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Orgasm without ejaculation Does anyone

Originally Posted by Dangle
By reverse kegeling, are you able to not ejaculate?

:-k

Lol, I wrote that huge post for nothing, eh?

And the answer is yes. :)

Originally Posted by ThePapSmearster
That’s what I was talking about in my post. At least I think, unless I’m mistaken. I would go past the point of no return orgasm I would cum but just hold it back wtih the pc. So the semen would just go back into prostate until next time.

Keep working on it. It does take a long time to master. I remember when I first started reading about multiple orgasms (on these forums): I thought I would never be able to do them. But what do you know? Dedication pays off? Would you ever have guessed? ;)

Originally Posted by jab79
I can stop my ejaculation sometimes but usually It gets too hard to hold back after 3 attempts.

The orgasms I get from holding back doesn’t even compare to the feeling I get when I ejaculate though.

The orgasms seem to be a lot stronger since I started PE, maybe I just feel more since I began to understand myself or my penis I’m not quite sure lol.

Aye, PE is very good for self-familiarity :) .

The non-ejaculatory orgasms will get stronger as you gradually become capable of isolating the sensation (focusing your mind on it); and when you can bring the heightened sensual sensations upon yourself quicker (quick kegels will do this); and when you can extend ‘the point of no return’ for prolonged periods (reverse kegels will do this).

Eventually the orgasmsssss you get from edging are far, far more pleasurable than any you could ever conceivably get from sex (excluding tantric sex, I believe). Though the wide array of different and exciting feelings and emotions experienced in sex are not present (unless you’re on some fucked up hallucinogenic or whatever).


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Beasty

It’s strange, that not long ago I discovered the effects of reverse kegels myself. After the point of no return, I was kegeling to stop it as usual, when surprisingly I realised that relaxing the PC muscle a little and contracting it again (just like the ABS in cars, lol :D ) was much easier.

My accomplishment so far has been to develop my PC muscles with kegels. I see you’ve got some further experience, but I don’t totally get it. I can stop ejaculation, and I can do this 3 or max. 4 times total. But after a point my PC becomes so tired I can’t hold.

<boing wrote>:::
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When I am close to ejaculation, I will contract my muscle and my dick starts to shiver and that gives me an orgasm. Then I can continue having sex/masturbate and repeat that few more times if I want. But after that when the urge of ejaculation gets really strong and I’m holding it all back when the point of no return comes, I’m having a really big orgasm, but the bad thing is that my dick still gets soft after that so I want to fix that somehow
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My situation is smilar to boing. What more exactly, after this point?
After I stop ejaculating, my dick goes back soft. So how can one extend these orgasms?


Start: 6.9 BPEL x 4.9 (17,5 x 12,5 cm)

Now: 7.7 BPEL x 5.7 (19,5 x 14,5 cm)

What is a reverse kegel?

Originally Posted by Kyromoto

What is a reverse kegel?

Lol :(


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I posted everything I know below. I do it all the time, so it is definitely possible with practice.

The only additions I can suggest is the use of a cockring, which was completely mindblowing, to help retain wood after the first orgasm. Good luck.

Cumming so fast

Originally Posted by kaan
Beasty

It’s strange, that not long ago I discovered the effects of reverse kegels myself. After the point of no return, I was kegeling to stop it as usual, when surprisingly I realised that relaxing the PC muscle a little and contracting it again (just like the ABS in cars, lol :D ) was much easier.

Yes, I think after holding the muscle for ages, you think: hey, I wonder what happens if I relax it?

Originally Posted by kaan
My accomplishment so far has been to develop my PC muscles with kegels. I see you’ve got some further experience, but I don’t totally get it. I can stop ejaculation, and I can do this 3 or max. 4 times total. But after a point my PC becomes so tired I can’t hold.

I totally understand your situation here. It’s hard for me to describe much of this as alot are merely my experiences, experiments, rather than something I read and then tried to put into practise. It’s more of a trial and error thing if you follow, and I think that would be the best course for you. If you know it’s possible, you will find the way eventually.

Regardless, I will try and explain. OK. You know that feeling you get on the point of no return? While fucking this feeling usually makes you moan very heavily. I’m assuming you know what feeling I mean here, so I will continue.

Try and, instead of making ‘stopping ejaculation’ your primary objective, to instead amplify and intensify that feeling described above. Enjoy it, visualize it, let it overwhelm you. What you are aiming for, again, is an extended period of the ‘point of no return’.

Let me try and explain. When you kegel normally to stop ejaculation, you have a sort of ‘mini-orgasm’, yes? It’s not as powerful as one you totally let go on, is it? Sometimes it is yes, but usually it isn’t. The mini-orgasm you feel when kegeling is the feeling you get once you hit the point of no return. That is why the longer you leave the kegel-hold to stop ejaculation, the more pleasurable the mini-orgasm is (and hence, also, why we sometimes leave it for too long and lose control).

What if, then, you kept yourself at this ‘point of no return’, but had such utter control as to not go beyond the point, and neither retreat back? You will be in heaven, is what if.

It is very possible, but to achieve this you need to know yourself very well. You will have to quickly bring yourself to the point of no return (hard, fast wanking), and then once you hit it, you slow down and lightly touch - experiencing every sensation with your utmost attention. Controlled breathing is also an aid.

An example of something you can try and go off to do, augmented with the rest of my information:
1. get to the ‘point of no return’
2. slow down and reverse kegel.
3. Stop stimulation (for 3-5 secs, max),
4. (simultaneously as 3) kegel a few times.
5. Start stimulation again until point of no return gets too much

repeat

(Note that after doing this like 10 or more times, it WILL get too much. Every time you do one of those examples, the feeling gets higher and higher. An instance will come eventually, where you have a choice: either cum or otherwise you have to use all your self control and stop the pleasure, tuck your dick in your pants and go away for an hour (though 4 minutes would suffice). This is like training. Every time you do this, the pleasure gets more intense, and I bet the BC muscle gets stronger too. You can carry it on, having 4-5 (and more) orgasms, 3-4 (or more) times a day for days and days. Really. Not only this, but after a few days you become insanely horny. As in you fall in love with any girl in sight insanely horny, yes I mean butterflies and everything.

One thing a lot of guys might be missing is that masturbation doesn’t have to be a ‘fast and hard’ all through it. In fact, it’s better if you are very ‘gentle’ with it, as this will increase your sensitivity and pleasure. Hard wanking will stop you from being able to ejaculate while fucking.

Originally Posted by Kyromoto
What is a reverse kegel?

The Beasty One - Orgasm without ejaculation Does anyone

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Originally Posted by pimpgangster
I posted everything I know below. I do it all the time, so it is definitely possible with practice.

The only additions I can suggest is the use of a cockring, which was completely mindblowing, to help retain wood after the first orgasm. Good luck.

Cumming so fast

I’m interesting in a cock ring. They sound proper sick. :-k


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Thanks to all of you And I'm waiting more and more opinions

First of all, thanks to all of you,

I’ll try everything you’ve shared here.
Of course, I’m waiting more and more opinions, because, I understand that every individual has it’s own characteristics..

Thanks again

Read The Multiorgasmic Man - it’s basically an entire book devoted to ejaculation-free (multiple) orgasms. The Tao philosophy is NOT to ejaculate as this saps our “sexual energy” - why do you think most guys feel fatigued after they blow? You can stop ejac - which is simply an involuntary muscle spasm - by a number of techniques described in the book. I’m starting to put these into practice and I’ll report back. In the meantime I would recommend you pick up this book as it deals exactly with this issue.


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Beasty, thanks for the reply :

Originally Posted by The Beasty One
Try and, instead of making ‘stopping ejaculation’ your primary objective, to instead amplify and intensify that feeling described above. Enjoy it, visualize it, let it overwhelm you. What you are aiming for, again, is an extended period of the ‘point of no return’.

What if, then, you kept yourself at this ‘point of no return’, but had such utter control as to not go beyond the point, and neither retreat back? You will be in heaven, is what if.

Hmm, that sounds great.

Originally Posted by The Beasty One
It is very possible, but to achieve this you need to know yourself very well. You will have to quickly bring yourself to the point of no return (hard, fast wanking), and then once you hit it, you slow down and lightly touch - experiencing every sensation with your utmost attention. Controlled breathing is also an aid.

An example of something you can try and go off to do, augmented with the rest of my information:
1. get to the ‘point of no return’
2. slow down and reverse kegel.
3. Stop stimulation (for 3-5 secs, max),
4. (simultaneously as 3) kegel a few times.
5. Start stimulation again until point of no return gets too much

repeat

(Note that after doing this like 10 or more times, it WILL get too much. Every time you do one of those examples, the feeling gets higher and higher. An instance will come eventually, where you have a choice: either cum or otherwise you have to use all your self control and stop the pleasure, tuck your dick in your pants and go away for an hour (though 4 minutes would suffice). This is like training. Every time you do this, the pleasure gets more intense, and I bet the BC muscle gets stronger too. You can carry it on, having 4-5 (and more) orgasms, 3-4 (or more) times a day for days and days. Really. Not only this, but after a few days you become insanely horny. As in you fall in love with any girl in sight insanely horny, yes I mean butterflies and everything.

Well my situation now is: after that orgasm and kegels and revelse kegels etc. my dick goes soft. Of course it takes much less time to stand up again compared to ejaculating, but it’s soft nevertheless and takes time to get another erection. I feel like I am satisfied and loose interest in “orgasm” temporarily

But there must be a way, so let’s keep working !!
Thanks again for the kind reply and great hints. ;)

fauxreal,
I’ve got the book “Taoist Secrets Of Love Cultivating Male Sexual Energy” by Mantak Chia (wow, he’s got the word “chi” in his surname, I realised is now, cool :D [ps: chi means sexual energy ]) ,but I’ve been lazy up to now I didn’t even fully read it. No doubt it’s great stuff.

I’ve seen in a program(sex shop) at XXL (the French porno channel ) , it was a bout Taoist sex, the interview was made in America. She mentioned about a Kung Fu master guy who is 86 years old, and haven’t ejaculated in 60 years!! :D But he loves sex and does plenty. Mein-gawd, ain’t that cool !! :D She said he was so strong he could throw you accross the room.

Oh and she said, that a single ejaculation costs equivalent to the nutrition you get from 4 full meals, oy..

ps: oh, I’ve got the “too much smiley in your post” problem again :( <


Start: 6.9 BPEL x 4.9 (17,5 x 12,5 cm)

Now: 7.7 BPEL x 5.7 (19,5 x 14,5 cm)

Originally Posted by kaan

Well my situation now is: after that orgasm and kegels and revelse kegels etc. my dick goes soft. Of course it takes much less time to stand up again compared to ejaculating, but it’s soft nevertheless and takes time to get another erection. I feel like I am satisfied and loose interest in “orgasm” temporarily

Yeh. This happens. I think it may be the BC muscle getting exhausted. Obviously leave off till whenever you feel horny again (your body knows best, after all). You may notice a couple of interesting developments next time you edge: the ‘feeling’ will be stronger, AND the erection will last longer. Then do the same again. And again. Eventually, you’ll be so insanely horny that it actually does become a struggle to stop. You can go on for hours eventually. :)


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Originally Posted by The Beasty One
I’m interesting in a cock ring. They sound proper sick. :-K

Go to Lowes. They are in the hardware section for 99 cents!! I use a steel o-ring that is 1.5 inches. I put it on flacid and it is a tight fit at the base. Once I get hard.. The girth is amazing. I’m normally 7X5.75. I clamp regularly, so my dick is used to getting abused. With the ring on, I’m 6” mid-shaft and 7.5 at the base. The look on my wife’s face when I put it in the first time was PRICELESS. I heard moans I’ve never heard before.

For her, it is like being with a different guy. For me, she is so tight, it’s unbelievable. With the ring on, I can cum 3 times easily in under 20 minutes. Getting the ring off requires some effort. Lots of hand lotion and easing it off. My advice, if you have some clamping under your belt, try it alone first. You need to know you can get it off and that you dick isn’t going to come apart at the seams after 15 minute. Or.. Don’t be a cheap bastard and get one that opens, but I love the steel ring. I already broke one cable clamp doing bends while clamped, so I can’t imagine that anything other than a solid ring could stand up to the abuse.

Wow pimpgangster can I try a rubber o-ring first? Using a steel one scares me a lot, specially since I am a newbie.


Initial Measurement (11-Sep-2006): BPEL: 13.8 cm, NBPEL: 12.7 cm, EG(Mid): 13.0 cm

9th Month Progress (6-Jun-2007): BPEL: 15.2 cm, NBPEL: 14.2 cm, EG(Mid): 13.5 cm

If you put cold water on your dick, you will lose the erection slowly and you can take the ring off with relative ease. Haha I know this because I used to clamp with monty’s lead weights haha, probably not a great idea, but I could always get them off fine.

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