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Need advice from a experienced PE'er

Need advice from a experienced PE'er

Hi

I’ve hardly had any gains the last 5 months. I have tried to change my methods but still nothing. Right now Im doing a girth program in the morgning with 5 mins of jelqing as a warmup, 20 mins of clamping, and the 5 more mins of jelqing. I am also doing a length program in the evenings with 3x10 min of manual stretching, with warmups in between sets.

What should I do to start gaining again? Should I take some time off or should I keep pushing myself even harder?

Thanks for any good advice!

Harder, No. Are you doing this routine every day? What were your starting stats? Have you gained in the past and now plateaued? Do you supplement and take rest days? Do you pre-warm/post warm? What type of jelqs as in wet/dry, stroke tempo, grip firm/light? This kind of info will help us to help you better. I see that you have been a member for some time, so are you simply at a plateau that you need to break through?


Starting stats NBPEL 6" x EG 4.125" --> Mar 2008 NBPEL 7" x EG 5.25" Current Stats 7" NBPEL x 5.75" EG (Post 1st Round PMMA)

My noose style extender modification

My jelq routine

Time off may be needed.


Speak softly carry a big dick, I'm mean stick!

What is your EQ like? Has it improved? Has it diminished? This +PI’s is something that I personally have been able to use to stay in the race


Starting stats NBPEL 6" x EG 4.125" --> Mar 2008 NBPEL 7" x EG 5.25" Current Stats 7" NBPEL x 5.75" EG (Post 1st Round PMMA)

My noose style extender modification

My jelq routine

Originally Posted by kingpole
Time off may be needed.

But wont time off make me loose my gains, or would it make gaining easier when I start again?

@Richard

I am doing this routine 5-6 days a week. In the mornings I do wet jelqs as a warmup, then one 20 min clamping pass, and then 5 min more jelqing to get the blood flow back. I try to do some bending and stuff to add some extra pressure while clamping. I use three clamps at the base. In the evenings I first warmup by pressing a hot waterbottle against my stuff for 10 min, then I stretch for 10 min, changing direction every 1-2 min. And then I repeat that three times.

Originally Posted by Photon

But wont time off make me loose my gains, or would it make gaining easier when I start again?

So you gained before these 5 months? If so, the last 5 months can be considered as gain cementing periode. So your gains should be now cemented, and you can take a break without loosing a lot of your gains. And if you do loose, the gains will come back pretty fast after resuming.

Oh, I like good team-work!

I have taken a few weeks off at a time to de-condition my cock. Sometimes your cock will build up resistance like any other body part. If you have already tried increase intensity and that doesn’t work then take time off. Even if you lose some gains they will come right back.

Originally Posted by marinera

Oh, I like good team-work!

;) .

Originally Posted by Photon
Hi

I’ve hardly had any gains the last 5 months. I have tried to change my methods but still nothing. Right now I’m doing a girth program in the morgning with 5 mins of jelqing as a warmup, 20 mins of clamping, and the 5 more mins of jelqing. I am also doing a length program in the evenings with 3x10 min of manual stretching, with warmups in between sets.

What should I do to start gaining again? Should I take some time off or should I keep pushing myself even harder?

Thanks for any good advice!

I am doing this routine 5-6 days a week. In the mornings I do wet jelqs as a warmup, then one 20 min clamping pass, and then 5 min more jelqing to get the blood flow back. I try to do some bending and stuff to add some extra pressure while clamping. I use three clamps at the base. In the evenings I first warmup by pressing a hot waterbottle against my stuff for 10 min, then I stretch for 10 min, changing direction every 1-2 min. And then I repeat that three times.

Let me first say that I believe that you are over-training. I know that alot of guys use some really extensive split-routine PE schedules, but you’re jelqing and clamping 30 minutes a day and stretching 30 minutes a day, 5-6 days per week, to me there’s no rest there.

My belief system lies around the damage/stress then rest/recovery theories. We grow when we rest. Overtraining is more detrimental to growth, hampers recovery and invites injury or poor EQ. If you have cemented gains in place, then take a week or two off to let your body rest and recover. Start back with a slower approach. The following, is a schedule and program that I have used and it worked quite well for me:

1. I pre warm for 3-5 minutes or so in water that is hot enough that I can just stand it.More than just warm in other words,to stimulate blood flow to the max.

2. I perform wet jelq then for 15 -20 minutes or so (2-4 seconds per movement), depending on comfort. I use a relatively firm grip and maintain pressure at all times.One hand following (starting) as the first is reaching the glans (ending).

3. I jelq at 20-60% erect.If I go over to say 70%.I will pause and allow it to drop back to around 20-40% then start up again.

4. About every 10-20 jelqs or so, I will keep my grip at the glans, grip at the base at the same time and keggle in blood and push each toward each other.Not moving the grips,just pressuring or “ballooning” the mid-shaft.I may even do some bends in this position before resuming the 2-4 second jelq again. (With great caution due to pressure)

5. 5-10 minutes in the hot bath or warm soaking after the jelq session.

6. I use enough lube to be comfortable. If it begins to lessen I add a drop of water and slick it again.

7. I take a multi-vitamin, L-Arginine and ginko every day.

8. I used to wear an ADS during the period that I was jelqing, but I don’t really know that it contributed to my gains much (perhaps healing micro-tears in an extended state). My jelq sessions were like 3-4 days per week (basically every other day). I believe that there should be ample rest periods between sessions. Over working will only lead to reduced gains, frustration, loss of quality time and possibly injury.

I usually judge my “being on the right track” in my routine by my erection quality.

I jelq every other to every third day. Everyone reacts differently, to different stimuli, but overtraining is worse than not training enough. Someone mentioned this already, but I will reiterate, the body attenuates quickly to routine. This change up, I believe, will do you good. You really should change up a bit every six weeks or so, such as, tempo, add a minute to an exercise, do it on off days, etc. Perhaps utilize a (traction) ADS like size genetics every day for 4 hours or so and do the jelq session above every other day. Traction allows you to still work on length, but also accentuate girth at the same time. Also, supplement for good oxygen and nutrient rich blood flow. This is just my .02

I wish you well, but I think you need a decon, and then a much more reasonable schedule when you return to PE’ing.


Starting stats NBPEL 6" x EG 4.125" --> Mar 2008 NBPEL 7" x EG 5.25" Current Stats 7" NBPEL x 5.75" EG (Post 1st Round PMMA)

My noose style extender modification

My jelq routine

Awesome post Richard, very informative. Those are very wise words that I myself will take into careful consideration as I pursue my PE goals. I just had a few questions maybe you could help me out with:

1) When you first began this routine, how many minutes of jelqing did you start with?
2) Did you include these balloon squeezes from the very start?
3) For a newb who is already over trained and about to take a decon break…what would you recommend starting back up with? jelqs only/Jelqs+Squeezes/jelqs +ads..etc
4) What kind of lube do you use?! haha

Thanks man, your info was really helpful!

Yes, really good post richard. I can’t see stretches, however; you are not a fan of them?

Originally Posted by budz
Awesome post Richard, very informative. Those are very wise words that I myself will take into careful consideration as I pursue my PE goals. I just had a few questions maybe you could help me out with:

1) When you first began this routine, how many minutes of jelqing did you start with?
2) Did you include these balloon squeezes from the very start?
3) For a newb who is already over trained and about to take a decon break.what would you recommend starting back up with? Jelqs only/Jelqs+Squeezes/jelqs +ads.etc
4) What kind of lube do you use?! Haha

Thanks man, your info was really helpful!

1. Started with around 10-20 minutes depending on feel.
2. No, I started to incorporate them around the 2 month mark.
3. I love the (traction) ADS, not a uni-directional stretcher. I think light to moderate traction force applies expansion of tissues in all directions rather than just one, this is advantageous to healing tears under gentle stretch and promotes girth gains better.
4. I buy lube at Wal-mart. It is a water based knock off of KY and is considerably cheaper!

Thanks for the kind words and good luck.


Starting stats NBPEL 6" x EG 4.125" --> Mar 2008 NBPEL 7" x EG 5.25" Current Stats 7" NBPEL x 5.75" EG (Post 1st Round PMMA)

My noose style extender modification

My jelq routine

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