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No clue on good goals. Virgin here.

No clue on good goals. Virgin here.

I guess my problem is that I don’t have any reasonable expectations for what an ideal penis size is, and I hope the thread title makes it obvious why. Honestly, I’ve never been on a date, I can remember every single instance when I’ve kissed someone (and count them on one hand), and the one time I was literally picked up by a hot girl at a party, basically total ED killed it (drunkest night of my life, also the first time I mixed alcohol and marijuana! Vomiting a lot :) .. )

I’ve certainly been a bit insecure about the size of my penis growing up, having only porn to compare to, and while I knew that was completely unrealistic, it didn’t inspire immense feelings of adequacy or confidence. A few experiences have led me not to feel bad about my penis, one of them coming here. Not that I felt I “needed” a bigger penis, but of course I thought “hey, why not?”

My measurements starting out are about 7.125 BPEL and 5 MSEG (had previously gotten the idea that you shouldn’t press while measuring, and then read up on what the acronym BPEL meant). I’ve been reading on the forum and have come across a number of comments about guys wondering what “too big” is. Girth was a big issue for both ease of different sexual acts and even the possibility of sex altogether at times. I’ve seen mentions of length as well, citing the usefulness of being just long enough for the one woman you want.

I’m 24 btw, and I have basically no interest in casual sex. I was always kind of a shy, idealistic romantic, and enough of that remains that I pretty much only want a physical relationship that’s attached to a serious emotional one. I’d be perfectly content not having sex at all (or not enjoying sex “as much as possible”) until I get married (or make some equivalent commitment to a woman). I don’t have a religion, this is just personal preference.

I’m wondering if there aren’t some fellows who might share their experiences with PE enhanced penises and how different women respond to them? I’m perfectly willing to wait until I’m in a relationship to start PE, but it’d be nice to know if there was some reasonable limit to size that 99% of women would not be bothered by (given how long it can take to get any results, it’d be convenient at least to find out what works for me, get my penis used to some basic exercise).

I should mention I’m a little short for an american, about 5’ 8” - 5’ 7.5”, and I do have a fondness for smaller girls.


First of all: that is a real thoughtful post and I think somebody who thinks before rushing into things will be able to follow the “safer is better” path in PE. So I try to give a thoughtful answer.

So you started your PE career and now worry about getting too big. I can calm you a bit by my own experience. I was a natural 8.34x5.51 before starting PE last September. In my 47 years, I rarely encountered women (and men…) who couldn’t deal with my size. And I am growing - and my Madame enjoys it.

The length sometimes was a bit problematic whenever I forgot myself and raced in like there was no tomorrow. But girth always was ok - and these 5.51 are mid-shaft. The glans girth was at 6.14 pre-PE.

Having a big dick just gives you more responsibility as lover. You are in charge to get your partner dripping wet before attempting to enter. But as this is a highly pleasurable activity, I hope you will take this advice and pursue foreplay for a long time. Women usually like good and long foreplay and you may get quite some favours back when they know you as a rather giving than taking lover.

My bed rule is: at least one female orgasm precedes the male penetration! Or, if a quickie is requested, then lubrication is mandatory. As simple as that.

This has nothing to do with dominance or submission, it’s just about getting her really hot before your dick will get the action time flag. As you are in the moment on voluntary chastity, that I absolutely respect, the time for practice will come when you feel you’re ready for it.

I had quite a bit of luck in the genetic lottery, but that’s not the topic and as I can’t influence it I am even no proud of it. I simply want to say by this that you don’t have to worry about getting too big that fast. But you have great starting stats to build a huge one!

At 7.15x5.0, you are already well above average and I guess this looks already very good in your body size. But is it too much? I’d say no problem, go ahead. Even if you are fancying rather petite women, this does not really matter. Vagina size does not correlate to body size.

I’d say: Go on with PE, especially because you do not have a girl right now. This is a privileged moment, afterwards, when you are in a relationship you will realize that good PE needs time - and privacy! So better profit from all the privacy you have right now. That does NOT mean I recommend you to be single at all just because you do PE. All the opposite, I wish you meet the love as soon as possible and get you into her pants and more with whatever you have a size right then.

PE is done, for each man and only for himself, as booster in ego, as catching up if he wants to be bigger, or simply because he wants to be bigger without having a precise reason. It does not make us better people, nor better lovers or husbands or friends. It just makes us men with bigger dicks - period. But the ability to transform your own body through dedication and consistency will transform your self-perception because you know YOU made it!

So get big and bigger without hesitation!

Oh yeah, and a last word from Grand-Pa from pre-Internet area: get rid of porn! This will really change you. The brain is our biggest sex organ, an porn really damages it.

Always wishing you good gains and a great EQ - Richard65

My logbook: Richard65 - the roadbook and my routine: Richard65's Routine

Hi, as I mentioned below I am now 55 and I have been with the same woman for almost 30 years now. Like you at about your age I became disillusioned with the casual aspect and to be honest just waited until someone came along that interested me. I had standards and was bored with dumb good looking girls.

Well we met and it was over for me. She was the Gold Standard so to speak. Anything else was less. My wife likes to say, “There is someone out there for everybody”.

From my experience the correct size for your mate is when the woman is on top she can hit her cervix if she WANTS to yet still be able to rub her clit on your public bone for an orgasm. If it’s too long she can’t. At that point it is for YOUR entertainment.

Hi georgey! Welcome to Thunders!

You sound like a great person and I hope you do find the woman youre looking for soon. Im 25 yo and I feel the same about finding a meaningful relationship. In my experience sex is just better (way better!) with someone you truly care about. I felt I could last longer and I was always sexually charged with my ex that I loved. I have been with someone since then and it didn’t feel very good and I wasn’t as driven.

As for the ideal size, that depends on the woman youre with. The ex that I loved was 5’6”, im 5’5”, and I was too long to go all the way in. Sex was kinda painful for her to start because she was not very experienced and was tight. Soon it was amazing and she felt formed to my penis. My recent ex was 5’3” and I was again too long but not thick enough so it didn’t feel as good.

You are already a great size and I don’t think you should try and grow any unless you just want to. I am growing but it’s more for personal satisfaction and ego than for function. Wait until you find the right woman, you don’t want to find her and then turns out your painful for her and cause stress on your relationship. Just focus on EQ and improving function.

Bpel: 7.625

Mseg: 5.125

FSL: 8.125

georgey123, it is like Richard65 has told you! You can have a massive cock and tear women up or be a good lover and pleasure them all night. Think about the fact that women have babies through that hole. Girth is no problem if you get them juicy they will make it fit. Believe me they will make it fit. I was with a woman lately that I fucked37 years ago for 5 years steady. I could just about get my whole hand in her back then. I’d play with her for half the night before I fucked her. But now, I could only get 2 fingers in her and she wanted my cock within 5 minutes. She never had any children and got married when she was 40. Her husband thinks once a week is too much sex and he must not stretch her. After two, 1 week long rendezvous she found out her hips were able to open wider than they had in 37 years. haha We fucked like rabbits morning and night. I Love to make women cum. I don’t care if it takes all night! She said she didn’t know sex could be so good after menopause! haha. I even had her squirt the bed full a couple of nights. She thought I had peed in her. LOL We had to finally call it quits or get divorced. I miss her but my wife is in overdrive so it’s not the sex I miss. I hope it goes away.

Pre-PE 11/11 BPEL 5.9 EG 5.3

Started PE: 3/12 BPEL 6.0 EG 5.6 * Current: BPEL 7.0 EG 5.9 BPSL 7.4 Nut Lgth 2.5" * Goal: BPEL 7.3 EG 6.3 BPSL 8.00

Mind over matter. All of life is transitional.

Thanks for all the responses everyone! I find it pretty encouraging to hear people with larger penises not having too much trouble with their love-making. Sounds like high levels of arousal are crucial in accommodating a rather large penis.

I guess something like what homer said is on my mind. Being able to let a woman control stimulating both her cervix and clit with my body sounds like a really ideal length, but girth seems like I don’t have much to worry about if I can turn her on enough (and I’m a pretty big fan of foreplay).

With that thought, idk how long I want to go. I wanted to get all (or almost all) my length gains in before I started girth, as I’ve read girth makes length gains a lot harder. I think I’m likely to say that around 8.5 (I’ll probably be happy with whatever that cements as) will be enough, and then just focus on girth.


Just gradually start into the Newbie Routine and keep it as long as you are gaining. Or copy/paste my routine (in my footline) which is only a very slight modification of the NR.

Just start with 5/5min stretch and jelq, upgtade to 10/10mins after 4 weeks and then 15/15mins after 8 weeks. May feel painfully slow, but safety is more important than gaining speed. Like this you can watch your PI’s closely and stop or draw back if it’s too much.

So keep a good logbook with all the details. That usually helps to remember.

Happy gaining!

Always wishing you good gains and a great EQ - Richard65

My logbook: Richard65 - the roadbook and my routine: Richard65's Routine

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