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Hi commanderblop,

Are you absolutely positive you’ve gained? I do believe in PE, but checked your photo’s as a result of reading this thread. My concern is, that you have a vein the branches off to the right, about 3 inches along your shaft. In the 1st pic this vein is about 3 inches along your penis and in the second, it’s about 3.5” along. This suggests that all your gains have taken place in the first 3 inches of your penis and the rest of the shaft is still the same length. Given the routine you were mostly doing at the time, which i believe was pumping and jelqing there doesn’t seem to be a reason for this. Are you sure you weren’t just pressing harder in the second photo or standing at a diffeent angle or with your legs further apart? All these things can easily explain an extra half inch gain. I’m not for one second suggesting that you are in anyway purposefully misleading anyone and I have no idea of what your PE history has been since the photo’s were taken and you’ve probably gone on to gain more length, but from the photo’s, personally I’m not sure you’ve actually gained. I’m probably being seriously dumb here and the position of the vein will probably have little meaning, but I just wanted to check.

Meh, I’m not sure what the fuss is all about. I do a lot of pumping, it’s easy to see if there is a gain when pumping to the same vacuum. I’ve gained just over 1.5 cm of length in the pump in the 10 months I’ve been doing this sincerely, girth is harder to quantify as it involves fluid buildup. I actually enjoy this site more for the chat in the various threads - and Twat’s contributions. If you don’t gain, well try something new, quit, or just continue on ‘cause it’s fun - who cares. Trashing the site won’t change anyones perspective, it’s just your comment and you’re entitled to it. Proof of gains etc, well, I never kept photos, maybe I should have but too late now :) , I can see it in my hands, and what my gf says - and even if it was all in my mind, it would still be worth it. Ultimately it’s all about feeling better about oneself - and it’s hard to put a value on an improvment like that.

I would like to say first off, Para-goomba I <3 the avatar.

I never took pics of my cock because I was VERY scared about a few things.
1. Would I actually grow?
2. Would I see how small I actually was?(I think I am one of the few who was a bit undersized at the start who felt better about my size after reading on this forum)
3. What If I in a drunken mess (as I was a few months ago) sent this to girls I am interested to on my phone and they got turned off by the size?

Even As I measured and found gains and got comments of increased size from my ex and some partners I still doubted. One day my buddy told me I should try on Magnums, I did and they fit perfectly, the same way old condoms used to, I can not fake that Mis-measure or anything that is actual size increase. It’s not like I found a way to shrink the condoms, I just got bigger.

With measuring my length especially I have periods of disbelief in the gains I have made, 1.125” puts me along with people doing this for a year or more, I always measure using the same technique with the same ruler, but like you I thought I must be cheating to get that extra little bit. ON this I have a bit of good news.

Over christmas break I shaved, Baby boy shaved for the first time. I had 0 shaft hair, or it only was on the first milimeter of the shaft, negligable. This was 3 months before PE. I Shaved the same way a few days ago, and Guess what? I have pubic hair from my fat pad up more that 1 1/16” on my erect shaft. It kind of sucks because I am deathly afraid to touch it with a razor with all those veins so close to the skin, but I realized the difference and was like shit this is real, this is not something that I am changing or manipulating.

Beyond that, before PE I could dig down and find a measurement of well under 6”, Now no matter what, (Even with my curve not straightened) I hit about 6. My curve is kind of large so when I straighten it out I see a significant amount more length, but I have always done this since my first measurement so I should be able to trust the ruler, even if i dont and i need things outside numbers to prove it.

Gains,

I am not going to say anything about you or your situation because I do not know what it is like, and I respect how hard it must be to stay motivated and optimistic when people are posting gains. I wish you luck in however you decide your PE future to pan out.

Good luck to all you other 99,998 too!

A Sidenote, For the 1st time ever I hit Spellcheck and the only Red thing was goomba. Yay Clemski getting less stupid!

Its totally understandable for you to feel this way Gains.

I actually had a similar experience in another PE forum and one day out of frustration I just vented out cursing everyone and claiming PE was fake as well as all the members there.

I took some time of and then tried a different approach to things. In this case the thing I discovered made the greatest difference in the world was to stretch before jelqing, as well as doing some piss pulls everyday.

It took some time but right now I’m more or less 6.4 inches nbp in length and I can assure you I wasn’t over 5.6 inches nbp about 11 months ago. So just keep trying different things and try to loosen up a bit.

I understand that your are not comfortable with your size no matter what anyone can tell you, but at least feel happy that you are in the higher end of average. Your gains will come so just try to keep the faith.

By the way I did it took me abut 7 months doing that wrong routine I told you about so if you look at it this way it almost took me two years to get things right, get the techniques and discover what worked for me. And I will be happy to give it another two years or as long as it takes to feel satisfied and reach my goals.

Okay, let us question all the photos, you threw it out joey999. Go for it!

I have just had it!

I just want to say one thing right now! No one is holding anybody hostage here, you are free to leave, BUT thunders is free. FREE, does any body not understand that! I don’t give a shit what anybody thinks of this post. Do you all think Thunder makes a lot of money from doing this, fuck no! But a lot of us have benefited from this either in gains or best of all, friendship, and he has put his time in to do that for all of us. If you want to pay for this than go for it, but this place is the foundation that all the other forums have fed off of, and it is still free. A lot of members have posted pics and they do to help and encourage and many including myself will not post pics for personal reasons, like my profession. I will not let a dick pic ruin my career but others here stick their necks out to prove things work. I have gained and I will continue to help and mentor, but I don’t have to prove anything to any of you, I see the results every time I look down. I never took before shots and now, I wish I should have, but I too was a skeptic. If I you do not gain and think this place or PEing is bullshit, so fucking what, move on. I’m sorry, some of the mods have tried to massage this thread and they did well, but to start finger pointing does not work for me.

OKAY! who wants to start pointing fingers.

commanderblop has truly been an inspiration to me, his advise has also helped me truly.

:up: Well said, TNT.

joey999,

Without looking at the picture, I guess I can say this: the veins you see in pics move with the outer layer of skin, i.e. they are not fixed to the shaft (check your own shaft). When you jelq there is a tendency to stretch the skin at the weakest point (above the balls, turkey neck). I guess this would indicate that veins are likely to move more up the shaft over time. So the position of veins is not really that interesting unless you see some veins magically repeating up the shaft as we have with some photoshopped pics here.

No worries, amigo. And no, I don’t think you are being dumb.

Others have questioned my gains, and if you read the thread in my sig you can see how I respond in more detail than I will post here. Please do that, as I don’t want to sidetrack this thread with some big defense.

I will say, “what you see is what you get”. I haven’t made any major gains since the comparison pic, so if you don’t think I gained something, then your opinion is totally valid and I won’t try to change your mind. My own feeling is — and I have re-looked at the photo comparisons many times — that the gain seems obvious. It is a modest gain, but a gain none-the-less, in my opinion.

If others see it differently then I am totally cool with that. I trust that people appreciate that I show my pics in good faith, and am not trying to hoodwink anyone, and I am comfortable with people making their own judgments one way or the other. I mean that sincerely. :)

Note: If people want to discuss the validity of my pics, I urge you to do so in the thread that offers the images (in my signature), or to start a new thread.

To be honest, I came very close not to asking the question, simply because I thought someone like you might come along. These kind of responses are pointless and totally contradictory to what a forum is all about. People shouldn’t be criticised for asking questions or raising doubts or concerns. In fact they should be encouraged to do so. But responses like yours hardly do that, do they? If you actually look at the photo’s, then you’ll see that the question I asked was a very reasonable one and thanks to commanderblop’s response, in which he directed me to another thread, I can see is one that has already been asked before, expressing the exact same concerns. I clearly expressed that I wasn’t doubting commanderblops’ integrity, but simply asking for a response on a concern I had about something he’d posted. That to me is what this kind of forum is all about.

Well such a full and frank apology is rare indeed these days. I also admire Thunderss for letting you keep your account long enough to make it. :)

I feel that one point you made was valid and certainly plagued me when I first started. When I started PE, I knew that bone pressed meant bone pressed; but I am not sure how hard I was pressing. Once I got going, I stated to press quite hard. So it’s possible that some of my initial gains were due to improvement in my measuring technique. But I started at 5.75 BPEL, and now if I gritt my teeth and press really hard - with paramedics on standby - I can get a reading of 6.75 - just.

So I certainly don’t feel I’ve gained a whole inch, but there is no way I have not gained something. Also the other day, I was holding me erect unit in a lazy OK grip round the middle, and noticed, that my finger and thumb were not touching. WTF? Wifey uttered a "bloody hell" when she caught a glimpse!

Also, try this exercise: My quest for PE knowledge - with conclusion!

As I can understand the topic of this thread, in his essence, I think there is only one thing to say: skepticism can’t be beaten with rational arguments. There is always a good reason for not believing in any given claim, or sentence, at least if it isn’t a formal sentence, like a maths definition or theorem.

On the other hand, skepticism lead us to nowhere; you can’t build anything on the void. We all are disposed to accept relatives degrees of truth in our daily life, to make decisions that will affect our whole existence.

If your choice is “I don’t believe”, nothing will convince you; if your choice is “I could believe, if something that doesn’t strain credibility is presented to sustain a given claim”, then this whole discussion is largely dead at the same time it was born: what is said in the first post of this thread? ThunderSS made modest gains, and he is not doing anymore PE.

Where the poster has read such a thing? HERE. On TP. This is a proof that this site is producing an hard effort in presenting things honestly, and the first enemies of BS are: the site owner, the mods, the vets. Anybody can see that this is true, reading daily posts, comments on pics posted etc. etc..

This site is the first to say: not everybody will gain with PE; PE is not an easy regimen; pills don’t work; don’t buy anything before you aren’t an experienced PEer; most of commercial PE devices can be made at your home with minimal expenses etc. etc. etc..

That’s all the proof you need, as I see things.

Oh, for heaven’s sake, grow up.

I mean, god, no wonder you have no gains, with this kind of attitude. PE is not only about technique, it’s also about being confident. I’m a newbie, I started PEing about three months ago and gained maybe 1/2 inch or so in length… I’m about 6.25 now, and although it’s not so big, you know what? I FEEL big, and I’m more confident then ever about my dick, and that’s what PE is all about really.

But you know what? After such a long time, I guess you’re really a lost cause… So yeah, go on, sure, TP is a scam, it’s all for the awfully big amount of donation money, and all the men here a bunch of liars, sure. So, go on, just go to do something useful with your life, and leave us alone with our stupid dreams.

I’m really sorry for you, perhaps you’ll find hope one day :-(

Here here Mdrg! I am happy that you have made gains, It’s inspiring. You have a brilliant attitude. Be happy friend!

Gains wanted, please check out my pictures. I have gained almost 1.5 inches in about 3 years time. It takes time and much dedication to get results like this. I don’t measure bpel either, to me its irrelevant. I didn’t really start getting gains until I started using a infrared lamp during my workouts.

>I have gained almost 1.5 inches in about 3 years time. … I don’t measure bpel either, to me its irrelevant.<

Have you lost any weight in the 3 years?