New one -- hiring PE trainer for motivation

Your dick will be so conditioned after all that that the only thing that could help is at least 3 months off. After that, start very, very slowly, because once you have conditioned to a certain level, you will condition back up to it again very fast. Your window for gains before another decon break would be small.

Drkegels

Anger managment may be a good start.

How long should I wait though? I was on basically that same shit (from another 2 sites’ newbie routines) for 8 weeks each and this was several years ago. I did the same shit again with the newbie routine from a third site about a year ago for months without gains. Shit’s pissing me off because 5 years late into this damn thing I’m still being suggested to do a newbie routine. And then when I flip out after spending so much time and effort, I figure people aren’t helping because there ain’t shit in it for them. I guess there’s no way around searching all boards and compiling the most exhaustive list of exercises there is, buying the 4-5 top devices and trying them all before I call it total quits and go under the knife.

Oh, and one other thing.. Takes me for fucking ever to wait to a point I can even stretch too, as I can’t get flaccid enough or even stay flaccid through the entire stretch sometimes too.. And the few times I’m tired and accidentally let it get hard while stretching, it gets painful. Lord knows what’ll happen if I get hard while I’m in a hanger. I have basic problems that make it tough enough already to follow the routines, when I focus mad mad time & energy to go through and do the routine correctly .. Every day.. And then don’t gain, it’s killer.

8 weeks and then you ramped up the exercises? How consistent were you? 8 weeks of steady exercises, or 8 weeks of bullshit off and on, do some crazy shit every now and then, fuck it this shit ain’t going to work for me because I’m “special?

Maybe you would be better off working on your head first. Get that anger shit handled and then give PE a try.

8 weeks of the newbie routine either 5 days a week or 6 — no fucking bullshit. Trust me, when I’m given a routine and I believe it will work (which I very much fucking did at first) I make sure I do it. Because I know there’s going to be serious damage (to my head and to the wall, as it has) if shit doesn’t work — so I do everything in my power to make it work. The second go around, I was even more determined and did it EVERY fucking day until at the end of 8 weeks I could’ve almost swore I got a bit smaller (was 6 BP at some point in between and saw myself consistently measure down to 5.75 by the end).

That shit’s backwards. I didn’t have an anger problem before PE — more specifically, until recently when I realized I’m running out of non-surgical options.

I don’t. You are of a perfectly normal size now. If you are to have success with PE, your motivation will come from within, not from outside. No one can impose or enforce it upon you.

I’m calling you on your BS now, and for free. PE because it’s what you want to do badly enough to stick with it, or don’t. The choice is yours.

Oh, so now PE is the cause of your anger. Well, then you had best stop all PE because you sound like it is only doing you harm. Fix the anger, then maybe try PE again.

Didn’t say PE is or was causing me anger.. It’s PE not working that causes it.

Maybe your anger is what is causing the PE not to work? Maybe you are trying too hard and getting frustrated, which is increasing your anger and diminishing your ability to effectively PE?

Hey, I’ve been a member of thunders place for a few years and have just decided to really start doing PE. I have noticed over the years that if one trains to hard without giving themselves a break Drkegels, more than likely you are going to have some very negative PI’s (shrinkage, no gains, etc. That you have mentioned.) It would probably be a good idea to give your dick a breather every now and then, may help with your gains as well.

Dr. Kegels, do what you want - it’s your dick - but I wouldn’t let a doctor with a knife loose on my unconscious body if I had a normal size dick - which you do. Too much downside potential there.

CloudXii: Good point. Sometimes less is more.

“Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.” - Yoda

Control your anger, you must. Grow your penis, you will.

DrKegels I’m not an experienced PEer by any means but I’ve noticed that my penis grows during breaks and rarely (if ever) while I’m exercising. It seems the exercises set up the parameters for growth and the growth takes place during the breaks. I’d recommend a 2-week break and then slowly and gently exercising, possibly with low-level stretching such as an ads or extender.

How’s your EQ? Any negative PIs?

Does that offer of 5K still stand? Because I think I can help you with your problems.

But are you willing to relocate until you achieve your goals?

1. See I live in Detroit. Detroit has the largest Arabic population outside of the Middle East. You’ll be welcomed with open arms around here. There’s also 2 distinct cities (suburbs) that are almost 100% entirely Arabic. You will have no fear of leaving the house, for the reasons you mentioned, around here.
Arabic people, stores, culture, and even (if you’re Muslim) public calls to prayer.

2. We can work on the attitude thing. Besides, attitude is a good thing. We just need to get it channeled properly. Then we can get you laid also, without having to pay to play. But we have that too.

3. Yes I will stick with you, offer advice, positive encouragement, and PE related moral support. The rest of my morals are sometimes called to question. But I’ll stick with you, because dammit I need that money. Just don’t ask me to look at or touch your dick though. Unless of course you feel the need to reward our efforts by splurging for a couple of high class escorts. After all, we wil have to check your progress somehow. I may inadvertently view something then, but I’m still not going to touch it.

4. Now I’m a good guy at heart. The guys I hang with are good people too. Genuine. like most guys, they’ve all got pussy on the brain 24/7. You’ll fit right in. We’ll get a crew together and we can all head over to Home Depot together.

So there’s my offer. Lots of motels in my area too. You might enjoy staying there, as the local escorts are just starting to discover them too.

Damn, 2 pages and no one tried to grab that 5k yet?
You guys really are thinking with … er um … ABOUT your dicks.

If not the size of your penis, it would be something else. And quit with the language, it doesn’t accomplish anything and is ignorant and irritating.