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My introduction and condom size for 4' girth

Originally Posted by Mushroom
You’re measuring NBP, so I assume you’re about 5.25” or so BP. That’s only slightly below average. You have a much smaller than average stature (assuming you’re not fat), however, so proportionate to your body size, your dick is going to look at least average to a girl when she sees you naked. If you manage to build a big dick via PE, it’s going to look huge on you. That’s the silver lining to your situation.

Yeah.. That’s the only way I can save myself. Having a 7x6 is my goal. I’m not fat.In fact I’m in shape. Having a huge dick is the only way I can see myself with confidence around women.

And I have to tell you.. I’m drunk right now. That’s what I do Saturday night. I drink and drink and drink until I cannot speak right. Until I cannot say a word right. So I don’t fucking care when I’m drunk. You think I’m small fuck you You think I’m tiny fuck you.

Even drunk I cannot get laid.

Thank GOD or whatever I have male friends that care about me.

My physical dimentions are not designed for this world. Why? Sometimes I see myself in the mirror and think.. It could be worst.a micro penis would be worst, a midget would be worst. A missing arm could be worst. A missing leg could be worst. WHY I CANNOT BE GRATE FULL for what I have.. I don’t know why. I cannot say I’m glad I have what I have because have NOTHING physically speaking.

I always will envy you people.. Tall men with more than average dicks. Fucking girls all the time. Like is not big deal. Oh and their problems are “
This girl never stop calling me ” or “how I get rid of this girl”.

Right.. That’s the way it is. The only thing big I have is my dreams of success.

And yes.. I won’t stop working on my penis until it is big, fucking big. I won’t stop. Never.

And I’m sorry for my rant or whatever. I just have to say If you are more than 5x4.5 and more than 5’5 in height then you are fucking GOOD. Stop complaining. Leave the complaining to me. That’s what I do. Complain. Drink and smoke.


Mi cuerpo sera pequeno, pero mi mente es infinitamente grande.

Originally Posted by matutinal_euphony
Let’s be honest: 4.5 x 4 is small— it’s not normal. Now that we’ve got that out of the way, welcome to Thunder’s Place. You’ve got a lot of work to do, and you’ve got a place here where you can feel comfortable asking questions, learning, collaborating with others, and ultimately growing your penis and along with that your confidence and quality of life will surely improve. Now, my recommendation is that you use an All-Day Stretcher and begin light pumping. These two things will work tremendously in favor of improving your dick stats. Once you pass the 5” mark in length, you can begin your search for the right woman to have sex with. If you are under 5”, though, many women will act like idiots and quite possibly judge you. Nonetheless, as another member mentioned, a very small penis can indeed work— but society says “small is bad” so it’s hard to get past that. Anyhow, jump on the boat with your PE routine and get the ball rolling. Once you start gaining, you’re going to be very happy and you’re going to become anxious to have sex. When the momentum is right, I bet things will fall right into place. I would say you can safely assume you can reach the 5” mark within 4 months of All-Day Stretcher. The pump will fatten you up a lot, too, and you will become confident enough to start approaching women. Good luck!!!

I agree, good luck……….BUT I don’t really agree with too much else. Yes, I don’t like to just say things to make people feel better about themselves if it has no truth. No, your dimensions are not big at all, but you ARE normal. You are NOT ridiculously small and there are people on this board smaller and were smaller. You had the right attitude, it can always be worse and don’t ever turn down sex because you feel you are inadequate. That kind of thinking will do nothing for you. I won’t sugar coat it, you’re not big, I’m not big at all either. Does it really matter?? no. Like you said, you could be a midget, you could be missing an arm, you could be blind or deaf. Keep that fuck you confident attitude and go out and get laid. Just dont let it be your end all be all thought. Go about your business in life and it will happen. I’m only 5’8” and I know you’re probably thinking that’s a world of difference from you (and it kind of is) but either way you look at it it’s still short. Don’t let physical stature ever stop you from getting laid or having confidence. If a girl likes you for you she will sleep with you if that’s what you want. Don’t put too much pressure on them or yourself. You ARE NORMAL! Remember that. Your quality of life DOES NOT have to improve. The quality could ALWAYS be great, you can just improve the length and girth of your dick and keep and add to the size in your pants. A good attitude like you had is a way of life and it will bring you most of the things you need in life. Don’t be a walking self-fulfilling prophecy.

Originally Posted by johndough123
I’m also near your height too, I’m 5’5”-5’6” and I hooked up with a girl that was 5’9”-5’10”, it was an awesome night. Get in shape, have fun, and be confident. Some ladies do have height hang ups, I’m not going to lie about that I’ve experienced them myself. However, those same girls given the right circumstances will hook up with you. I had a girl tell me she would never date a guy under 6’0” tall and we went out one night and she bought me shots and we got drunk. Sure enough she drove me back to my place and we made out on my porch and the only reason we didn’t hook up is I broke my key off in the door I was so drunk then started puking after 15 mins. Lol Read up on sexual techniques, read as much as you can. From my experience girls are more impressed by technique than size because it comes down to how you make them feel and how the experience is. I dated a girl who was with a guy that wore magnums before me and we had great sex. We had an on again off again relationship, but she always came back for sex even if we were not officially dating.

I started laughing after reading about you almost puking. I’ve had many said encounters.

Welcome to the forums Carlos. It’s a really great place, and definitely lots of sound advice as well as PEing techniques. I’ve been PEing for four odd years now, and while not an avid posted I read on the forum almost everyday. I too had height issues, and hey man I’m 5’7. I understand the height issue as I like to be taller than the females I am with. But only recently have I begun to feel very confident in my height and overall stature. I workout intensely and am very happy with my physique and just.. Me overall.

Like many others have said on various posts such as these. Dick size will only get you so far. There’s a lot more to work on than dick size. That will only help so much. Being more confident, and happy with yourself will lead you the greatest results. Thus, I recommend not only PEing but also spending time being productive and involving yourself in social circles and hobbies you love. Be happy with life, and life will reward you.

My PE stats have hardly budged, but I keep working at it. Though, all other parts of my life have improved tremendously since I began PE. It’s not about dick size bro, but that’s one place to start. Pure confidence solely based on dick size is utterly shallow and is more vain than confident.


5/16/06 - BPSFL: 7" BPEL: 6.5" EL: 6" EG: 4.75"

Goal - 7.5"x5.5"

"If your success is not on your own terms, if it looks good to the world but does not feel good in your heart, it is not success at all."

Originally Posted by ck10n3
Pure confidence solely based on dick size is utterly shallow and is more vain than confident.

I agree. I’m not talking about overall confidence. I’m not shy. All my friends respect me. I make people laugh, dudes and girls. I’m talking more like confidence with women, know I can satisfy a women sexual needs. I always try to talk about sexual things with girls and they laugh etc. And I think I LOOK confident but somehow I know they know I’m not confident. And somehow they end up with another dude.

So what I need is like really BELIEVE I can satisfy a girl no matter the penis size. In fact.. I believe that. I think I can get her off using oral, but then.. I have no experience to confirm that. If you read again I said “I think.” instead of “I know.”.

Originally Posted by hung21
Your quality of life DOES NOT have to improve. The quality could ALWAYS be great, you can just improve the length and girth of your dick and keep and add to the size in your pants. A good attitude like you had is a way of life and it will bring you most of the things you need in life. Don’t be a walking self-fulfilling prophecy.

Great advice, thank you hung21. "Self-fullfilling prophecy” haha. You are right about that.

Thank you all you guys for your answers, I will update you with my life changes and I will try to help others in this community the way you are helping me.

Thanks,
Carlos


Mi cuerpo sera pequeno, pero mi mente es infinitamente grande.

Originally Posted by hung21
I’m only 5’8” and I know you’re probably thinking that’s a world of difference from you (and it kind of is) but either way you look at it it’s still short.

Haha. If I wake up one day being 5’8 I would start fucking jumping around, I would be so happy that I would start giving away money to strangers.


Mi cuerpo sera pequeno, pero mi mente es infinitamente grande.

Originally Posted by Clubber
I don’t want to be a jerk, but I really feel this comparison is misleading and is just a lie to make men feel better, so I feel inclined to mention that a finger has the ability to bend at an array of different angles and the hand can assist fingers to rotate and the arm can assist the hand in doing lots of interesting things as well, not to mention you can add more than two fingers if you wanted too and even make a fist. A penis can’t do anything like that.

My girlfriend takes some warming up before she’s happy with me putting two fingers in her, also: she does like me bending my fingers to stimulate her G-spot but a lot of the stimulation comes from doing it at a hyper speed. Although not -quite- as fast, I can come quite close to that in a few positions.

Originally Posted by wjug17
Ah and by the way, I’m not 4.5, I’m 12cm and that is 4.72 right now. I have grown like 0.3-0.4 cm in more than a month doing stretches and jelqing, so do you think I should go with an ADS with only one month of PE? If I pump from the beginning, does that stop the length grow? I have read that we should focus on girth after focusing on length.

Thanks,
Carlos

Carlos - if you want to maximize your gains - don’t start with ADS or pumping until you have stopped gaining from the Newbie Routine. This could take up to a year or even more. Good luck and don’t wait to grow before you go after the pussy. Experience will give you confidence.

Originally Posted by Pringles Can
Carlos - if you want to maximize your gains - don’t start with ADS or pumping until you have stopped gaining from the Newbie Routine. This could take up to a year or even more. Good luck and don’t wait to grow before you go after the pussy. Experience will give you confidence.

Thanks Pringles, Yes that’s my plan. Keep doing what it’s working until stop working.


Mi cuerpo sera pequeno, pero mi mente es infinitamente grande.

Dude, you’re making a mistake by putting your perceived chances with women totally dependent on the size of your dick. Believe it or not, not all women think a dude with a big dick is the be-all and end-all of what they’re looking for in a mate. Women are more concerned with a man’s social status, income potential and fame than they are with the size of their dick. If anything, a big dick is a plus, and will most likely play an important role in whether or not a woman will choose to have a one-night stand with a dude possessing one, because it will definitely lead to sexually gratifying the woman on that particular day or night.

As far as a man’s physical appearance, the only important factor in that department is height. I think all women would want their ideal man to be tall. But these same women would also like their ideal man to be rich AND famous, or in a position of power. If they find a man who isn’t famous or in a position of power, then he’s probably rich. If he isn’t tall, then he’s probably rich OR famous, etc.

Height will definitely help a man get laid, but height is not everything. Personality is also important. A short dude with an outgoing personality and who is the life of the party and makes everybody laugh is more likely to get laid and be successful in sexual or romantic relationships than a tall dude who is quiet and who does not like socializing.

As for me, I’m 5’4, only 2 inches taller than you, and I never seriously thought my height was responsible for my failures with women. Granted, if I were taller the extra inches in height would definitely help, but my personality is largely to blame. Early childhood experiences of getting bullied, getting treated like crap, getting screwed over in my high school years while at the same time dealing and dabbling in drugs have left me the bitter, pessimistic, miserable, quiet and unsociable person I am today. I have had instances in the past where girls in school and parties had shown interest and attraction towards me, but I never reciprocated, because my mind was too busy getting consumed with negative thoughts of just how bad the world really is.

My penis is currently at 6.8 in. BPEL, and while its size never bothered me too much, I still felt really inadequate. My initial girth was 4.3 in. MSEG and when I first tried on a standard Trojan lubricated condom, I didn’t have any trouble putting it on. It wasn’t until I lost my virginity at the age of 18 that I was in for a reality check of just how fine my dick really is. I made the girl orgasm as I was plowing her on the second try. The first try I did not last too long, and in the downtime between the two tries, I was OD’ing on the foreplay.

I personally think it would be wrong for you to wait till your penis gets bigger before you lose your virginity, because believe it or not, everybody’s first time will be over before they know it. If some chick ridicules you or laughs at your size or spreads hateful rumors, so what, let her laugh and spread those rumors. If she doesn’t, then good. You only live life once, and you don’t want to be on your deathbed only to find yourself regretting the things you didn’t do. You’re young, enjoy your years of youth while you still can, because once they’re gone, you can’t get them back.

So what have you been doing since Jan 2007 wjug17?

You have been a member for almost 4 years basically….

Get into a routine and all will fall into place.

You could get a girl that is 4’11 as I aim for women who are between 2”-8” shorter than me and I am 5’9 and 19(still growing though) but you can do it I am sure.


Started: NBPEL 5.5 == EG: 5

Current: NBPEL 7.5 == EG: 6

Goal: NBPEL 8 == EG: 6

wjug17,

Good luck with things. While I totally understand your reluctance to get with a girl at your current size, I still think you should go ahead and do it. At 5’2”, it’s highly unlikely that the kind of woman who would need/want a big dick to enjoy sex would be interested in you (due to stereotypes about height and dick size) so if you get a girl interested in you, she’s probably not a size queen. If you were a 6’4” 250 lb. black guy with your current stats, you’d be in trouble as you might attract a lot of those size queen types.


"If you can conceive it, and you can believe it...then you can achieve it."

Formerly known as Gandolf

I know the feeling when I started I was 5.0bpel x 5.0 mseg and was about 4.5nbpel at 6ft 240lbs. I had a bad experience with a girl and some friends that started me with pe.Now I am at 6.7bpel x5.7mseg and 6.0nbpel which took some time and I am still growing I hope. My advice is to have sex when ever you can regardless of size cause sometimes I think women don’t care or don’t notice. This girl I was with a few years ago I recently fucked a few times and she never said nothing about my old size or new size.


Started: 5.0bpelx5.0mseg.

Now:6.7bpelx5.7mseg/6.0bg

jdvert, congratulations on AWESOME gains!!!!! :-)


Recognize.

Thanks, I think if it was not for internet porn there would be less problems with size anxiety which could lead to performance anxiety. Wjug17 will find out that sex is so much more than size. I will probably stop at 7.0bpel x 6.0mseg I wish that was 7.0 nbpel but I that is a good size. Wjug17 at your height when you gain some size it will look bigger on you than taller guys. Some benefits of being short.


Started: 5.0bpelx5.0mseg.

Now:6.7bpelx5.7mseg/6.0bg

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I personally think it would be wrong for you to wait till your penis gets bigger before you lose your virginity, because believe it or not, everybody’s first time will be over before they know it. If some chick ridicules you or laughs at your size or spreads hateful rumors, so what, let her laugh and spread those rumors. If she doesn’t, then good. You only live life once, and you don’t want to be on your deathbed only to find yourself regretting the things you didn’t do. You’re young, enjoy your years of youth while you still can, because once they’re gone, you can’t get them back.

Yes, I agree with you, the problem is the condoms I have tried, all are loose and slip off, and my dick becomes soft very fast. Is really a mess. I havent tried standard trojans. So thats why I’m nervous to have sex, because if the girl find out the condom is slipping off, thats like “wow its really THAT small”.

You are saying you had 4.3in of girth. Thats only 0.3in more than me. Then I dont understand why I’mhaving problems with the condoms.

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So what have you been doing since Jan 2007 wjug17?

You have been a member for almost 4 years basically….

Yes, I haven’t done anything… I was focus on money all those years. But now I need to solve my sexual life.

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Good luck with things. While I totally understand your reluctance to get with a girl at your current size, I still think you should go ahead and do it. At 5’2”, it’s highly unlikely that the kind of woman who would need/want a big dick to enjoy sex would be interested in you (due to stereotypes about height and dick size) so if you get a girl interested in you, she’s probably not a size queen. If you were a 6’4” 250 lb. black guy with your current stats, you’d be in trouble as you might attract a lot of those size queen types.

Yeah, that’s makes sense, In fact I was thinking that a small girl with tight vagina would be perfect. But somehow I can’t attract girls. I’m not ugly btw. Maybe is because I’m looking for girls in the wrong places. (clubs,bars,etc), girls on those places always look for the most attractive man they can get. I’m sure I’m very far from that category.

So in conclution… I have never turned down sex. I have never had the CHANCE to have sex in the first place. So looking it from other way, my problem is not my penis but my confidence around women, that can improve if I had past expierences wich I don’t. So is like a negative loop. So that’s why I’m focusing on the penis, because I want to replace the need for past expierences with a more than average dick, this way I’m SURE that I can satisfy the girl and won’t need past expierences to have confidence.

What do you guys think of that analysis?


Mi cuerpo sera pequeno, pero mi mente es infinitamente grande.

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