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Negative PI from edging

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Someone with medical knowledge should clear this up. Tissue death happens when no, or very little freshly oxygenated blood is allowed into the tissue. Edging is simply masturbating to keep an erection, without cumming. Unless your clamped while edging, how does excessive edging kill tissue Bluray?

We all have to be careful about spreading info without it being factual. I can edge, and/or have sex for hours, without losing erections, and my eq is great.

Normal erections won’t allow tissue death. Its only abnormal things that can push an erection to the point of damage…medications, pathology, disease, clamps etc. If you are just edging, your dick will eventually exhaust itself and go down, you don’t have to worry.

Besides, I think those Cialis warnings about seeking medical help if the erection lasts more than 4 hours, is for the woman! :)

Originally Posted by CubanB
For me, if I edge for 30 mins I am fine.

If I edge for 30 mins and ejaculate at the end of it, I’m getting close to the borderline or at the edge of the cliff.

If I edge for 60 mins and ejaculate at the end of it, I just gave my unit a hammering and will have decreased EQ next day.

Doing this repeatedly, would flush EQ down the toilet. Had some small problems about a month about, but it’s been okay the last 3 weeks. Learn your limits, then stay away from them. Everyone’s limit is different.

This is combined with PE, without PE it might be different, who knows.

I often “balloon” after my PE sessions. Basically, I edge and then go over into ballooning for about 5 to ten minutes. I think it helps “even” out the work I’ve done in jelqing. (due to the extra expansion I get from it)
This has been argued long and hard. (terrible pun ;) ) However, I think edging and ballooning in moderation are good for gains, and I have never had a negative PI as a result.


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Actually I should be refering to what I do as ‘BALLOONING not edging’ as I don’t ejaculate afterwards.

D’uh!

Silly me.


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I thought edging was just masturbating until just before the PONR, easing off and then doing it a few more times. Whereas ballooning had a technique towards it and rarely lead to coming near ejaculation?


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Oh well,in that case I was edging all along then.

Sorry for the confusion


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Some of you are talking about being a less is more and a more is more guy.. How do you come about knowing this? What tells you more is more?


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Sparkyx’s on the case again!!!

I knew I was a ‘more is more’ when I upped my PE workout duration and intensity about month ago & saw my gains jump through the roof.

That told me all I needed to know.


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Originally Posted by kooljohn
Sparkyx’s on the case again!!!

I knew I was a ‘more is more’ when I upped my PE workout duration and intensity about month ago & saw my gains jump through the roof.

That told me all I needed to know.

That’s great, and congrats!

That is why I wrote the Is LESS more, or is MORE more? thread! I would read guys who had gains from ridiculously short workouts, and guys that were gaining from ridiculously long workouts, and both sides really sounded offended that anyone would claim any other way was actually working! Really, a real pissy tone towards the other camp. (reminds me of religion and politics! :( )

I thought, this is ridiculous! Its obvious that both are getting results, lets just once and for all acknowledge that there is a wide spectrum of stimulation that works, and there is obviously a broad range of physiologic responses to that stimulation. The real trick is to quickly figure out which camp you are in… and DO THAT!

Like I had said, I have tried for years to fit in the “more is more” camp, because quite frankly, I love to do things like clamping and pumping! I need to exert HUGE amounts of self control to NOT do PE for long periods of time, and stick with my short routine, I WISH I could productively pump and clamp for an hour a day, but I can’t! Its only when this has finally sunk through my thick head AND I use enough discipline to keep to my routine that I finally started to make some gains. (still not so great on the discipline! :) )


Last edited by sparkyx : 04-07-2009 at .

Originally Posted by hopeful2hanglow
Someone with medical knowledge should clear this up. Tissue death happens when no, or very little freshly oxygenated blood is allowed into the tissue. Edging is simply masturbating to keep an erection, without cumming. Unless your clamped while edging, how does excessive edging kill tissue Bluray?

We all have to be careful about spreading info without it being factual. I can edge, and/or have sex for hours, without losing erections, and my eq is great.

This is a very complex issue. I am not sure if i want to even explain it as it will take a bit of time.

It doesn’t kill tissue to be exact. I asked my medical student buddy this question. He stated that priapism is actually a reduced flow because the erection cuts off circulation from the deep dorsal vein. Blood gets trapped and the circulation isn’t dynamic. There is still circulation but it is reduced, that’s how blood fills the organ.

However i don’t think this reduced flow is the main concern, neither is tissue death by ischemia. According to my friend, the main concerns are twofold. One, it may rupture the tunica albuginea, causing permanent erectile dysfunction. Two, when blood flow is reduced, risk of clotting may increase. Erections lasting two hours may induce blood clots and etc. Which in turn may clot the vein and cause further trapping of blood in the organ.

Finally to my understanding, priapism from the cialis/viagra commercials are a concern because it may reveal an underlying condition, such as nerve damage, and also because it can’t be controlled. Which is different from edging and frequent erections. Edging seems to me promotes more blood flow to the organ. Also i think the reason that some thing edging is bad for you or has negative PI is the fact that when you jerk it, the motion also puts some strain on the organ. So constant jerking may cause soreness because you are applying alot of friction from the outside.

Finally question to those who claim to have had sex for hours at a time. Your erection DOESN’T LAST FOR HOURS? Does it? Does it go down for like a minute and then you get it up again? Can anyone maintain really high erection without going flaccid at all for more than 60 minutes?

When i Jerk it for a long time i often take break and my erection quality goes from like a 9 to a 3. I don’t ever recall being able to keep it constantly hard for like 2 hours without some period of rest and go flaccid

Also as regards to PE. i think semi erect/almost flaccid is best because it promotes the best dynamic blood flow through the organ.

PS. To mods, I am not a doctor yet, i am currently studying for the MCAT. Yet, I do have an abudant knowledge of human physiology. Can i get a custom title called “resident physician”? :) I was thinking about starting a thread where we can discuss physiology and such.


Last edited by dchz : 04-12-2009 at .

Sorry for my ignorance. Could someone briefly explain to me what the procedure for edging this please.

That’s some great information DCHZ, I never entertained thoughts about the clotting effect that may take place.

If you edge, whether it be masturbation, or sex, eventually the length of time a person can maintain a hard erection increases. I know this from personal experience. The only time I have trouble maintaining a steel hard erection, is when I’m not in it mentally. The only side effect I find from this is when I have the urge to urinate, and ignore it and keep going. I find it hard to open up the flood gates, so to speak. Also I find the urge to urinate continues on for hours after such incidents.

So I don’t go for hours anymore, but I know I can, and occasionally do. I’m not trying to show off or anything, just stating it is very possible, yet time consuming to build up to such times.

What are your thoughts on the constant urge to urinate afterward? Is this prostate related, and/or dangerous possible down the road?

Originally Posted by hopeful2hanglow
What are your thoughts on the constant urge to urinate afterward? Is this prostate related, and/or dangerous possible down the road?

Hmmm, I think it’s because you prevent yourself from urinating while edging, so afterwards your bladder is already full of urine and it needs to expel most of the collected urine that is supposed to be expelled earlier. But because it’s too much, you cannot empty your bladder completely the first time you pee. So, the urge will continue until the bladder is drained of water to be urinated.

This is just my opinion but like you, I do edging for an hour or so most of the time and never do I experience this. Maybe it’s different from person to person. Try not to drink water right before you edge and see if that would help.

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