Newbie gains - Disheartened

Dear all

I’ve been at it for a bit more than two months, about. I noticed an instant change in my unit’s flaccid state - fuller, fleshier, nice and floppy and pendulous, and never turtling. Before, in its un-PE’d state, it used to turtle all the time, and I guess I’m a shower more than anything else, so that bothered me.

Anyway, in the first few weeks I was ecstatic at the prospect of growing what I thought could never be grown, plus, apparently seeing it happen right before my eyes.

However, lately I’ve started to have doubts. I’ve read thoughtfulgold and others’ comments about newbie gains - most say it’s just improved blood flow, so basically your unit is at its natural best, no more, no less. In my case, I seemed to gain immediately in flaccid girth especially, and also length. Thoughtfulgold says newbie gains are “just improvements in EQ” - well, I’m on a nofap regime, so rarely have full erections, and I avoid playing with it, because I don’t want it to get the wrong idea, if you know what I mean.

I have noticed this though, that I have various positive indicators, for example far more frequent spontaneous wood, especially during the night, but those erections are not particularly impressive.

Bottom line is this - I’m following my version of the newbie routine, art the moment 120 jelqs in the evening followed by some manual stretching. Lately I’ve discovered that I can stretch my unit under my thigh and sit on it and stretch it for more extended periods while I watch tv or am online. But lately, one, I’ve been noticing it turtling again, to my great distress, and also am coming to the conclusion that there hasn’t been any real growth. I did measure a couple of weeks back, and there was no change since the beginning.

I’d appreciate any comments or perspective or motivation. I’m not giving up, but I am feeling pretty disheartened at the moment.

Many thanks.

Two months time simply isn’t enough for true growth. Secondly if you’re turtling, back off of your intensity. You may even want to take 2-3 days off.

Thanks Titleist. How long do you think is reasonable?

Titeist is right and I also agree with those who say in the beginning it’s improved EQ and blood flow. Chill out on measuring and worrying about growth, I’m at this 2.5 years and I’m now starting to hit goals. Give it time, be patient but also persevere. Don’t give up because 2 months in your not gaining that’s absurd. Like I said 2.5 years in and I’m hitting goals, that’s patience and perseverance.

Thank you too kingscounty

Resume PE when you’re dick is ready, not when you say it’s ready. There’s some truth to the statement a penis has a mind of its own.

Ever notice how you can’t command it to get erect or not get erect?

This takes a loooong time. Don’t worry in about 2 years you will be walking around in big dick Nirvana.

Patience is the biggest thing when you’re first starting out. It’ll seem like you’re walking in circles doing the same thing over and over with little to no yield but it’s a long (no pun intended) process. Make sure to stick with it but to also allow your body to recover. It’s very easy for people to want to over exert themselves because they think that the more they do the sooner they’ll see results, but it’s all about efficiency.

Also something I’ve picked up recently is working out rest weeks and deconditioning breaks. For example if you have a 2-on-1-off schedule you would do that for 3 weeks, and then take a whole week off. Then once you’ve done that 4 week cycle 2 or 3 times (3 weeks of 2-off-1-on then 1 week completely off) take an entire month off. It might seem counter-intuitive but sometimes less is more, I’ve found that giving my body more time to recover has always yielded better results for me.

But most importantly just take it slow and figure out what works best for you.

Also, please drink more water. I almost guarantee your recovery will be improved if you drink a LOT more water. I haven’t really turtled since I started drinking ~a half gallon of water a day minimum.