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Physiologic Indicator or too much pressure

Physiologic Indicator or too much pressure

Hey guys,
I didn’t make any significant gains in girth. I´m here like more then 2 years.

New routine: I have tried some routines, even pumping with that huge thing called bath-mate, which makes your dick huge for some time.
Now I’m trying new one. I’ve noticed, that for me, masturbation is not the best thing. So now I’m 2 days in for exercise 1 day off for masturbation. And regen.
I’ve noticed that what kills EQ next day is stretching for me.
My routine is really different from the previous ones, now I don’t count anything, but I starts slowly trapping blood and push it up to glans. Raising the pressure after some time. At the end I feel really engorged and my dick is like 5”2 girth ( normally like 5” -5.1).This method is not painfull, but I really pushing the blood.( at the begging there was some purple spots, but now they don’t appear anymore)
Next day morning my dick is hard and I feel that my 80 % erection is much bigger but it is just temporarily, throughout the day it subsides.

My question is, can this be considered as Physiologic Indicator that is growing? Or I´m just forcing too much blood?
Is it a sin If I don’t warm up? I just starting softly. Raising the pressure

Thank you.

In my experience, there is no need to ‘warm-up’ (I don’t even know what that means). It is the manipulation of the penis that will posit growth, so trapping blood and inducing expansion weakens tissue and allows for greater expansion over time and excessive pressure inducing forces. So, you will see physiological changes due to the trauma being introduced by excessive engorgement and expansion; yes, those are positive PI’s. As you work with PE your penis will develop improvement and robustness just due to the exercise, so you should be able to apply greater forces as the penis builds resistance to the trauma.


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Ok thank you,
Then I don’t understand why jelqing is so popular, when the only think you have to do is to force blood into your penis to expand tissue. Which for me, works much better, because I can create more pressure.

1. So another question rises, what is the right pressure?
2. Do you think that there is difference between forcing the blood once to greater expansion then lesser expansion many times? ( jelqing)

3. I don’t know why, but do you think, that there is a connection between “shower” guys grows easier then growers? I mean like those who consider themselves as showers gain easier girth, because their dicks are bigger all the time. it seems to be logical.

Suckerpunch, it’s not that clear to me what you mean with ‘forcing blood into your penis.’. Do you mean ULI’ (manual clamping)? Jelqing force blood inside the penis too.

The simple stroking called “jelqing” is worthless in the broad scheme of things since it is merely masturbation. It can be said it is better than doing nothing, but it is like fetching the newspaper yourself; rather than sending the dog. The right pressure is a personal matter and everyone dials it in based on experience and trauma indicators, so its difficult for me to tell you a desired level of exertion. I can tell you that from my experience there is a tendency to over-exert at moments because you see the results coming along. The penis is a very robust appendage and can take a lot of ‘heat’ but just before the corona is the weakest part, ‘frenulum.’ I have always use considerable pressure and have had only ‘one’ episode where I injured the frenulum, but it healed in about 3 days.

In my experience, it is always best to hold the pressure and induce the maximal expansion for a 30sec period, and repeat, just like you would isometric exercises (and, perform 6 to 8 per set.) The advantage that ‘showers’ have over ‘growers’ is that they have more physiology to manipulate, so they can perform some contortions and exercises more effectively than those with smaller appendages to manipulate. I am a grower, but I will always ‘fluff’ and build fluid into the vessel so there is greater physiology to manipulate. After all, you are always pulling, stretching, squeezing, if you can have a handful your ability to leverage with greater mechanical force is augmented, its simple physics.


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Arterioles, right?

Marinera,

sorry, my English sucks, Yes its ULI, forcing blood, then trapping it. Than you can squeeze for more pressure. Its better, when its not fully erected for me.

I have found it in glossary Uli’s and Squeezes, ULI number 3, but I just trap the blood, without these moves back and forth.

That’s ok, if you feel ULI’S are better for you go for it.

1. So another question rises, what is the right pressure? A: the pressure that cause the maximum expansion with the minimum discomfort. In doubious cases, better to err on the less force side. Of course this is just my educated opinion.

2. Do you think that there is difference between forcing the blood once to greater expansion then lesser expansion many times? ( jelqing)

A: I do believe jelqing are a better exercises than clamping. And what I am confident is that what really matters is time under tension, not the amount of the tension. I think you should work toward having a bigger than normal erection for at least 30 minutes than having 1 mm more expansion than ever for 1 minute.

3. I don’t know why, but do you think, that there is a connection between “shower” guys grows easier then growers? I mean like those who consider themselves as showers gain easier girth, because their dicks are bigger all the time. it seems to be logical.

A: I never noticed that. Not that I’ve looked in to that actually.


Last edited by marinera : 05-11-2014 at .

Terminal Drop
It took me a while to understand your vocabulary.:) While I was reading it, I had realized, that I should be more aware of my PI’s, because I’m stuck in something that I have read year ago, without consideration of my indicators.

I thought that I was taking the easy routine, because it took a me short period of time (about 15 minutes a day, always kept in my mind these guys who hangs their dicks for few hours), but now I have realized, that if I do 2 days on and 1 off, the first routine after a 3 days break is ideal, penis is softer even in hard state, last time, I was like - “what the fuck, never saw that erection before” (almost forgot in those 2 years of PE because I never took a 5 days break). the second day, I did the same, and that’s what I think hindered my gains all the time. The next day’s 15 minutes wasn’t the easy routine, but simple overtraining. Cause immediately after that I fall back to state of not soft dick, forcing myself to my so called “easy routine” which is not easy at all. So I’m about to try it once again, give it a break then try a) 1day on 2 days off, which is not so frequent on this forum, but if its necessary, or b) do the same, but cut the total time, or even less pressure.

Marinera: I’ll try combining both, like some jelqing at the beginning and then finish it with one or two decent ULIs.

Thank you guys

No problem.

There are some poor conclusions out there as it relates to PE, and the biggest one is to attribute rest periods/or days off as beneficial for growth. When the penis is under trauma it effects erection quality; and when it is allowed to gain health it can maximize erectile pressure and size. So, is it best to ‘feel good’ about your penis health, or should you go after gains. In my opinion, the frequency of PE activities has to be at a high level or at least 5 days a week, and especially at the beginning (if you have gained good size and your not looking at setting records you can PE once a week.)

Frequency breaks down the physiology preventing maximal erection size, and allows you to gain maximum efficiency of your erectile circuitry. After a hard workout your penis will not regain full health for probably 3 to 4 days and maybe longer, but it can feel fairly normal after 24hrs. The idea is not to regain “full” health, you have to maintain a good frequency of strenuous PE, and maybe after 3 or 4 months think about taking a short break. So, in my experience I would never recommend 1 day on and 2 days off.

It is a false conclusion to think that a beautiful erection is the result of taking time off. A beautiful erection (in this case) is just a result of the penis regaining full health. So, its a balancing act of what is being accomplished and what you are trying to obtain. You say you have been doing this for 2 years; if thats the case you should have grown substantially, an inch or more, but judging from your questions you still possess a ‘newbie’ mentality and are inconsistent in your approach. You cannot get big without good technique and high frequency, so you have to be doing the right things for about an hour to 2 hours a day. But, the board is a broad mix of success stories; of course, you never really know what’s real and what’s puffery.


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Terminal,

Maybe you PE to the point where you can’t get wood but your personal experience is not normal. It’s frequent that people who have expressed no indication that their erection level is decreased by their PE also experience an increase with rest. I’d go so far as to say that it’s normal.

Again, your experience of heat is not common. The reason a warm up is part of a routine, is because tissue is relaxed by heat.

I would recommend that anyone take anything Terminal says with huge pinches of salt, potentially truckloads, because it simply doesn’t fit with reality. Unfortunately, TerminalDrop is simply the latest incarnation of a troll we’ve had here for years now, in different guises.


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Last edited by memento : 05-11-2014 at .

Terminal : Well, so what do you propose? Maybe some kind of routine would be helpful, because I canť imagine what exactly you have on your mind. Some of your statements totally contradict with PI thread.

“Frequency breaks down the physiology preventing maximal erection size, and allows you to gain maximum efficiency of your erectile circuitry.” Is it good or bad? So I should go for frequency which kills my maximum erection size, but allows me what?

It sound like, “go for gains, screw your erection quality until your dick drops off, then you gain.”

I’ve been following some routines at the beginning I went for the - more the better, and I ‘ve gained maybe some length, but never get to one hour routine which seems to me crazy.

The last paragraph - no my conclusion was, that I have never listened to my body when it says I should rest. which I realized might be the reason why I never gained.

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