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GettingGrown thanks for those charts — Now the Pre PE and Post PE makes more sense to me. Hoping I can prove it right and end up at least around 8x5.75 BPEL.
Current: BPEL 8"/NBPEL 6.75" MEG 5.2", BPFL 6.75"/NBPFL 5.5" FG 4.5"
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Realistic Goal: BPEL 8.5"/NBPEL 7.5" EG 5.5" | Optimistic: BPEL 9"/NBPEL 8" MEG 5.75" | Dream: BPEL 10"/NBPEL 9" MEG 6.5"
Didn’t we have somebody who worked as medical staff in a penitentiary stating that (Albeit from a smaller sample size) that there was very little difference in correlation to ethnic background?
Sure we had. Hand in hand with statistical studies, But stereotypes are hard to die.
TBH it’s not a discussion I care to get caught up in. I made the statement assuming it was basically a given, it’s a cultural thing I guess, here in America where we have a lot of diversity any woman you ask who’s been with a significant number of men from various races will describe significant variation, there are studies that suggest the same two of which I already posted, and as you pointed out there are studies that can be interpreted quite the opposite. I think by far the most important and interesting data is related to growth rather than starting size.
Meh. I think its more or less an individual thing. I’m far from being the woodsman id like to be, but I have had a few women of ethnicity other than my own. 1 Asian, 1 Hispanic, 3 African American, & yes at the old peep show booths I have played with it in front of a couple African American women as well, & they all said that superstition is b.s. I even remember 1 quoting word for word “a lot of brothers would be glad to have what you have” . & I’m merely 7.25- 7.5 erect length & 5.5 in erect girth on a good day. Plus I have spent some time in county jails & other facilities where your forced to share shower time, & yes I looked. Lol. In all that time only 1 caught my eye as being impressive. For the most part they have stubby lil black peters , like we have stubby lil white Asian & Hispanic peters.
Tbh I think that whole superstition started as a way of building a good stereotype as opposed to all the other negative stereotypes society has put against certain races. But you can believe what you want. & Not to sound hateful or bitter, but the woman sex isin’t entirely known for always being truthful. Lol. Some will say things out of spite if they know it hurts your ego.
Well I took nearly 2 weeks off PE traveling and then getting sick. Been back for a few days now but feeling some apathy about taking the time off and the setback to my PE. I don’t feel terrible about it, but it got me thinking which is why I’m posting here. I think my next study will be on the very thing I am interested in currently, maximizing growth / time. This will involve more manual work but the technical side is done. It will be something similar to the awesome thread done by BeardedDragon on biggest gainers, but this one will have it’s foundations in maximal periodic growth (gains from point in time a to point in time b where a and b are log entries) in a single dimension (i.e. length vs. volume), selecting the most relevant, believable and well-documented cases as the point will be to learn from a collective of the most highly successful PE artists.
This study has told me how long it will take me to reach my goals based on the 50th percentile, 60th etc. but now I need to know how to ensure I am in the 80th+ percentile (or 20th- depending on which way we are going). I will share results on a new thread.
28 Aug 2014: 6.25" x 6" (MEG) >>>>>>>> 30 Dec 2015: 7.25" x 6.5" (MEG)
Goal: Pump 40 min 2x daily 6 mos start 8/23/17 PICS AND PROGRESS
Meh. I think its more or less an individual thing. I’m far from being the woodsman id like to be, but I have had a few women of ethnicity other than my own. 1 Asian, 1 Hispanic, 3 African American, & yes at the old peep show booths I have played with it in front of a couple African American women as well, & they all said that superstition is b.s. I even remember 1 quoting word for word “a lot of brothers would be glad to have what you have” . & I’m merely 7.25- 7.5 erect length & 5.5 in erect girth on a good day. Plus I have spent some time in county jails & other facilities where your forced to share shower time, & yes I looked. Lol. In all that time only 1 caught my eye as being impressive. For the most part they have stubby lil black peters , like we have stubby lil white Asian & Hispanic peters.Tbh I think that whole superstition started as a way of building a good stereotype as opposed to all the other negative stereotypes society has put against certain races. But you can believe what you want. & Not to sound hateful or bitter, but the woman sex isin’t entirely known for always being truthful. Lol. Some will say things out of spite if they know it hurts your ego.
“Merely” lol…
Start (Oct 2010) NBPEL: 5, BPEL: 5.875 inches, BASE GIRTH: 5.25 inches, MID GIRTH: 5
(November 2013) NBPEL: 5.875, BPEL: 6.625 inches, BASE GIRTH: 5.625 inches, MID GIRTH: 5
Goal NBPEL(7-7.5)xMEG(5.5-6) (journal)
I know right? When regular condoms started getting more snug I felt soo good man. Really cool to know you had to climb the ladder. One day my girls gonna need to bring an actual ladder to give me a blowjob jk.
I’m excited to do this study I think it will really help both technically and psychologically. I don’t have a ton of time but I can post a single case at a time too.
28 Aug 2014: 6.25" x 6" (MEG) >>>>>>>> 30 Dec 2015: 7.25" x 6.5" (MEG)
Goal: Pump 40 min 2x daily 6 mos start 8/23/17 PICS AND PROGRESS
YW - DW, I find some of the information useful to formulate realistic expectations and hopefully it will help others in the same way.Thick - My opinion is the biggest factors for the difference are race/ethnicity, and to a lesser degree predisposition to already have some gains from PE prior to first log entry and higher EQ than in non-self-measured studies. IMO and experience, race is the single greatest factor when it comes to differences in reported length, which is why I think there is always going to be a lot of variability from study to study unless this is controlled for. The first study here actually aligns very closely with pre-PE sizes reported here, in fact Thunders is smaller than in this study as progressing up the percentile rank. The third study on that page uses Chinese data so it’s useless and any averages derived using it are useless unless we are only trying to figure out Chinese percentiles and averages. If another study was performed in China, I would bet both datasets would be extremely close.
Hi nice idear ,I’m form china .May i help you something ?
Hi nice idear ,I’m form china .May i help you something ?
Kou6579, I think you mean: “Hi, nice idea, I’m from China. May I help you with something”?
I think Kou is volunteering to ferret out information on data or statistics regarding PE. Thanks, kou6579. Your help may be very useful.
Awesome analysis. GettinGrown, thanks for taking the time to do this.
How is this thread only two pages long?
Start 11/30/17: 6” BPEL, 4.25" MSEG - My Progress Report
Latest 1/29/20: 7" BPEL, 4.75" MSEG - My Progress Photos
Excuse me guys but my english is not perfect and I didn’t understand well: does this data include only people that entered the site (not subscribed to the site) on 14th october 2014? (I don’t understand the term log entries) Why does the older data (e.g. 2011) include more people?
YW - DW, I find some of the information useful to formulate realistic expectations and hopefully it will help others in the same way.Thick - My opinion is the biggest factors for the difference are race/ethnicity, and to a lesser degree predisposition to already have some gains from PE prior to first log entry and higher EQ than in non-self-measured studies. IMO and experience, race is the single greatest factor when it comes to differences in reported length, which is why I think there is always going to be a lot of variability from study to study unless this is controlled for. The first study here actually aligns very closely with pre-PE sizes reported here, in fact Thunders is smaller than in this study as progressing up the percentile rank. The third study on that page uses Chinese data so it’s useless and any averages derived using it are useless unless we are only trying to figure out Chinese percentiles and averages. If another study was performed in China, I would bet both datasets would be extremely close.
Hi guys! Can someone help me to understand what he means with ” in fact Thunders is smaller than in this study as progressing up the percentile rank”.
The average size of Thunders is lower?
This research was well pulled together and well presented. It seems a shame to me that not many commented on it at the time. I think it would be worth an update if the OP was prepared to run the numbers again (if he’s still here), especially as there’s several more years of data to use.
Aug 2015 - 7.0 x 5.25
May 2018 - 8.8 x 5.8