Questions

It seems that when I stretch, my penis gets a little longer but I loose girth, and when I jelq I loose length but gain girth (I’m doing newbie routine) so what can I do to gain both?. Or should I just give it time?

.And what would be more effective?
Jelq first then stretch or stretch and then jelq?
(It might sound like a stupid question but when doing normal exercises is usually better to stretch first then exercise, but since the penis is not a muscle.. Well that’s why I ask :P)

Is it an immediate loss in girth when you stretch or is it becoming permanent? Are you saying if you didnt jelq your member would become a pencil? As with me, maybe it just stretches out so much that it doesn’t loose girth, it’s just very stretched out at the moment, and it loses girth to stretch to max length. Over a short period of time, your member should return to normal girth, and slightly longer length

The loss is not permanent, and it doesn’t get really thin, it just seems like it goes to normal size