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Presumably a Dumb Question

Presumably a Dumb Question

I’ve read a lot about “perfect jelqing” and it’s very inspiring, and in my experience, taking your time to do long and nice jelqs really does give you nice expansion, however-

At the END of the penis. I mean, I must be missing something. Jelqing forces all the blood to the END of the penis, so how could it possibly be the staple of so many veterans? I know when I jelq that the maximum expansion I get is the closer I am to the head. Where do the base gains come from? Where do the mid gains come from? I understand that many people include pumping and clamping in their routines, and that targets the entire penis, but surely I’m wrong in thinking the the jelq PURELY targets the end of the penis?

Not at all a dumb question!

I’m not an expert on jelqs, but I think the effects of jelqs should not be linked only to pure mechanical expansion. If it was only about pressure increase, then your observation regarding more stress on the tip of the penis would be overwhelming. In spite of this fact, statistically only a small number of people complain about “baseball bat” effect. This makes me think that there are other mechanisms involved too: massaging the penis in a cyclic manner could induce some tissue growth.


Starting BPEL: 6.9" (Dec.1st, 2008)

Current BPEL: 8.11" NBPEL: 7.63" BPFSL: 9.09"

Current MEG : 5.6"

You can’t help but stretch the base if you’re pulling toward the head. Maybe stretching is all that is needed. Who knows?


Starting Stats - 5.5 NBPEL x 5.6 EG

Current Stats - 5.7 NBPEL x 6.2 EG

Goal - 7 x 6 (with hopefully a large flaccid hang)

These answers just don’t make sense to me.

I don’t think massaging the penis stimulates outward growth? And hanging does create base girth, but not in the case of jelqing, otherwise people would be developing girth towards the bottom and end of their penis, leaving the middle unexpanded.

I mean, the whole point of perfect jelqs is for maximum expansion, to slowly force blood to the end of the penis, creating large and controlled expansion. But that expansion simply doesn’t occur anywhere below the end.

EDIT:

For exmaple, a topic in this same sub forum..

“Does this happened to any of you?

I’m doing the Newbie routine for 2 months now, and I gor more girth than length.

One add, I’m ovo-lacto-vegetarian, but I don’t eat any kind of meat, including chicken and fish. Do you think this affects the gains?

Should I apply more force to the stretches?

I do only C-Grips on jelqs.

Start: BPEL 5.3 / EG 4.2
Now: BPEL 5.5 / EG 4.85
Goal: BPEL 7.0 / EG 6.0”

He’s gained .65 girth from JUST jelqs? I mean.I have to be missing something right?


Last edited by Cirrow : 10-13-2010 at .

Originally Posted by Cirrow
These answers just don’t make sense to me.

They should. I personally am suggesting that stretching is enough to gain length and girth.

I have gained both, simply by using a traction device, without any other exercises.


Starting Stats - 5.5 NBPEL x 5.6 EG

Current Stats - 5.7 NBPEL x 6.2 EG

Goal - 7 x 6 (with hopefully a large flaccid hang)

Originally Posted by Cirrow
These answers just don’t make sense to me.

I don’t think massaging the penis stimulates outward growth? And hanging does create base girth, but not in the case of jelqing, otherwise people would be developing girth towards the bottom and end of their penis, leaving the middle unexpanded.

I mean, the whole point of perfect jelqs is for maximum expansion, to slowly force blood to the end of the penis, creating large and controlled expansion. But that expansion simply doesn’t occur anywhere below the end.

EDIT:

For example, a topic in this same sub forum..

“Does this happened to any of you?
I’m doing the Newbie routine for 2 months now, and I gor more girth than length.
One add, I’m ovo-lacto-vegetarian, but I don’t eat any kind of meat, including chicken and fish. Do you think this affects the gains?
Should I apply more force to the stretches?
I do only C-Grips on jelqs.

Start: BPEL 5.3 / EG 4.2
Now: BPEL 5.5 / EG 4.85
Goal: BPEL 7.0 / EG 6.0”

He’s gained .65 girth from JUST jelqs? I mean. I have to be missing something right?

I’d have to make one video abou how I’m doing my C Grips for you to understand, but yes, JUST Jelqs and Stretching, exactly as the newbie routine tells me to do. Increasing every time I do the routine, now I am doing 200 Jelqs. The goal is to finish the 3rd month with 300 jelqs. No supplements added al L-Arginine or something like.

Aren’t you telling the effects change from person to person? Some people stay longer than others? Some of us gain one inch a month? (The luckiest blessed ones). I don’t think you are missing something, specially if the gains vary from person to person. I also added I didn’t get much lengh, but much more girth. :)

Could you explain your C grips?

It is about the volumetric capacity of your penis. Jelqs expand inlets and the vascular physiology allowing more blood for expansion. Widening of the chambers; thereby improving capacity, the work your doing stimulates all these areas and not just the outward visual presentation of a penis under pressure. The therapy stimulates more blood intake and that is the goal, take your thimble to a big gulp.

In my opinion, the compression applied by the hand at the base has an effect not far from the blood pressure caused on the head.

You’re circulating and increasing the blood the blood to your entire penis, it’s quite simple.

I can’t believe I’m alone in thinking this.

I guess my question is answered, but allow me to play devil’s advocate…

If the base and midshaft girth are gained from “circulation” or “stretching” then why are the rest of the girth exercises PURELY about expansion? Ulis? Orange Bends? Clamping? Pumping?

There’s no one else here who agrees with me or ponders the same thing?

Your quandaries are about minutiae, in the broad scheme of things it really does not matter because there are areas that come along for the ride. Very few involved with PE have perfect symmetry but many are very close, the expansion of your arteries over time and the general physiology will accommodate greater volumes of blood. It can be expressed in terms of a fresh balloon, you can grab each end and rapidly stretch the material and it becomes easier to blow up. You have broken down enough of the molecular structure to allow for easier intake of air; even though the areas at the end of the balloon were not stressed near as much.

I can’t believe you didn’t understand! Expansion is very important, of course, the most obvious thing. We’re trying to say that it’s not the only one that shapes the dick and you should consider other stimuli too, beyond expansion!


Starting BPEL: 6.9" (Dec.1st, 2008)

Current BPEL: 8.11" NBPEL: 7.63" BPFSL: 9.09"

Current MEG : 5.6"

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