PE and Overall Penis Health Tips

The last few times I have begun a PE routine, I’ve stopped the exercises due to what I feel has been overworking my penis. Generally, I am unable to get an erection over 60% without porn/masturbation, though I can get rock hard while masturbating to porn and while I sleep. Because of this, as well as a host of other factors, I have decided to give up porn.

My previous routines have all looked like:
2 days on 1 off/2 days on 2 off

5 minute warm cloth
A beginners manual stretching routine (usually took 15 minutes)
200-300 Jelqs (usually 12-18 minutes)
5 minute warm down
At this point, I would usually edge to pornography for 20 minutes to an hour. I would ejaculate most of the time

I seriously think that ejaculating has negative results on my gains from PE. I feel amazing if I get to over 5 days without ejaculating, but I rarely am able to do this.

After the first 1 or 2 days of exercises, my penis feels great and hangs much fuller, and I my erections feel good. After 2-4 weeks of doing my described PE routine, I will notice that my penis just looks rather abused. It will be darker, kind of firm when flaccid (not squishy), the skin looks wrinkled, there will be little dark veins visible along my shaft, enlarged veins around the base of my shaft, sometimes a hardened and slightly painful vein near the top of my shaft will appear, The scrotum skin takes on a loose and thin appearance, looks like an old man, or it will just look angry dark red/wrinkled at other times. My penis might ache a little or I just don’t feel like pulling on it or exercising it any more. I think I might need to give it a long break while I get off of porn and learn to get 100% erections without it.

Anybody have an experience similar to mine? Any tips for overall penis health while I take a break?

Wang

I share your opinion that you may have overworked your unit.

Basically, what you do sounds good. I think you did simply too much, probably too intense and probably too frequent too.

I absolutely support your no-porn-tactic, I think it will be very beneficial. Regarding masturbation, I am less strict and say ‘no fap 3 hours before training’. After the training, anything is possible in my opinion, although I have, for myself, a better feeling when I hold my urge back and wait until the evening (my routine is always in the morning).

I would suggest a “slow motion approach” in order to identify your individual “growth zone”. The idea is simply to step up very slowly and only after a measurement day which is every 4 weeks. You’ll then need patience and dedication - but you will risk less and probably get the desired results.

A) Intensity
When jelqing apply only minimal force. The OK-grip should be as if you were dripping honey off a stick - not more! Start at flaccid and let it grow during jelqing. Focus and feel the blood flowing through your dick - this can only happen when jelqing really slowly.

Same for stretching: do not stretch to the point of pain. Go for 90% only, do not rush into stretches but build up the pull force over several seconds. The same rule applies to the end of the stretch: slowly back to unstretched!

B) Quantity
Start small! I do everything in 5 minute slabs of time. So the basic exercise would be:
5 minute warm up
5 minute jelq
5 minute stretch
5 minute warm down

I recommend stretching after jelqing. I have the impression my dick is less tires for the jelqing.

Step up the quantity in 5 min steps after 4 weeks only. I think your dick needs some very gentle treatment, so give him time to adapt to the new routine.

Second phase then would be:
5 min warm up
10 min jelqing
10 min stretching
5 min warm down

C) Frequency
Again, start slow and go safe. I think a 2 off/1 on routine should do it for the first 4 weeks.

Next step would be 2off/2on
then 1 off/ 2 on
then 1 on / 1 off
etc etc

Alternate increase in quantity with increase in frequency. And keep strictly to the “change only after 4 week measurement day rule”.

D) Consistency
Keep a detailed logbook. Note every day any PI-relevant incident (erections, EQ, masturbation, intercourse etc).

Plan your month ahead, in detail how many jelq or time spent jelqing, how many stretches and which direction etc etc. And then fill in what of the planned routine you did, what you did not do, and what you did too much.

Be extremely honest in your logbook - you are only doing this for yourself, so no use in telling fairy tales. As an example: I am a smoker and write down every day the amount if cigarettes I had smoked the previous day. Just by doing this my consumption went down by a third; I was so much shocked by my dependency…

Conclusion

I am conscious that this is extremely demanding - in discipline. Especially if success happens and your PI and EQ go up in the sky. But I am convinced you have to find the zone and then stay in it.

Maybe you try, maybe not. It’s your only dick, so please treat him gently!

Richard, thanks for the advice. I’ve been reading over these forums that past couple of days, and I have to say you are one of my favorite posters, mostly because of your avatar.

Lol

yeah, that lady is my attention raiser in the worse sense. I can write whatever I want, I always get compliments for her booty.

I start to seriously develop a personal relationship to that completely anonymous but well rounded, perfectly plump, probably very elastic and certainly very thrust-responding biiiiiiiiig booty :-)

My Avatar is my fate, may the spirits helps me in my chase…

(WTF am I writing here, I am neither drunk nor drugged - I fear this booty is simply enchanted and hits my lyric nerve)

Ah forget it - that booty simply reminds me of my first serious love who was a Brazilian lady. She had that type of perfect big booty and since then I worship the perfect full ass until I die!

Lol. Beautiful, so eloquently stated. All hail the perfect full ass

Alright. I feel like I’ve rested my dick long enough, and I will start my exercises tomorrow. I plan on following the outline that Richard described for me in this thread.

I’ve taken a bunch of notes on how my dick looks currently (size, veins, coloring, spots, skin, functionality). I’ve also researched a few threads discussing how to prevent the “turkey neck” effect, and there seems to be some disagreement among the effectiveness of some of the methods used (some people say stretching the skin on the shaft and testicles only makes matters worse). Already having mild turkey neck due probably to circumcision, I don’t want my ball sack connected any higher on my shaft or bunching up around the base of my penis.

I’m looking for simple preventative methods. Will using the free hand when jelqing to hold the ball sack in place prevent this from happening, or would a piece of cloth tied around your sack in a certain place work? I’m not interested in using an overly elaborate device unless it just works perfectly. Has there been any new discoveries by posters here on this topic?

Thanks

Well

The over-elaborated device I use to prevent turkey-neck building is… my other hand. While jelqing, I alternate hands and always clamp the base with one hand while doing the (very slow!) jelq movement on my other hand. The clamp force is very low, basically just holding the skin at base, not really compressing.

But as I am doing wet (or rather very lubricated) jelqs, I have to have a certain grip, otherwise my scrotum would probably travel all the way along the jelqing hand.

The other fact is that turkey-neck more builds up when length gains are faster than girth gains. The dick gets thinner in proportions, and the scrotum gets more pulled toward the glans when erection occurs. But as more girth comes, the skin gets more tightened around the corpi cavernosi and therefore should remain more in place.

So nothing to really care about. Anyhow, a turkey neck does not really disturb, as it will simply add more girth in penetration. So who are we to complain.

Alright thanks. That makes sense.

Could you elaborate on how you use a certain grip to hold the scrotum in place during wet jelqs? Thanks again

Wanga

I use the same grip as for jelqing, as the clamping hand will be in turn for jelqing.
So it’s the overhand OK-grip.

Ok, Richard. I just completed my first exercise routine. Did 5 minutes each of warm up, jelq, stretch, and warm down. My balls and dick didn’t hang very low leading up to the PE session today (I guess its called turtling), and my ballsack remained tight and close to my body during this PE session.

After the session, my penis and balls began turtling (losing the temporary pump pretty quickly) within minutes of ending the warm down.

The exercise felt great. There was absolutely no pain and I was very gentle.

I jerked off 3 times yesterday after abstaining for a week, and I suspect that had something to do with the way I was hanging today.

My question is about your opinions on doing PE when your balls are turtled in close to your body. Should I warm them up until they hang low, or do you think that yesterday’s jerk off session had an effect on today’s hang? In your opinion, does your post-PE session hang effect your gains?

Thanks

P.S. Should I be doing Kegels? If so, when and how many?

Morning Wang

Kegels? Yes, for sure. Just have a look at the routine description in my signature.

As for warm-up of the balls: I have no intention of having kids anymore, so heat-up an down is done with a rice-sock. I basically sit on it and bend it upwards to the navel. Like a diaper :-)

So I get warmed up from the inner penis up to the base of my dick. The rice sock is rather long, maybe 14 inches. Like this everything gets really well warmed up and I have no turtling effect afterwards. Therefore I suppose it’s the heat.

Sounds good. I still plan on having kids someday, so I’ll have to figure out what works for me

Well, you can still use a rice-sock.

Just lay on your back, put it on the pubic bone with the lower end, the bend your dick upwards to the navel and lay it on top of the rice sock. Then bend the sock downwards and you get a nice wrap all around your dick.

Like this. you can keep the heat away from the balls but you still warm-up the ligaments at the base of the dick. And this is, in my eyes, important for the stretches.

Hope hat helps

Richard, I have a question regarding the routine you advised for me. You say to increase the exercises by 5 minutes each after 4 weeks, as well as changing your on/off day schedule after 4 weeks.

Are you saying after 4 weeks I should go from:

2 off/1 on

5 minute warm up
5 minute jelq
5 minute stretch
5 minute warm down

To:

2 off/2 on

5 minute warm up
10 minute jelq
10 minute stretch
5 minute warm down ?

Or would you advise another combination of on/off days and 5 minute increases? I know you posted “Alternate increase in quantity with increase in frequency”, but I’m not 100% clear on what to do. Could you post an example of what increases to my routine should look like over the next 12 weeks or so? Thanks as always

Wangslanga

by re-reading my own post I see that I did not choose optimal terminology. So let’s try again:

I call “duration” the time needed for the single training modules in steps of X minutes. I use 5 minute intervals. Warm-up and warm-down are always a fix 5 minute time. Only stretching and jelqing modules will vary in time.

An overall “routine” is composed of the modules warm-up, stretching, jelqing, warm-down.

Then I call “frequency” the rhythm by which you distribute the routines over the week.

Now the sentence of alternating: during a gradual build-up into a intended routine, my idea is to alternate between increase in duration and frequency.

However you set your goals for a specific routine, I always recommend this approach. The idea is to give your dick the time necessary to emit signals of discomfort (negative PI’s). By switching between duration and frequency you theoretically should be able to know, based on your PI’s, if you do the right amount of growth stimulus (duration) and i you do enough of it (frequency).

Let’s a make a simple example: you plan to get into a 15min stretch/15min jelq routine you want to do 4 times a week. You want to reach your routine in the sixth month.

So in the first month you’d do 2x/week a 5s5j routine (5 min warm-up/5min stretch/5min jelq/5min warm-down).

Month 2 then would be 2x/week a 10s10j routine - the increase in duration.

Month 3 then: 3x/week a 10s10j routine - the increase in frequency.

Month 4 then: 3x/week a 15j15j routine - again increasing duration.

Month 5 then: 4x/week a 15s15j routine - last increase in frequency, you reached your routine goal.

Is this explaining my idea a bit better?