Mixed Reviews on PE

I think you need to read your first paragraph again!

To have anyone, you must have some, otherwise you just have one.

Oh and do have a look at your question "Why would anyone want to subject themselves" Do I detect a singular and plural there?

Go ahead and argue. I see no point in continuing this discussion

Penismith—thanks for posting those B-Ball threads.. I read through all 60+ pages that it’s currently up to and just wow..

I already had a negative view of surgery—but it’s even more so now. Based on all the feedback there, it appears that many doctors are just butchers! I feel sorry for the guy that started with a 5” wang and 60k usd, 1 bad enlargment surgery and several ‘corrective’ surgeries later he’s got a tiny 1.5” deformed wang.

People talk about the dangers of PE/ and injuring yourself, but honestly, getting surgery seems to be the most ‘real’ danger—since it appears only a few people actually make good gains from surgery without severe, and very harmful side effects—or perhaps all those happy people(who knows?—do lots of happy post-op Phalloplasty people exist?)—at least few are posting here on this forum.

It appears to me that most people lose erect length from the surgery and have to correct it with hanging. (So why not bypass the whole surgery thing.)

I tried to get the thread back on track with my post. I suggest you do the same, with something that actually has to do with the thread originator’s intent.

:)

And the originator’s question (short version)

Ok—please don’t read too much into what I’m saying here (I’m sure we could go way off topic again if someone did), but do you think he’s asking for before/ after Penis pics? Or is a personal story, like Bib’s ‘concrete’ enough? I suppose only the author can answer that.

Here’s one example of a guy (westsidetoni) that gained 2" in 6 months:

Many, many pics included
My gains (start 1-1-2007)

I hope this helps!

We can’t offer him strong evidence. To do so would require the presentation of a peer reviewed study demonstrating success with statistical significance. We can offer reasonable arguments but we can’t, at this point, use logic to demonstrate the efficacy of PE. It’s that simple.

Bib offered nothing but words and a gadget. Its not evidence, its faith.

So, he tries it or he doesn’t.

I have proved the effectiveness of PE to myself. That is all that any of us can do now.

Perfect.

Thanks! I think that honesty and clarity is how we attract the smart, diligent and creative. I have always thought it best to just tell them what we do and don’t know and to try to be objective about this as possible. When gurus arise and members fear questioning their gospel, this become little more than a cult.

Cheers.

Who among us really would consider a year of 30-60 minutes per day of playing with our penises a waste of time? At the least, erection quality and all that would be improved and with a year of commitment it’s pretty likely real gains will occur.

I don’t think anyone is too terribly interested in “proving” this works. I’d rather reduce the risk of it becoming mainstream, even though it’s doubtful it would catch on in the US at least since most people have no will to commit even 30-60 minutes a day for a year to something.

I am very interested in proving this works. I want every man who thinks that his penis size is making him depressed to realize that life just plain sucks.

That is, until you figure out how to find true happiness.

:O :O

How will that help anyone? :)

I think I understand the point. You want to use the information to help others. One way is to take notes from these people who are demanding proof and figure out how to satisfy that. Maybe break it down into a list of items that would meet these “proof” requirements.

Well said. Life can suck with a big penis, or with a penis that is not big. Having (or buidling) a big penis does not change that.

You have to read the sentence that I wrote next! :)

Having a big penis wont make you happy. Finding meaning in your life will. PE can be healthy and fun but don’t attach happiness to gains. Think of it as body building. Your fine without big muscles. Big muscles won’t make you happy. But, if you want big muscles, go for it. In a safe way of course but go for it. Both great hobbies that I have found therapeutic and relaxing at times. When I feel that I have contributed to something good is when I feel happy.

Cheers. :)

Very well spoken.