My experiences after first 11 days of PE and MANY PE questions

Maybe I should have opened more threads for all these questions. Guys, you have been excellent support so far. I hope that some day I’ll be able to help others the way you are helping me. I know that I’m asking a lot of questions, but you all say that the most important thing is to train smart and that’s what I’m trying to do. That’s why I’m asking all this.

I’m following the newbie routine, and I have a very low LOT.

My veins have definitely grown, and my foreskin as well (I am not circumcised). I think I read here somewhere that foreskin growth is the first sign of penis growth, is that true? I can feel more foreskin when masturbating, and also when I’m flaccid it covers the glans much more often then before. I don’t know if veins are at exactly the same place with everyone, but on my penis most veins are located on the bottom right side, about two inches from the base. At first, I felt pain in those veins while jelqing (I know, I know, pain is not allowed), so I had to take it easy on them, but some pain was unavoidable with a regular OK grip. With time they seem to be adapting to the workout, and although these veins still don’t really enjoy jelq strokes, there is much less discomfort then in the first days.

I don’t have a morning wood. That’s not the result of overtraining, because I haven’t had a morning wood for a couple of years already (well, maybe sometime, but extremely rare). I visited a urologist a year ago for some other reasons, and I asked him about that then, and he said it was nothing to worry about. But since I read here that a strong morning wood and nocturnal erections are sure signs of a good routine, I’m wondering whether or not I’m doing something wrong. I felt partial nocturnal erections in two nights, but I think that could just be autosuggestion.

About stretches. I can definitely feel how downward stretches target the ligaments and upward the tunica. And I feel the upward stretches as stronger, which would be in accordance with my LOT. While lurking around the hanger’s forum, I read some comments about how difficult it is (almost impossible according to the guys there) to make tunica gains with stretching alone. Maybe you’ll tell me to “do a damn search”, but there’s something I don’t understand - how can one hang upwards? The last time I checked, Earth’s gravity pulled everything straight down. So the only way I can imagine stretching under high angles would be to lie down with legs on one chair and chest on another, with penis hanging in between. Am I right? But I was thinking, wouldn’t the same effect of “hanging upward” be achieved with a long upward stretch, for example while sitting in your sofa, watching TV and holding an upward stretch?

About jelqing. I don’t find it sexually stimulating at all. How could it be - the stroke ends before glans, and I don’t know about you guys but touching the shaft only doesn’t stimulate me. So I have trouble maintaining an erection while jelqing, I have to use porn for that. The reason I’m writing this is that I can’t constantly maintain the 50% erection needed for length jelq sessions. I would get somewhat more erect, then jelq without looking at the porn and gradually lose the erection, than raise it again and so on. Is that OK?

After PE sessions. Yes, the penis looks thicker and longer, but that’s only for a short while after jelqing. After warm down wrap it returns to normal flaccid size. I’ve read what some members say, how their erect penis is longer for some time after PE workout. That’s not the case with me. My full erection immediately after jelqing is just the same old 13cm, that’s 5.1”. Is that normal, or am I doing something wrong?

I plan to buy an IR lamp as soon as possible. I see that many members claim the best gains while training with it.

I also have some questions about measuring. I assume that it’s not just me and that it’s the same with everyone, but I have to ask - have you noticed that erect length changes significantly depending on position of your legs? For example, if I stand up with my feet right next to each other, my NBPEL is just 4.7”. When feet are shoulder width apart, my penis is 5.1” long, and if I lie on the edge of a bed with legs on the floor, penis is just below 5.5” long. That’s a 0.8” difference in length depending just on a position of my body! Does this have anything to do with potential for gains, and if this is the same with everyone I’m wondering - do some of you guys who are small use this to make love in positions in which your penis is longer? And if so, which positions are the best?

One more thing. While examining pay sites, long time ago, I found in testimonials on one site (can’t remember which one and it’s really not that important), that being in good shape and having good blood circulation is vital for gains. I think that my circulation is poor, because my hands and feet are almost always cold. Any comments and/or suggestions on this?

Nemanja, wow, that’s a lot of questions….lol. And since you’ve been a member for longer than me I won’t give you the “do a damn search” speech , I’ll leave that for someone else…..lol. I’ll try to answer as much as I can with this statement. Know your body. As far as not having morning wood, or longer flaicd hang, or nocturnal erectionsm etc., those are just some of the physiological indicators that guys use to tell them that their routine is either working or not working. The most important thing about PE is….you guessed it….the gains. If all the things that you stated are true, yet you are seeing gains, then those PI (physiological indicators) are telling you that you are doing something RIGHT. So I guess my question to you would be, Are you seeing gains? If you are then you can confidently continue your present course knowing that you are succeeding.

Just as a suggesstion, this is what I have been doing (and I have only been PEing for a couple of weeks now, but I have read enough for a life time). Every day I keep a journal. In the daily journal I document my routine. Then throughout the day periodically I document my PIs (ie, good flacid hang, morning wood, discoloration, whatever). Then every other week I will take measurements and document them as well. You might now be thinking, “great, but what is all that crap for?”. Well, I will tell you. Since PE is all about gains, what I want to do is create a routine where I can see that I am gaining on a daily basis without measuring all the time. How can I do this? By knowing my PIs. By documenting my daily routine and my PIs, if I then take a measurement and see good gains, then I knoe that the PIs I have been recording are my positive PIs. Now just the opposite, if I take measurements at my preset interevals and see no gains (i would sau over the course of a month or so, I’m not going to change anything if I don’t gain after two weeks…lol) then I can say that those PIs are not positive PIs and I will change up my routine and start over again. I think doing this will give me maximum results in the shortest period of time. If you want to read Sparkyx thread on PIs Click here

About jelqing while watching porn. That seems like it is working for you, and I don’t see a problem with it. Just make sure you aren’t too erect while jelqing. Sounds like a good system for you.

About the penis size in different positions. Yes it is different in different positions and yes there are some positions where it is better than others. You just have to experiment a little with different positions to find which works the best. And no I don’t think it has any correlation with potential gains.

Hope I’ve done ok answering your questions. I know someone else will chime in and do a better job than I have done, but this should hold you over until then.

Thank you Ynarevith73. No, so far I haven’t seen any gains, but I think that only a few guys did after only 11 days.

Of course, I’d still like some comments from more experienced members.

Come on you guys, you don’t want to tell me that these questions are so stupid that none of them are worth answering, do you? Can you at least tell me whether or not I’m on the right path? It took me an hour to write this thread (English as a second language), don’t let it be for nothing!

Measure Bone pressed if you want to know real gains. I am all confused about your lying on the bed and leg feet positions, I am assuming its just rearranging the fat pad.

SiamGuy, you’re wrong. I am not fat, I weigh 76 kg, which is some 166lbs, and I’m 180 cm tall, which is about 5.9 feet (if I calculated correctly, but it’s average hight). It’s not about fat pad.

Hello, I’m new to this site and am just browsing around at the moment, but I noticed your comment on your cold hands and feet and wondered if you still suffered this condition and if so have you had your Thyroid checked out?

I know it’s not related to your PE questions but if you are worried about circulation effects on any gains then this can have a detrimental effect on how you are feeling whilst doing any excercises.

Yeah I can also change my measurements of my penis depending on my position!

If I’m sitting on the edge of the chair and push my penis down (forwards) then I gain 1.5cm but if i’m standing and do the same I get my normal 14.8cm, which of course is the one I’m going by.

It’s annoying.

Ok I am no expert but I will try my best to help out.

I have seen no evidence to prove that morning woodys are a indication of good gains. I rarely get morning woods, and that suits me fine because they are annoying as hell when I am trying to get some sleep. But more to the point, there is no solid proof they are a sign of gains, so don’t think about it too much. As roomtogrow said, judge your gains by your actual gains.

Hanging upwards is simply done over the shoulder. So instead of hanging the weight down, you fling it over a shoulder, et viola.

Keeping a constant 80-90% erection during jelqing myself can only be achieved with the help of some virtual women wearing very little clothes. If I hit 100% erection I just think about poo or saddam hussein and my erection drifts back down to the desired 80%. So it’s ok if you can’t keep a constant erection level, it aint easy. Just try your best to stay around 80%.

After a pe session I notice a better hang and my flacid girth is more impressive than usual. This does however die down gradually. I’m not experienced enough to comment on how your flacid penis SHOULD look after pe so I’ll leave this part for others. I have a feeling that it’s probably not that important. What’s important is doing the actual pe routine right.

Right, on to measuring. Forget laying on the bed, or standing upside down on the stairs and all that :P there should be just one position you measure your penis in and that is standing up, feet shoulder length apart, penis facing straight out away from your body. 2 best ways are BPEL and BPFSL, important to remember both are bone pressed, to get more accurate reasings, not to give a false sense of size, which was what I originally thought when I heard of pe etc.

Finally, about being in good shape. I think this goes for anything. Being healthy and having good blood flow throughout the body (which includes the penis) is bound to be better for gains. More experienced members can probably advise you on the cold hands\feet issue.

Good luck.

This condition can be solved by taking gingko biloba.

11 days are nothing. You need to wait between 1 and 3 mounth to see results.

You guys know this over 1 year old right?

Fkin hell. I really need to start lookin at dates on threads.

Siamguy was NOT calling you fat. There is a small pad of protective fat on just above the penis. This protects the bone, etc. Even in fat people the fat pad doesn’t really grow much, although it may retain a slight amount of water. (everyone with a thick pad should try this, drink 10 - 20 glasses of water for 3 days. then measure, notice that the pad is flatter)

The fat pad is not the same as the fat belly that fat people have. EVERYONE has a fat pat above the penis.

cold feet and hands.

Do some cardiovascular training. (IE walking, running, jogging, at 80% of your maximum heart rate. Try to stay around 160 beats per minute (depending on age). Train at least 3 times a week for 3 - 6 weeks. You should notice a change. (I always had cold hands and feet)

If your thyroid does turn out to be low, take lots of iodine for a few months. Iodine feeds the thryoid. Try that before getting stuck on medication.

There is a simple thyroid test. I will find and post it if anyone wants.