newbie buying extender or pump

I’m here referring to extenders and air pumps and bathmate etc.

What’s the REAL reason why a newbie (currently doing the newbie routine faithfully) should not buy such tools?

Money?

If we eliminate the money problem, is it then suddenly a good choice?

Or it doesn’t give MUCH more gain than using hands?

Or for sure it gives NO additional gain compared to using hands?

Or even, it might likely cause problems?

You see, I have a birthday coming up and thought it would be kind of sexy to ask my GF to buy a PE tool for me. :-)

More risks of injury and overwork, which means lower odds to have gains. A PE tool for a newbie could be a good fitted metal cock ring, you can edge with it.

I don’t know if I completely agree that Newbies should not buy equipment. Damage can occur regardless of manual exercise or equipment used. What I believe is that newbies must understand that regardless of doing manual exercises or using equipment, it takes time, a LOT of time. You must have realistic expectations, and never exceed safe levels, thinking you’ll gain faster. It takes time to learn one’s body. Read, Read, Read and learn from others’ experiences, and mistakes!! With that spoken, I do concede that most newbies should hold off on a pump until after they’ve gained some experience jelqing, and learning their limits. If a newbie can always (100% of the time) keep pressure within very safe levels, and very slowly over time adjust pressure to their own optimal safe levels, I don’t see a problem with that. The pump can generate huge amounts of pressure & it’s critical not to exceed safe levels. If you jelq too aggressively, and force too much blood into the shaft, that can also cause injury. So just be aware of that too and be patient.

I believe the extender is quite safe because it contains protective tension springs. I have seen gains, abeit slow. I’ve gained a good 1/2 inch, but it took about 15 months, basically took over 1,000 hours.

Last but not least, absolutely keep a log to track your exercises. Measure every 2-3 months, and log your measurements. I just use an excel spreadsheet. Set realistic goals. Don’t get discouraged. Go back to drawing board, read, ask questions, and modify your routine if you’re not getting any results. It could be the smallest thing you’re not doing right that could limit your gains.

I wish you the best!!

I think some of the greatest value in the newbie routine isn’t just the gains, but getting accommodating with all the feelings and techniques associated with PE. Through jelqing, you can understand how “tough” your penis is and how much pressure you can handle: stretching helps you understand the different feelings associated with using certain angles and intensity, not to mention grip, which helps you with any sort of stretching exercise down the road.

I have no experience extending (yet) but if I could go back, yeah, maybe I’d buy an extended early on, to use in conjunction with the newbie routine. Its low tension and quantifiable. However, I think jelqing and manual stretching and invaluable and should be core tenants of your routine.

And yes: measure and log. Measure base girth, mid shaft girth, glans girth. Measure bone pressed (and really press it in) erect length, measure bone pressed flaccid stretched length. Measuring flaccid girth and non bone pressed length/girth is tricky, but if you find a way to do it consistently, then do it. Also make sure your ruler is parallel to the ground/perpendicular to your body. If you angle up, you will measure shorter; angle down and you measure longer.

Instead of trying to measure my NBPEL, I am going to find a good way to measure my fat pad, and then just subtract that from BPEL.

Sorry, bit of a newb tangent I just went off on :P

You make some excellent points, and for the most part I agree with you. I would certainly make the newbie exercises the core routine, and supplement equipment as needed.