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Linear Newbie Routine

Originally Posted by memento
mixmix,

Rather than counting the number of jelqs and increasing it rapidly, work on each stroke making sure it’s maximally effective and increase strokes as needed.

Your rest days are inconsistent. I’m not sure I have sufficient proof for this point but PE seems cumulative between rest days, so you work to the point where each day in a series feels like it’s working you slightly harder and then you rest. We often talk about decreasing rest days or having more on days in a row to increase the work on the penis. If your rest days are inconsistent, then you will find this difficult to gauge and even if you do the same work on your on days, it will have a different effect.

So my tips would be work on technique rather than adding more and be incredibly consistent, so that you know when you need to change.

Actually I have been doing the jelqs at prety much top quality….Cant seem to make them much better…One thing though is that I do prefer to jelq at about 80 percent erection, otherwise I dont get a full pump effect. Also I kegel every now and again just before applying the grip at the base of the penis, for the same reason.
I will keep at 10 minutes stretching, and 160 jelqs for another month or so then.

I’m actually trying something like this now. I do one day on and one day off and I do 110 wet jelqs. I warm up 5 minutes before and after and I’m thinking about using a heating pad on my off days.

I know it seems light but I don’t want much. I just want .25 inch both ways. That would make me 6 5/8 x 5.25 That’s perfect for a man like me

Just returned to PE and my Thunders Place brothers, and always come back to the Newbie Routine part and start all over again. After a break of nearly 8 months I am encouraged to see the gains I made are still just about there, maybe a touch under, but as soon as you start again the pick up rate of the jelqing technique seems to bolster the stats very quickly. I think regular jelqing is just healthy for general plumping up and day to day hang. It feel great to be back; forever a Newbie? I wonder, just need to be determined and stick to it this time. Target is a 7 BPEL and 5.25 EG, starting from 6.5 and 5. Anything over that will be amazing! Off to jelq!

Originally Posted by Bryce979
I’m actually trying something like this now. I do one day on and one day off and I do 110 wet jelqs. I warm up 5 minutes before and after and I’m thinking about using a heating pad on my off days.

I know it seems light but I don’t want much. I just want .25 inch both ways. That would make me 6 5/8 x 5.25 That’s perfect for a man like me


How long have you been on the routine? Made any gains yet?

Originally Posted by Kingken

Just returned to PE and my Thunders Place brothers, and always come back to the Newbie Routine part and start all over again. After a break of nearly 8 months I am encouraged to see the gains I made are still just about there, maybe a touch under, but as soon as you start again the pick up rate of the jelqing technique seems to bolster the stats very quickly. I think regular jelqing is just healthy for general plumping up and day to day hang. It feel great to be back; forever a Newbie? I wonder, just need to be determined and stick to it this time. Target is a 7 BPEL and 5.25 EG, starting from 6.5 and 5. Anything over that will be amazing! Off to jelq!

How long did it take to get those gains and how much did you you gain? Using which PE methods? If I can get gains while using the wet jelq and stretching alone then I will stick to just those.

Originally Posted by bill10
It’s too early. Keep going.

Evaluate between the end of the 3rd and 4th month of it.

I am going to continue to 4 months as you suggested, however I did notice on another thread(Greencrabs progress report and PE record) you saying a decon break every 5 or 6 weeks is good, or proportionate to the work Ive done.
So I should decon or not? And proportionate to the amount of jelqs/time of sessions, or proportionate to the amount of days/weeks/months Ive been doing the routine?
Curious to know why you suggest I continue the routine and not take a decon like you suggested to Greencrab on the other thread…

You know what? It may be a good idea.

Stop for a week and then continue with the routine.

I will clarify that what I meant was to evaluate a routine after you are on it for at least 4 months. That is you can’t say that a routine is not effective while you are on it less than 4 months IMO, including some decon breaks if you like taking them.

Better now?

Breaks should be IMO proportionate to the work that has been done. Think of it as a common muscle training program. If you are on a specific program in the gym, say for 12 weeks, then you probably want to take the two next weeks or month off, for resting. So decon break must be proportionate to the time invested on a routine. The break must be long enough to allow tissue regeneration and healing but not long enough to put you back where you started.

I have found that for me a week off every 6 weeks worked well. You, for example may want to try 4 weeks on and one off or 8 weeks on and 15 days off etc. So, how are you going to be sure that the break is proportionate to the work you have done? You can be conservative. For example, at first one week off every 6 on, sa I have suggested. Observe what will happen. If you see some gains, then that’s it. If you don’t, the next time try 6 weeks on 2 weeks off etc… In time you will know. Your body will show you the right way.

I don’t know if this makes any sense to you. I can’t explain it better.


BPEL 7 EG 5.5 NBPEL 6.5 Flaccid length 4.5. Started Jan 2015 at bpel 6.5 nbpel 6.0 and eg 5.2 flaccid length was 3.5

I have reached my goal. At least for now.


Last edited by bill10 : 04-16-2016 at .

Very clear, thanks very much! I dont know why, but I just feel that a decon break is what I need…so Ive been working for 3 and a half months, proportionatly that would make say 2 week decon? or more? or as you said, start with one week and see? I’m still allowed sex while on decon I hope?!?


Last edited by mixmix : 04-17-2016 at .

Originally Posted by mixmix

I’m still allowed sex while on decon I hope?!?

Yes. Sex is fine.

In my opinion a ‘decon’ break should be more than 6 months; a year is better! Unless you’ve been doing heavy clamping or similar, you shouldn’t need that.

But a ‘rest’ break of 1-2 weeks every 6 to 8 weeks is a good idea. I usually take a week off every 6 weeks or so.


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Ok in a week or two, I will get back to the routine then, which I have now stabilized at 10 minutes stretching and 150 Jelqs. ( 10 minutes stretch is 2min30 in four directions )


January 2016 7.3 BPEL ( 18.6cm ) / 5.3 EG ( 13.7cm )

Good. Take the one week first, see how penis feels and then decide if you will take a second one or go back to the routine.

You will see that it will be easy to judge it. If it FEELS like you need more rest, take it, if not start PE again.


BPEL 7 EG 5.5 NBPEL 6.5 Flaccid length 4.5. Started Jan 2015 at bpel 6.5 nbpel 6.0 and eg 5.2 flaccid length was 3.5

I have reached my goal. At least for now.

Originally Posted by bill10
Good. Take the one week first, see how penis feels and then decide if you will take a second one or go back to the routine.

You will see that it will be easy to judge it. If it FEELS like you need more rest, take it, if not start PE again.

My flaccid size seems smaller this week, strangely. I notice when I go for a pee. But in general, I have periods of time where it is small and others when it is bigger, which I think is to do with my work. ( If I am doing a job that neededs me concentrated 100% my penis will shrink, whereas if I have the mind liberty of thinking about this and the other I tend to have fuller flaccids. ( I did get a got strong erection the other day, and measured, and seemed as if I could have gained a few millimeters, but again that could just be because I was so hard, haha! )

Having a small flaccid, do you think is more of a sign to extend the break to 2 weeks? Or nothing to do with it?

I do like to get erections throughout the day, but it just doesnt happen unless I think of something that arrouses me, which I can only do when I have a free mind….I like to think that it might help the penis heal itself bigger also. But while on this small “decon” break, should I be trying to do so, or more just let things be?


Last edited by mixmix : 04-20-2016 at .

I just measured, and it seems those gains are real. Feels good! Supposing those (few millimeters) gains have happened during my rest period, which I started 5 days ago, I dont want to go back to the routine too suddenly, so as to stop the gains from coming…so maybe 2 weeks is better, measuring every few days. No girth gains though. So I wonder if those gains come from jelqing or from stretching…. Seems that Ive gone from 18.4cm to 18.9cm BPEL in a week…Hope its not just EQ


January 2016 7.3 BPEL ( 18.6cm ) / 5.3 EG ( 13.7cm )

Yeah…it’s not probably.

Take 2 weeks. You won’t likely lose any gains. But if you do, then you will have learned exactly how much time your decon breaks should take..

Shrinking flaccid has nothing to do with it. Flaccid length changes a lot during the day.


BPEL 7 EG 5.5 NBPEL 6.5 Flaccid length 4.5. Started Jan 2015 at bpel 6.5 nbpel 6.0 and eg 5.2 flaccid length was 3.5

I have reached my goal. At least for now.

I think it was just good EQ actually. I’d got my hopes up for a day then haha…


January 2016 7.3 BPEL ( 18.6cm ) / 5.3 EG ( 13.7cm )

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