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My first post, and a few questions

Hello everyone,

This is my first post to Thunder’s. I started PE back in February, and I’d like to share my story and gains, and ask a few questions.

Stats:

2/06: BPEL: 5.70

EG: 4.60

7/06 BPEL: 6.70

EG: 4.80

My starting routine was a hot wrap with a “grits sock”, followed by 5-10 min. Of manual stretching, and 2 sets of 10-15 min. Jelqs. I increased the jelqs over time, and later added some manual clamping and squeezes. About two months ago I started clamping, and this month I added a little pumping to the routine.

I guess my main question is about what my goals should be. I am happily married, and the only reason I am doing this is to better please my wife. We already have an awesome sex life, and after ten years with her I know just how to push her buttons, but I know that a bigger penis would bring her more pleasure, and would help with my confidence in bed. My wife is built large, (not fat, but like Laura Prepon, Donna on “That 70’s Show”), and I think she needs quite a bit of girth. A few weeks after starting PE I had great “newbie gains”, and during sex one night I knew I was going deeper than ever before. I could tell that she could tell, but when she finally said something, she commented on how much “girthier” it seemed, and not the length, (still an awesome feeling)!

At this point I think I don’t need any more length. She says now that sometimes it goes too deep and causes pain. I think I probably need around 6+ inches girth, but I am wondering if this is possible without gaining much more length. I guess 7 inches length would be okay, but how would a 7X6.5 look? Is it possible? Should I cut out the stretching and jelqs and stick to clamping and pumping? Thanks in advance for any help you guys can offer.

The most common goals here are between 8x6” and 8.5x6.5”. There are guys who go above it, like myself (8.7x6.7”).

In my opinion a cock looks ideal when it has a girth between 70-80% of the length in circumference. For example, at 8x6, the girth is 75% of the length. Below 70% looks kind of skinny, above 80% looks kind of short.

I don’t believe that your wife can only handle 7”. When properly stimulated, nearly any woman can at least take 9”, more likely 10”. This doesn’t mean that a 7” doesn’t give her satisfaction, of course it does. But you shouldn’t keep it at 7” because she might feel pain on occasion. Then you hit her cervix. Improve your technique and go for the size you desire, but don’t go for 12x8”, then you can kiss sex goodbye.

I’m right around your size right now. What sucks for me though is my girth and length are the same, so like bird said it looks short to me. Right now my routine is about 90 percent length exercises. I may be gaining a little girth from jelqing which is fine but I’d like to have it look longer. My long term goal is 7.5X5.5 which would look awesome once I have it. I agree with bird I believe all women can handle 7 inches BP. You have gained an inch in 5 months? That’s pretty good gains.


Current measure ment 8-2-06 EL- 5.5, EG- 5.25, BPEL-6 7/6, BPFSL-7.25

Short term goal EL- 6.0, EG-5.5

Long term goals EL- 7 to 7.5, EG- 5.5 to 6.0

Good job, I hope I can gain an inch in such a short time!

From what I’ve heard, getting to 6.5” girth from 4.8” is going to be a bitchload of work but it is possible. Good luck and keep tugging (or clamping in your case :) )


Starting Stats (5/21/06) - BPEL: 6.75 | NBPEL: 5.75 | EG: 5.75 (Mid) 6 (base)

Current Stats (8/21/06) - BPEL: 7.00 | NBPEL: 6 | EG: 6.0 (Mid) 6.375 (base)

My new Goal: To have the volume of a Coke can (21.65625 cubic inches ;) )

Thanks for the help guys. As far as the length gains I’ve made, it is mostly from jelqing. I tend to skip stretching sometimes.

Another question: Is it common for a penis to be oval shaped instead of more like a cylinder? Mine is kind of wide and flat, and my girth gains seem to just be on the sides. Is there any special exercise or technique to gaining on the top and bottom?
Thanks

Originally Posted by jrjrjr
Another question: Is it common for a penis to be oval shaped instead of more like a cylinder? Mine is kind of wide and flat, and my girth gains seem to just be on the sides. Is there any special exercise or technique to gaining on the top and bottom?
Thanks

My penis is shaped exactly like yours. There is no technique to gain specially at the top or bottom, you just gain in all directions with girth exercises, top, bottom and sides.

Originally Posted by Bird2

I don’t believe that your wife can only handle 7”. When properly stimulated, nearly any woman can at least take 9”, more likely 10”. This doesn’t mean that a 7” doesn’t give her satisfaction, of course it does. But you shouldn’t keep it at 7” because she might feel pain on occasion. Then you hit her cervix. Improve your technique and go for the size you desire, but don’t go for 12x8”, then you can kiss sex goodbye.


Hold up, hold up…

Where the … are you getting this from? Do you realize how much 9”-10” is? That’s monstrous. You said “nearly any woman can at least take… ” .. huh? Are you around nothing but size queens or something :eek: ? I’ll tell you right now that what you said is incorrect. SOMETIMES, it’s true, but way more often than not, it’s false. If you would’ve said 7” or 8” as the MAX (more 8”), I wouldn’t have even noticed it as that’s pretty much common knowledge, but you’re throwing out these beyond already Big numbers. Not trying to “attack” you Bird2, I’m just saying because [at least to me] it seemed like you didn’t really grasp what you were saying. Like I said, I’m not saying that what you said is always false, just that for the very vast majority if the time, it is [false]. I think you have to realize that there could’ve been x-many people that read that post and were mislead; mislead in the sense because you didn’t really clarify that it’s not always true, only sometimes and very rarely it is. Again, this is what I think.. but I only think this because 1.) it just seems to be common knowledge, and 2.) just being alive and hearing/reading/just overall experiencing it many times has further proven to me it to be completely true. Oh, and of course I agree with what you said about the 12”x8” obviously.

As for jrjrjr:
Have you tried horse 440’s or Uli’s?
I think it’s possible, you’ll just [of course] have to really focus your routine on your EG. In other words, your routine’s exercises will obviously almost exclusively be EG exercises (unless you want to completely focus on EG now and worry about EL later).
If you don’t want to focus on EL right now and would rather focus more on EG, then I’d say cut out the stretching since afterall it’s sole purpose is EL (and to a minor extent, FL).

Either way, just stick with it and remember to not rush into it too fast because as too many others have had to learn [the hard way], doing so can result in injury (which could set you back some, if not completely)… and you don't want that.


No dedication + No self-discipline = No Gains. This goes for working out as well. It\'s elementary math kids.

Starting Date: 1-17-05 - EL: 6 in. EG: 5.125 in. ... or 5 2/16 in. ..FL: 4.5 in. ... or 4 8/16 in. FG: 4.5 in. ... or 4 8/16 in.

14th Check-In Date (much 'rest time' so far): 10-01-06 - EL: 7 1/16 in. EG: 5 9/16 in. ................ FL: 5.00 in. ... or 5 in. FG: 4.75 in. ... or 4 12/16 in....1st Goal: EL: 7 in. EG: 5.75 in ... or 5 12/16 in.

I agree with Bird2 on this point. I’m within a hair of 8” BPEL & I have a pretty small fat pad(currently), but my girth is fairly considerably over the 7” mark & as a result, my cock looks a bit stubby. Even if I get the 1” or so length gain that I’m hoping for, the best I can hope for is a length/width ratio of about 1.23. Not that that’s bad, but 1.34 is pretty much ideal, in my humble opinion. (I’d need about 10”BPEL to achieve this ratio & frankly, I don’t see that happening.) In my opinion, a 7”BPEL x 6.5” girth cock would be awfully stubby looking & I don’t think that you’d like it. But, who knows? Even if it were 7” NBPEL, I don’t think that it would look too great with a girth of 6.5”. I’d shoot for 7.5” BPEL & 5.25” girth for now & think about more gains after that. If you can keep your pubic fat pad down to around .5” or less, then you should have an ideal length/width ratio of 1.34 & 5.25” girth is above average.

Even 7”NBPEL x 6” girth, would still look pretty good, but maybe not as good as you’d like. If your fat pad is pretty small, you should already have a length/width ratio of ~1.30, so while this would be very respectable girth, it may not be as good “visually”. It just depends on your mindset. Do you want a cock that she loves to have inside of her, or a cock that she loves to look at? Both would be ideal, but it depends on what’s more important to you. And, I agree with Bird2 on another point: 12x8 would be VERY BAD! :D

Originally Posted by Bird2
The most common goals here are between 8x6” and 8.5x6.5”. There are guys who go above it, like myself (8.7x6.7”).

In my opinion a cock looks ideal when it has a girth between 70-80% of the length in circumference. For example, at 8x6, the girth is 75% of the length. Below 70% looks kind of skinny, above 80% looks kind of short.

I don’t believe that your wife can only handle 7”. When properly stimulated, nearly any woman can at least take 9”, more likely 10”. This doesn’t mean that a 7” doesn’t give her satisfaction, of course it does. But you shouldn’t keep it at 7” because she might feel pain on occasion. Then you hit her cervix. Improve your technique and go for the size you desire, but don’t go for 12x8”, then you can kiss sex goodbye.

Originally Posted by Endow
Hold up, hold up…

Where the … are you getting this from? Do you realize how much 9”-10” is? That’s monstrous. You said “nearly any woman can at least take… ” .. huh? Are you around nothing but size queens or something :eek: ? I’ll tell you right now that what you said is incorrect. SOMETIMES, it’s true, but way more often than not, it’s false. If you would’ve said 7” or 8” as the MAX (more 8”), I wouldn’t have even noticed it as that’s pretty much common knowledge, but you’re throwing out these beyond already Big numbers. Not trying to “attack” you Bird2, I’m just saying because [at least to me] it seemed like you didn’t really grasp what you were saying. Like I said, I’m not saying that what you said is always false, just that for the very vast majority if the time, it is [false]. I think you have to realize that there could’ve been x-many people that read that post and were mislead; mislead in the sense because you didn’t really clarify that it’s not always true, only sometimes and very rarely it is. Again, this is what I think.. but I only think this because 1.) it just seems to be common knowledge, and 2.) just being alive and hearing/reading/just overall experiencing it many times has further proven to me it to be completely true. Oh, and of course I agree with what you said about the 12”x8” obviously.

No, I was fully conscious when I said that. I really think that (nearly) any woman can handle a 9”. The main reason guys don’t think that is possible is because they never saw a woman take a 9” (besides porn) and their precious ego’s can’t handle the thought. Ever thought that it might be possible that wrong stimulation can limit a woman in taking size. When a girl gets properly warmed up she can handle it, I am sure.

I agree with thickone on the stubby part, as my NBPEL is just below 6 but my EG is 6-6.25. It looks pretty stumpy and not the “ideal” looking penis. Then again, whenever a girl sees it or touches it I can see it in their eyes that they’re thinking “Holy Shit this thing is gonna tear me up! YES!”. Still, I’m trying to make it more proportional so they think “Holy Shit this thing is gonna tear me up! YES!” *and* “HOLY SHIT THAT THING IS LONG” :)


Starting Stats (5/21/06) - BPEL: 6.75 | NBPEL: 5.75 | EG: 5.75 (Mid) 6 (base)

Current Stats (8/21/06) - BPEL: 7.00 | NBPEL: 6 | EG: 6.0 (Mid) 6.375 (base)

My new Goal: To have the volume of a Coke can (21.65625 cubic inches ;) )

What he said… :)

Originally Posted by Butterbean569
Still, I’m trying to make it more proportional so they think “Holy Shit this thing is gonna tear me up! YES!” *and* “HOLY SHIT THAT THING IS LONG” :)

Originally Posted by Bird2
The main reason guys don’t think that is possible is because they never saw a woman take a 9” (besides porn) and their precious ego’s can’t handle the thought.

Totally agree with that, however my lady is being honest when she says she likes what I’ve got, but I’d still take a 12 by 8 if it was on offer, id just have to learn to be gentle :)


For our demands most moderate are,

We only want the earth.

James Connolly

12x8!?!?

I would run for the hills. Fast. Screaming in terror.

Originally Posted by Bird2
No, I was fully conscious when I said that. I really think that (nearly) any woman can handle a 9”. The main reason guys don’t think that is possible is because they never saw a woman take a 9” (besides porn) and their precious ego’s can’t handle the thought. Ever thought that it might be possible that wrong stimulation can limit a woman in taking size. When a girl gets properly warmed up she can handle it, I am sure.


Well I was waiting for somebody/the thread starter to ask a question so that I could stay on-topic, but seeing as this seems to kind of split into two I guess I’ll go ahead and post it.

Don’t you think you kind of contradicted yourself there? In porn, the sex setting is a “work setting” because that’s just what it is, their job. In real life, it’s not. In porn, there is no surprise for the girl or anything, she already knows what’s going to happen and she’s gone through it 10 billion times before. In real life, again, it’s not like that (unless you’re vanilla?). In porn, the girl is obviously still “extended” inside from external stimulation, but the internal stimulation is missing. In real life, you get both kinds of stimulation. This would mean that in real life you’re actually getting the real MAX measurement, whereas in porn you’re just getting a size queens extended/MAX measurement. Size queens aren’t an every day thing. If she’s not a size queen, she at least would have to be able to take as much as the MAX vast average for the rest of the population, since in porn you’re working with Big guys (and too big/way too big guys). So you mean to tell me you’ve never had a girl wet before even touching her? In porn, I believe there would be a higher demand for size queens since it allows the producers/etc. more options when shooting videos/scenes. The business part of it comes into play here because when you’re watching the porno “you” are supposed to be the guy. This is obviously why the demand is so damn high in porn for Big guys (even more so for those who happen to fit stereotypes). I could keep going but I’ll conclude it here.

Conclusion: I don’t really understand where you were coming from, or on what grounds you based your statement on? As I said before, just being alive and hearing/reading/just overall experiencing it many times has further proven to me that 7”-8” is the MAX (more towards 8”) a girl can take. Sh*t, even read around on here and you’ll find countless posts that back up the 7”-8” MAX. There’s a reason 8x6 is the sought after goal. Just like there’s a reason for the newbie routine containing what it does. Common knowledge and many many times over tried, tested, and found to be true knowledge. Actually I can even think of a post I read some time ago where Dino9x7 said that at 8.5” BP he bottoms out pretty easily now and that he has to be careful, AND that he thinks anything more would be silly but the only reason why he still wants to pursue 9” BP is because he’s just a “f-ing silly bastard”. Actually here’s the link to that post; I just pulled it up. There’s countless other posts that back-up the 7”-8” MAX limit mark.


No dedication + No self-discipline = No Gains. This goes for working out as well. It\'s elementary math kids.

Starting Date: 1-17-05 - EL: 6 in. EG: 5.125 in. ... or 5 2/16 in. ..FL: 4.5 in. ... or 4 8/16 in. FG: 4.5 in. ... or 4 8/16 in.

14th Check-In Date (much 'rest time' so far): 10-01-06 - EL: 7 1/16 in. EG: 5 9/16 in. ................ FL: 5.00 in. ... or 5 in. FG: 4.75 in. ... or 4 12/16 in....1st Goal: EL: 7 in. EG: 5.75 in ... or 5 12/16 in.


Last edited by Endow : 07-28-2006 at .

Originally Posted by Endow
Well I was waiting for somebody/the thread starter to ask a question so that I could stay on-topic, but seeing as this seems to kind of split into two I guess I’ll go ahead and post it.

Don’t you think you kind of contradicted yourself there? In porn, the sex setting is a “work setting” because that’s just what it is, their job. In real life, it’s not. In porn, there is no surprise for the girl or anything, she already knows what’s going to happen and she’s gone through it 10 billion times before. In real life, again, it’s not like that (unless you’re vanilla?). In porn, the girl is obviously still “extended” inside from external stimulation, but the internal stimulation is missing. In real life, you get both kinds of stimulation. This would mean that in real life you’re actually getting the real MAX measurement, whereas in porn you’re just getting a size queens extended/MAX measurement. Size queens aren’t an every day thing. If she’s not a size queen, she at least would have to be able to take as much as the MAX vast average for the rest of the population, since in porn you’re working with Big guys (and too big/way too big guys). So you mean to tell me you’ve never had a girl wet before even touching her? In porn, I believe there would be a higher demand for size queens since it allows the producers/etc. more options when shooting videos/scenes. The business part of it comes into play here because when you’re watching the porno “you” are supposed to be the guy. This is obviously why the demand is so damn high in porn for Big guys (even more so for those who happen to fit stereotypes). I could keep going but I’ll conclude it here.

Conclusion: I don’t really understand where you were coming from, or on what grounds you based your statement on? As I said before, just being alive and hearing/reading/just overall experiencing it many times has further proven to me that 7”-8” is the MAX (more towards 8”) a girl can take. Sh*t, even read around on here and you’ll find countless posts that back up the 7”-8” MAX. There’s a reason 8x6 is the sought after goal. Just like there’s a reason for the newbie routine containing what it does. Common knowledge and many many times over tried, tested, and found to be true knowledge. Actually I can even think of a post I read some time ago where Dino9x7 said that at 8.5” BP he bottoms out pretty easily now and that he has to be careful, AND that he thinks anything more would be silly but the only reason why he still wants to pursue 9” BP is because he’s just a “f-ing silly bastard”. Actually here’s the link to that post; I just pulled it up. There’s countless other posts that back-up the 7”-8” MAX limit mark.

I don’t understand why you write an whole story about porn while I have said this:

Originally Posted by Bird2
The main reason guys don’t think that is possible is because they never saw a woman take a 9” (besides porn) and their precious ego’s can’t handle the thought.

In this post I am pointing out that a average guy never have saw a girl take a 9” besides porn, in which we agree isn’t reality, and that this gives him a idea that a girl can’t take a 9”. But if he had the skills to warm a woman up really good, she can take a 9”. But nearly no guy can really warm up a girl good, so for many guys 7.5-8-8.5” is the limit. They see that the girl isn’t going to take more than that and they conclude that the reason is that she hasn’t have more space to take a larger cock. I believe that it is more likely that the guy has skipped foreplay to early for the girl to be able to take the 9”.

Of course there are countless post backing the 7-8” up for the reasons I already have given. But saying that because many guys have 8x6 as their goal means that a girl can’t take more is completely ridiculous. Many guys know that 8x6” is going to give women an amazing pleasure and makes them bigger than nearly every guy. It is very likely that he is the biggest she ever had, which is very good for their ego. For this reasons 8x6” is a good size for them and they don’t think it is worth the effort to go for, for instance, 9x7”. But this will not mean that a girl can’t take a 9”. This are two separate things.

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