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Myths and false ideas in PE

Originally Posted by cervixhunter
6. Is that real? Women discussing their big dick experience!

It’s not directly related to PE, but often appearing in different threads on the Forum: a group of women discussing their big dick experience (8, 9, 10”). If we are talking about a team of porn actresses chatting, I have no further comments. But if it happens to be average girls, then it’s a big bulshi*!
I’ll prove that with a little math. Let’s agree on the following terms:

1. A “big dick” is 7.5”+. I don’t have to go only for huge dicks to prove my point.
2. The frequency of dicks of 7.5” and larger is around 3%. This value may not be very accurate, but it does not matter much if it’s 5%, or 2%. Let’s stick to 3%.
3. The average number of sex partners for a woman along her lifetime is 8.6 (USA statistics). Let’s round it up to 9.

Now let’s compute the odds for an average woman to meet a single “big dick” (7.5”+) among the 9 partners in her life. From the point of view of probabilities, each guy is an independent event (except the case of her fucking 9 twin brothers). The average woman has 9 trials. We have to apply the formula for the binomial distribution probability:

Odds = C(N, M) * p^M * (1 — p)^(N-M)

Where
P = the probability of an individual event (in our case the 3%)
M = the number of favorable cases (we set for 1 single case of big dick)
N = the number of trials (that is 9)
C(…) = combinations (you should have learnt about it ;) )

I’ve done the simple computation and got a probability of P1 = 21% that an average woman meets exactly one big dick in her lifetime.
I also did the calculus to see the odds for that woman to encounter two big dicks in her life. I got P2 = 2.6%. The odds to meet three big dicks is P3 = 0.5%. Odds for encountering more big dicks are so small that don’t count at all.
We can conclude that our average woman has a total probability of around P = 24% to feel at least one big dick in her life (summing up P1 + P2 + … + P9).

Now let’s see which is the probability for two random women to both have ever encountered big dicks?
It’s simply the product of P*P = 5.8%. Not very likely to happen! For a group of three women to have experienced big dicks the odds fall at 1.3%.

I think it’s enough to see that most women never reach to experience a big dick and it’s very unlikely to have a random group of women with real experience of big dicks.
Notice that I lowered the limit for big dicks at 7.5”. If it was 8”+, the odds would have fallen 10 times!

This is a great concept. On average, a woman have 21% chance of meeting a guy with a true 7.5”+ penis in her lifetime. I agree with this concept, but it is not too accurate when applying this formula to human experiences. This formulate would have been great if human interaction is purely a probable event, where one woman meets a guy in an randomized environment. However, is this the case in the real world?

If I play lottery, my chance of winning jackpot relies purely on probability. Similarly, the equation you introduce is assuming that a woman meets a guy in a pure randomized situation. So her chance of encountering a 7.5”+ penis is 21%. I agree with this number.

The challenge, however, is that women can alter their experience by finding the 7.5”+ penis in her lifetime. With Internet, even through words of mouth from friends, a woman can easily target 7.5”+ guys and repeat this experience multiple times in her lifetime. So in reality, this woman’s chance of encountering 7.5”+ penis is way more prevalent than if she had been picking guys in a truly randomized environment.

What is worst is that with Internet, sex-related forums, porn and cam quality pictures (u know how angles and depth can alter a person’s true size), guys and girls can literally increase their experience of seeing and/or encountering above-average penises. So irrespective of the actual probability in a truly randomized environment, most of our perception is “blurred” as a result. Familiarity of an event breeds increased probability in a person’s subjective evaluation.

Another thing is that certain groups of individuals have the tendency to experience above-average penises. A pretty woman may attract more guys who are above-average hung (because of guys who are above-average are more confident to approach pretty girls?).

Just some thoughts.


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All I know is that I have found an extra inch of penis by stretching mechanically and manually over the last ten months.

The hope that we will find science to support our activities is extremely low, as we are mostly not scientists and are not following scientific methods - and the type of scientists who could do this sort of work are busy not doing it - for obvious reasons. (No funding).

Guru out.

Originally Posted by kubchaser
I believe the biggest challenge in a person’s PE career is knowing what “intensity” is needed to produce the most results with the less unproductive stress to the penile structure. I am finally recovering from my hanging.

I agree about intensity and also volume/frequency. The first is very difficult to quantify if you’re using only manual exercises like stretching/bends and jelqing. Having said that, I have the opposite problem of you. I’m paranoid about hurting my unit and I take it very slow and easy. I’ve only recently reached by NBPEL with my stretched maximum. Despite this I have seen some noticeable gains particularly in my base girth and also my testicle placement. My balls have literally move backwards along my shaft. I suspect/suspected it was due to stretching/pulling forces hitting my inner penis and dislodging my balls to fall backwards.


Starting Size: April, 28, 2010: NBPEL-7" Girth-6" (base, MSG, glans)

Currently: BPEL-8" NBPEL-7.25" Girth-6.25" (base)/6.125" (MSG)/6.125" (glans)

I haven’t read all of this, but I refute both points! On the first, erections certainly do bring fresh blood to the penis. Where else would it come from? As soon as it enters the penis, it does so with blood from without the penis. Now on the second point, I give my personal guarantee that the inner penis is very real, and it can be coaxed to the external. Yes, yes— refutation of both points. My .2.


Recognize.

There is no question that there is an inflow of blood, it can be recognized from the physiological depletion from other areas of the body. Inner penis erectile length is an absolute truth and is proven through greater exposure as a result of weight loss and variance of erectile pressure.

Then how come I can feel my inner penis coming out? It really does look like it’s coming out.

Originally Posted by marinera
Has anyone gained a void perineum pulling out his penis doing PE?

I had wondered this same thing. If a penis had been ripped completely to the perineum by heavy hanging or stretching.

Also, traction forces DO exert themself on the inner penis to the perineum if you stretch in upward angles in-line with the inner penis. Do the stretch yourself and feel the inner penis get taught, you can fe

Originally Posted by somastylo
Then how come I can feel my inner penis coming out? It really does look like it’s coming out.

I know what you mean. I feel the same way. I notice it more when I’m not 100% erect but ~80-90% erect and I bend my dick downwards while I’m sitting in a chair. It seems that point of my bend has come further forward at least from below. Before PEing the bend seemed further back. But I’m not 100% sure, as it may also be due to the backward displacement of my balls since I started PEing? Can you describe why yours looks like it’s coming out?


Starting Size: April, 28, 2010: NBPEL-7" Girth-6" (base, MSG, glans)

Currently: BPEL-8" NBPEL-7.25" Girth-6.25" (base)/6.125" (MSG)/6.125" (glans)

Another point.

If we all agree that we are stretching tunica through our length based excercises, upwards angles inline with the inner penis will put stress on the inner penis and it will also have length based growth. Length based growth on the inner penis will be expressed outside of the body, and gives me another motivation to put some length work on that 4” of inner penis I have. I have been focused on BTC stretching for a couple of years. I got some initial BTC gains, but now it feels to be a relatively stiff central lig. I may up the weight, but definately don’t want to tear it like some others have.

“Inner penis growing” isn’t the same thing that “inner penis being exposed” or “pulled out”, as my understanding.

I confess I never felt my inner penis being stretched, BTW.

If inner penis grows would that still lead to length gains because everything is kinda pushed forward, even though there’s no change in the point of attachment of penis to pubic bone? Not sure if I’m making any sense. Something changed in that area with me and I’m not sure what happened but I can see a significantly greater part of my inner penis from below. I doubt it has been pulled out but it seems like it may have grown or it looks that way because my balls went backward. But since my balls went backward I must have been stretching my inner penis, even though it’s hard to see how unless I have a very loose penile ligament. Some guys actually lack a penis suspensory ligament:

“The diagnosis is made clinically, characterized by the presence of a palpable gap between symphysis pubis and the penis.”

See figures/pics in this article: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/…007.06551.x/pdf


Starting Size: April, 28, 2010: NBPEL-7" Girth-6" (base, MSG, glans)

Currently: BPEL-8" NBPEL-7.25" Girth-6.25" (base)/6.125" (MSG)/6.125" (glans)

Originally Posted by bohm
…. I can see a significantly greater part of my inner penis from below….


How do you know it is the inner penis that you are seeing?

Originally Posted by bohm
…. I doubt it has been pulled out but it seems like it may have grown or it looks that way because my balls went backward. But since my balls went backward I must have been stretching my inner penis…


Not sure I’m understanding. If your balls went backward, it is the outer penis that has grown: the outer penis above balls. If the inner penis has grown, your balls should be pulled ahead, right? Or: let’s say penis and skin haven’t grown at the same rate: this could account for the ‘shifting’ of the balls.

Originally Posted by kubchaser
This is a great concept. On average, a woman have 21% chance of meeting a guy with a true 7.5”+ penis in her lifetime. I agree with this concept, but it is not too accurate when applying this formula to human experiences. This formulate would have been great if human interaction is purely a probable event, where one woman meets a guy in an randomized environment. However, is this the case in the real world?

If I play lottery, my chance of winning jackpot relies purely on probability. Similarly, the equation you introduce is assuming that a woman meets a guy in a pure randomized situation. So her chance of encountering a 7.5”+ penis is 21%. I agree with this number.

The challenge, however, is that women can alter their experience by finding the 7.5”+ penis in her lifetime. With Internet, even through words of mouth from friends, a woman can easily target 7.5”+ guys and repeat this experience multiple times in her lifetime. So in reality, this woman’s chance of encountering 7.5”+ penis is way more prevalent than if she had been picking guys in a truly randomized environment.

What is worst is that with Internet, sex-related forums, porn and cam quality pictures (you know how angles and depth can alter a person’s true size), guys and girls can literally increase their experience of seeing and/or encountering above-average penises. So irrespective of the actual probability in a truly randomized environment, most of our perception is “blurred” as a result. Familiarity of an event breeds increased probability in a person’s subjective evaluation.

Another thing is that certain groups of individuals have the tendency to experience above-average penises. A pretty woman may attract more guys who are above-average hung (because of guys who are above-average are more confident to approach pretty girls?).

Just some thoughts.

Another thing you have to take into account is that most of these girls aren’t going around with rulers measuring all the dicks they encounter. They’re either estimating on sight (we all know how inaccurate that is) or they ask the man, who is likely to lie and say that he’s 8-10”.

Then there’s also the mental increase. For example, if a girl has slept with 10 guys with the distribution of sizes being nine guys with 5.5”x5” and one guy being 7.5”x5.5”, she’s likely to remember the big guy as being bigger than he actually was. This is just a matter of comparing imperfect memories.

There’s also the possibility of hyperbole: girl saying she knows multiple guys who are as thick as a soda can (probably <.001% of the population).

The moral of the story: don’t put much confidence in accounts given by girls on penis sizes.


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Current: BPEL-6.5" mid-shaft EG-5" Goal: NBPEL-9" EG-6.5"

Originally Posted by kubchaser
This is a great concept. On average, a woman have 21% chance of meeting a guy with a true 7.5”+ penis in her lifetime. I agree with this concept, but it is not too accurate when applying this formula to human experiences. This formulate would have been great if human interaction is purely a probable event, where one woman meets a guy in an randomized environment. However, is this the case in the real world?

Another way to put this (I think) is if a man or woman has the average amount of sexual partners (nine) than their chances or encountering an 7.5 inch penis in the 9 encounters of only 21%.

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