, what we think, insecurities, and even a whole lot of stuff that has nothing to do with dick. There are even women here. Real women, not Internet :leftie: “women.”
As to the pills, I don’t know of any but the cool part of doing the newbie routine is better flaccid hang. Everyone here will highly suggest doing the newbie routine first anyway as it gets the penis in-shape for the more advanced exercises and get you into the groove of doing PE and learning what your penis can tolerate and what it can’t. All guys are different with different growth rates, comfort levels, pain thresholds, and what works really well for one may not work at all for another. That said, the newbie routine is great.
Again, look around, read the back posts, join in the non-PE forums, learn to make the most of the search function, and have a good time. If there’s any one thing Thunder gets OCD about, it’s grammar and spelling. Keep an eye on that and you’ll be fine.
I think you’ll find this a special place.
