Hey girlslikeme, I know first hand the trauma of having a somewhat mysterious medical intervention on your member way back in childhood, and I sympathise. I had a circumcision when I was probably about 2 or 3, I didn’t have any awareness of that, I was too young to remember or understand, but I just knew my dick seemed to almost disappear inside me; I was too embarrassed to change, shower etc in front of anyone. It wasn’t until I was about 11 or 12 that my parents explained the original operation had been botched and they were concerned enough to refer me to a specialist, who said actually my dick wasn’t abnormally tiny, it was just being held in a permanently turtled state by a ring of scar tissue from the incomplete and incompetent circumcision. He called it a ‘buried penis’. I sort of still had a foreskin, but it was very tight and a bit short. About age 13 I was operated on again, and the damage was largely rectified by a complete cicumcision and some stitches. Since then my dick has been normal but a bit disappointing in size and still very prone to turtling. I wonder to this day whether the fact that my dick was restricted all through childhood stopped it growing as much as it should have done. Anyway I’ll get to the point - about 4 and a half months of the newbie routine have given me a much improved flaccid hang - not huge, but turtling is now rare and my dick looks half-respectable. So I’d second those who recommend the normal jelqing and stretching to help your flaccid. I haven’t used an ADS but it sounds like it might be a good addition to your routine too. I haven’t gained much EL yet, maybe a touch, but I remain hopeful and I’m happy that I’ve at least got something out of all this effort! I reckon you will too.