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Originally Posted by luckyjj
Due, in part, to negative feedback, I would be reluctant to comment on the ability of aromatase to actively deplete levels of testosterone. As levels fall, “sensors” within the body are likely to up-regulate it’s production. So in earnest, I’m not sure about it’s effect on testosterone. (I welcome anyone with knowledge on this to comment)

I’m not sure what you’re saying .

It’s something like that you don’t believe the increase in estrogen levels from the alcohol’s effects on aromatase could provide feedback to the gland to decrease testosterone production ? Because if so , I would like to know the reason behind it, if you don’t mind. :)


Starting stats: 6.4" / 5.6" Current Stats: 7.4" / 5.8" Short term goal: 7" / 6" Long term goal: 8" / 6.5"

To put it more simply, I wasn’t sure if a high estrogen level would cause a lowering of plasma testosterone..

But, I have now found the answer having just checked my medical textbooks..
Estrogen acts in the same way as testosterone upon the hypothalmus.(reducing the signal to the pituitary)
Thereby, down-regulating the production of FSH and LH.and therefore reducing production of testosterone,

(The body thinks that having less testosterone, less will be converted to estrogen. As the body can only perceive high estrogen to be a result of excessive testosterone, thereby lowering it’s concentrations.

Therefore, chronic alcohol abusers will not only have high estrogen but low testosterone. Obesity also causes this.

I hope I have been clear this time :-S

JJ

Originally Posted by luckyjj

Therefore, chronic alcohol abusers will not only have high estrogen but low testosterone. Obesity also causes this.

I hope I have been clear this time :-S

JJ


That does explains why they get so fat

Aka “beer belly”


[9/2010] 7*6 NBPEL/8*6 BPEL pic's Not PEing anymore. (as of Nov '10)

[12/2011] 7.37" NBPEL * 6.4"

[1/2013] Current stats:7.37 NBPEL * 6.5.

Alcohol consumption will effect your EQ to varying degrees.

Two gasses of wine or scotch and my EQ is shot, but funnily enough my morning wood is like diamond.

Parasympathetic response possibly?

Originally Posted by luckyjj
To put it more simply, I wasn’t sure if a high estrogen level would cause a lowering of plasma testosterone..

But, I have now found the answer having just checked my medical textbooks..
Estrogen acts in the same way as testosterone upon the hypothalmus.(reducing the signal to the pituitary)
Thereby, down-regulating the production of FSH and LH.and therefore reducing production of testosterone,

(The body thinks that having less testosterone, less will be converted to estrogen. As the body can only perceive high estrogen to be a result of excessive testosterone, thereby lowering it’s concentrations.

Therefore, chronic alcohol abusers will not only have high estrogen but low testosterone. Obesity also causes this.

I hope I have been clear this time :-S

JJ

This is what I was expecting, you nailed it right. :)

Also we shouldn’t go on the other extreme saying that little fat on the body means maximum concentraition of testosterone. The brain has to be a in a “fed-state” to maximize concentrations of FSH,LH —-> testosterone.


Starting stats: 6.4" / 5.6" Current Stats: 7.4" / 5.8" Short term goal: 7" / 6" Long term goal: 8" / 6.5"


Last edited by alin : 10-04-2010 at .

Originally Posted by a-unit
Alcohol consumption will effect your EQ to varying degrees.

Two gasses of wine or scotch and my EQ is shot, but funnily enough my morning wood is like diamond.

Parasympathetic response possibly?

Hmm interesting

Wine should have a positive effect on vasodilatation which could mean improved erection.


Starting stats: 6.4" / 5.6" Current Stats: 7.4" / 5.8" Short term goal: 7" / 6" Long term goal: 8" / 6.5"

My wife likes a glass or two of wine in the evenings, but I find that I can`t do that every night, and I get headaches. We drink yellow-tail shiraz, which is pleasant and mixes well with most foods, but I find that If I have more than one glass, I`m done for the most part.

A week-end of sobriety and I`m ready to cut her in half.like this week-end for instance.

have anybody else noticed a smaller length and girth when trying to measure your penis after a jelqing session ,say, in the morning?? I mean— for example— if I jelq in the morning then in the afternoon or evening of the same day I measure my hard penis it is a bit (but a very very bit..say 2 millimetres…) smaller both length and girth.. does it happen to anybody else? I know it could sound crazy but I bet in this coomunity there is somebody that understand me :D


Start (october 2010) : BPEL 18,5 cm ; EL 17,5 cm ; MSEG 13,75 cm ,BEG 14,25 cm ;FL 12 cm ; FG 10,75 cm ; BPFSL 18,5 cm

3 months later ( January 2011) : BPEL 19 cm ; EL 18 cm ; MSEG 14 cm ; BEG 14,5 cm FL (hard to say if it grows due to size shifting of the soft state.. The same as before or bigger!) ; FG 11 cm ; BPFSL 19 cm***all hard sizes taken @ my hardest and doing a kegel***Goal: cementing a round 18 x 14 hard coupled with a good EQ.

Hey Slim, good info thanks for this post.

1) does that stuff you use to jelq dry fine or anything?
I need to be able to stealth PE and I can’t find a good jelq lube since I always need to rinse off after, hard w/ 2 room mates.

2) what EQ do you jelq at? I have trouble keeping mine below 80-90% when I’m slow jelqing

3) wait, you take nitrous oxide and like anti oxidants from fruit? Don’t those 2 cancel out? Idk much about it maybe I’m wrong

Originally Posted by Smegma
have anybody else noticed a smaller length and girth when trying to measure your penis after a jelqing session ,say, in the morning?? I mean— for example— if I jelq in the morning then in the afternoon or evening of the same day I measure my hard penis it is a bit (but a very very bit..say 2 millimetres…) smaller both length and girth.. does it happen to anybody else? I know it could sound crazy but I bet in this coomunity there is somebody that understand me :D


The more you put your penis under the microscope, the more you will notice fluctuations. This can lead to anxiety in some.

Many recommend taking a measurement once a week, and others do it once a month. If you take the reading on one of your off days, or the morning after an off day, then your EQ should be good and you will get a nice reading. Otherwise you may find yourself tapping the ruler and ranting that your wang was 0.000001 inches bigger when you measured it half an hour ago.:)

Originally Posted by stuzilla
The more you put your penis under the microscope, the more you will notice fluctuations. This can lead to anxiety in some.

Many recommend taking a measurement once a week, and others do it once a month. If you take the reading on one of your off days, or the morning after an off day, then your EQ should be good and you will get a nice reading. Otherwise you may find yourself tapping the ruler and ranting that your wang was 0.000001 inches bigger when you measured it half an hour ago.:)

lol thx! you are right!


Start (october 2010) : BPEL 18,5 cm ; EL 17,5 cm ; MSEG 13,75 cm ,BEG 14,25 cm ;FL 12 cm ; FG 10,75 cm ; BPFSL 18,5 cm

3 months later ( January 2011) : BPEL 19 cm ; EL 18 cm ; MSEG 14 cm ; BEG 14,5 cm FL (hard to say if it grows due to size shifting of the soft state.. The same as before or bigger!) ; FG 11 cm ; BPFSL 19 cm***all hard sizes taken @ my hardest and doing a kegel***Goal: cementing a round 18 x 14 hard coupled with a good EQ.

Originally Posted by stuzilla
Smegma - Please take your time and read Posting Rules.

I ve read it..what was my guilt excuse me??


Start (october 2010) : BPEL 18,5 cm ; EL 17,5 cm ; MSEG 13,75 cm ,BEG 14,25 cm ;FL 12 cm ; FG 10,75 cm ; BPFSL 18,5 cm

3 months later ( January 2011) : BPEL 19 cm ; EL 18 cm ; MSEG 14 cm ; BEG 14,5 cm FL (hard to say if it grows due to size shifting of the soft state.. The same as before or bigger!) ; FG 11 cm ; BPFSL 19 cm***all hard sizes taken @ my hardest and doing a kegel***Goal: cementing a round 18 x 14 hard coupled with a good EQ.

Hey SlimC24,
While your input was appreciated it is painfully obvious you have no scientific knowledge of bodybuilding or PE’ing. Unlike muscle hypertrophy your penis does not go through protein synthesis nor does it store glycogen, water, or ATP from creatine because it is comprised of smooth muscle and fiberous tissues not skeletal muscle. However, there is an important aspect of hormones testosterone and hgh, to simply name a few,that play a part in PE. Although, there are actually thousands of small hormonal triggered “switch on/off” processes that take place within the body that can play a small part in PE.

Now about your supplement recommendations…

“CellTech Hardcore Pro Series(Creatine/Amino Mix) - This is loaded with amino acids. L-Arginine is a producer of nitrous oxide through the body. This is an ingredient in boner meds. It keeps the blood pumping through ur veins, thats what you want for P.E. Also L-Tyrosine and other aminos help.”

I really encourage you to learn how to read labels better. Cell-tech is a supplement company that is notorious for the “supplement sprinkle” which allows them to get away with a poor quality product that only has it’s popularty due to it’s marketing gimmicks from steroid using bodybuilders and doctored results.
Instead of forking over $40-$80 for this product I suggest you make it yourself from dextrose,creatine monohydrate, and bcaas the first ingredients listed in the product as “a something matrix”. Don’t waste your money!

These “boner meds” you speak of do not contain nitrous oxide at all for example “Viagra works by blocking PDE5. When PDE5 is blocked, more of the chemicals responsible for the erection remain, so the muscles in the penis do not constrict. This allows blood to stay in the penis longer, which allows the man to maintain an erection.”-emedtv.com
The nitrous oxide is usually there in older men but an inballence of vital erectile hormones prevents Annan from achieving an erection.
http://health.howstuffworks.com/sex…ion/viagra3.htm

“Mens Multi-Vitamin - Good for hormones for men. Contains Zinc which produces natural testosterone which will fill ur balls up with sperm making them bigger and getting more blood to the penis. And the testosterone gives ur rock hard erections to knock your girlfriend out.”

This was just laughable at best. First and foremost zinc does effect the healthy production of testosterone but the amount you get in a multi vitamin of about 15mg is mostly blocked by copper,magnesium,iron, and calcium. Most likely your body will require more zinc because of the demand weightlifting and sweating take out. You can easily replenish this mineral with 25-50mg of zinc onban empty stomach 1-2hours after a meal and 1-2hours before your next.

“Do Not Take:
Yohimbe - It does increase blood flow to the penis and will work. But it will make you insane. I have tried it before it gives you panic attacks, which will not help you get laid. You can have a huge cock but if you’re a paranoid freak girls don’t want that. And after doing research on it, to much can KILL YOU. If it don’t kill you it will prolly give a stroke or some crazy shit.”

This is just a generalization of negative symptoms from yohimbe which insuspect you have had in the same day with celltech, the caffeine and yohimbe do not mix. Yohimbe is actually a common herb used to treat Ed in other countries. I take it everyday and I am prone to anxiety attacks which this herb does not trigger in me. Remember the rule of Chinese medicine, it may work but not for everybody all the time.

“The rest of what you take is up to you. Just do research on what you are taking. Make sure you feel right on the supplement. Remember just because it’s herbal does not mean it’s good for you or legit. Most herbal supplements are not FDA approved and they put extra ingredients not even listed so get a trusted brand. Do your research.”

Read your labels more clearly and you will find that pretty much everything but everything but multi vitamins have either a white box or something similar with the statement “these statements have not been evaluated by te FDA and shouldn’t be used to treat or cure any illnesses or diseases”. This includes muscletech’s celltech. This loophole in FDA regulation is the only reasoson the supplement industry is a miltibillion dollar industry and the only reason supplements get pulled off the shelves is due to a lawsuit after an lines or death from these untested product. Used effectively and with a little knowledge supplements will help in the long run.

Hope I have cleared up any confusion caused by your article. While your information presented here is not harmful it severly lacking the proper knowledge to back it up.

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