Realistic goal

I wanted to know, exactly how do you know that all guys that don’t reach a gain of 3”x 1” in girth in length that’s because don’t analyze their results or methods and bla bla bla. It can’t be general observation, since I doubt that you can obeserve directly how thousand of people do PE, day after day, for years.

So, what are you basing on your convinctions? Since you are saying, basically, that all those who don’t have incredible gains are dumb, it would be interesting how you can back up your thought.

My post was meant to be an encouragement to a beginner in an effort to make him feel that anything is possible and that it requires hard, intelligent, and guided work. Further, I specified that aiming too high will likely not lead to any negative outcome, as if/when gains stall too much, the sacrifice/reward ratio will become too large for him to wish to continue, and he will simply stop.

Please stop being so argumentative about irrelevant things, marinera. The comment about needing to work intelligently is an astute one: many people simply continue to do the same thing for long periods of time without knowing why (just manual work, just pumping, etc.). It is useful for a newbie to consider.

So you don’t know, it’s just your opinion with no backup. That’s what I wanted to know, thanks.

Actually, there are reasons for my opinions, but because of your attitude I decided not to post them.

I’m really not sure what your issue is, marinera. I have always tried to be respectful towards you for the great benefit you have brought to this forum through your extensive research in the loading, lengthening thread, as well as for the rigor and thoughtfulness in your posts. If you have some personal issue with me, please send me a PM and we can discuss it. Otherwise, try to discuss instead of argue, as it is truly getting tiresome.

You are respectful towards me, but not always toward other members, that’s the issue. In case you have not understood, your previous post could sound a bit irrespective toward members that are on PE for much more time than you are and had little or no gains. They just need to hear a guy saying them : “You had no gains because you are not able to reason.”.

I think also you perfectly understood this point, because it is not a new one, so the one who’s being argumentative is you.