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Mixed Reviews on PE

You know what? The pictures are the only proof I need, also before I was a member I read some success stories on this site! That inspired me!! SO even though I’m new I am sure that it has to work, plus doctors might only say that surgery is the only way to permanently increase penis size, but if you think about it they might just want you to have the surgery because it’s so freaking expensive, and they want the money. Go to the homepage and read the Collected wisdom from vets and good gainers, it’s good reading material. ^_^ It’s under recent articles!


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Originally Posted by Lampwick
“too conclusive and subject to suspicion” were the words you used earllier, BeaverCreek. Why would anyone want to subject themselves to the suspicion of having been found to be too conclusive?


I believe Beavercreek originaly said after he mentioned the number of 8x6’s that “a few” would be too conclusive.

You have changed ‘a few 8x6’s’ to ‘people’ which is not what BC mentioned.


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Last edited by petitfaun : 06-19-2008 at .

I think it lasts.

But even if it didn’t: If you train to run a 4 minute mile, you have to keep doing at least some training to keep in shape.

Pulling on my dick a few times a week is something I do anyway, why not pull on a really big one instead?


Sept. 4, '07: BPEL 6.875 inches, EG widest 5.25

Goal: Double digits

Originally Posted by petitfaun
I believe Beavercreek originaly said after he mentioned the number of 8x6’s that “a few” would be too conclusive.

You have changed ‘a few 8x6’s’ to ‘people’ which is not what BC mentioned.

It wasn’t after. It was in the original post.

This is BeaverCreek’s original post:
BeaverCreek - Mixed Reviews on PE

Originally Posted by BeaverCreek
I would guess a few 8 x 6’s might be too conclusive and subject to suspicion. PE can be a lot like UFOs.

My posts Lampwick - Mixed Reviews on PE , Lampwick - Mixed Reviews on PE and Lampwick - Mixed Reviews on PE do not change ‘a few 8x6’s” to ‘people’ anywhere. Where are you getting THAT from?

My most recent post was

Originally Posted by Lampwick
“too conclusive and subject to suspicion” were the words you used earllier, BeaverCreek. Why would anyone want to subject themselves to the suspicion of having been found to be too conclusive?


For Lampwick, becoming hung like a donkey was the result of a total commitment.

For me, it lasts. I have gone periods of over a year w/o PE. Maybe longer, I lost track. I have kept most but not all of what I have gained.

What is nice, is that it is a lot easier to recover lost gains than to get them in the first place.

Hmm, same is true with body building. This is strong evidence for the fasica stretching theory of PE.

Good point, PS.

Originally Posted by Para-Goomba
Good point, PS.

Thanks.

I know that body builders do fascia stretching exercises but I wonder if there any drugs, taken orally or locally, that facilitate the stretching. I remember looking into this a few years back and not finding anything but I didn’t look long and there might be something new.


Last edited by penismith : 06-20-2008 at .

I’ve heavily researched the surgical options.. And honestly, they are horrible.. Most people are disappointed with the results as well.

And if you read the fine print, there’s no surgery that openly claims to increase ERECT penis size.. They only really help with 1/2” flaccid gains.

On the other hand, there’s thousands of people on this and other forums that have made gains of 1.5” and more.. Without paying a penny to a doctor.. And they (as already said a thousand times) have nothing to gain by helping you.

Originally Posted by blink2000
I’ve heavily researched the surgical options.. And honestly, they are horrible.. Most people are disappointed with the results as well.

And if you read the fine print, there’s no surgery that openly claims to increase ERECT penis size.. They only really help with 1/2” flaccid gains.

On the other hand, there’s thousands of people on this and other forums that have made gains of 1.5” and more.. Without paying a penny to a doctor.. And they (as already said a thousand times) have nothing to gain by helping you.

I agree that surgery is a terrible option. Anyone considering surgery should read the following thread:

- 8-Ball’s surgery progress picture thread

What a terrible experience!

Originally Posted by penismith
Thanks.

I know that body builders do fascia stretching exercises but I wonder if there any drugs, taken orally or locally, that facilitate the stretching. I remember looking into this a few years back and not finding anything but I didn’t look long and there might be something new.

PGE-1

Shiver - Stretching Fascia—Another BB analogy

Starting to tie in with that big Chemical PE thread that I have to finish. :-k

Originally Posted by Lampwick
It wasn’t after. It was in the original post.

This is BeaverCreek’s original post:
BeaverCreek - Mixed Reviews on PE
My posts Lampwick - Mixed Reviews on PE , Lampwick - Mixed Reviews on PE and Lampwick - Mixed Reviews on PE do not change ‘a few 8x6’s” to ‘people’ anywhere. Where are you getting THAT from?

My most recent post was


Oh Dear.

You brought in the word ‘anyone’. Anyone means people. But people were not in the original post it was just 8x6’s
Enough has been written about it.


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Well, I read the article you linked to about

Originally Posted by penismith
PGE-1


PGE-1 It is quite fascinating.. I see it has some potential with PE as well.. I just wonder if there’s any horrible side effects or required PCT (post cycle treatment).

Chemicals can be scary—a friend of a friend took heavy androstene doses while bodybuilding to make the local college football team (a division 1 team). He made some pretty massive muscle gains.. He didn’t do any ‘PCT” (as they call it, post cycle treatment), and now.. A few years later he’s getting a pair of breasts (‘bitch tits’) removed. Apparently, in some ways, indirect sources of testosterone, like androstene are potentially more harmful than direct sources like steroids. The reason is, androstene remained in the bodybuilders system, and large quantities were converted into estrogen instead of testosterone.

Originally Posted by petitfaun

Oh Dear.

You brought in the word ‘anyone’. Anyone means people. But people were not in the original post it was just 8x6’s

Enough has been written about it.

You misrepresented what I wrote, Petitfaun, when you wrote

Originally Posted by Petitfaun
You have changed ‘a few 8x6’s’ to ‘people’ which is not what BC mentioned.

So, your explanation tacitly concedes that I did not change ‘a few 8x6’s’ to people. Thank you. If you drew a false equivalence between ‘anyone’ and ‘people’, as you did above, that is your error, not any change I made.

In point of fact, anyone does NOT equal people. ‘Anyone’ is singular. AnyONE. Check out http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/anyone if you doubt this.

People, on the other hand, is plural. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/people .

I was trying to explore BeaverCreek’s concept , which I will cite accurately and in its totality (BeaverCreek - Mixed Reviews on PE):

Originally Posted by BeaverCreek
I would guess a few 8 x 6’s might be too conclusive and subject to suspicion. PE can be a lot like UFOs.

I asked:

Originally Posted by Lampwick
“too conclusive and subject to suspicion” were the words you used earllier, BeaverCreek. Why would anyone want to subject themselves to the suspicion of having been found to be too conclusive?

Should I ever be tempted to post pictures (whether I reach 8x6 or not), I want to know how to avoid the error of being “too conclusive and subject to suspicion” (and the error of being unconvincing as well).

And while the angels are dancing around the head of a pin about singular and plural nouns, my earlier question still stands unanswered: Why would anyone want to subject themselves to the suspicion of having been found to be too conclusive?

The larger point, which I made in this post: Lampwick - Big gainer Pictures is this:

Originally Posted by Lampwick
Whenever ‘proof’ comes up, there are always skeptics. There is even a thread here in play at the moment (Mixed Reviews on PE) where one of the posters wrote, believe it or not, “I would guess a few 8 x 6’s might be too conclusive and subject to suspicion.” So if you provide rock solid conclusive proof, that in itself is apparently suspicious. How can you win at that game?

The way you win at that game is for you to play YOUR game, not someone else’s game. Don’t depend on photos of someone else’s 4.5” gains for inspiration or motivation. Just know that gains are possible (but you already know that), and keep your ears open for techniques that can help you safely gain more. And if you never gain another inch, you’ve already gained an inch more than you had. As the television ad for the credit card says, “Priceless.”

And THAT is to the point of the thread originator, Dave22, who wrote:

Originally Posted by dave22
Basically I’m looking for some reassurance and some concrete evidence that this does work.

Photos can be faked. Measurements can be inaccurate or misrepresented. There is tons of anecdotal evidence here that PE works, and the point has been made before that a tremendous amount of time and energy has been invested in the subject here, with no one having to pay a dime for it.

So, there might just be something to PE, Dave22. You may get the reassurance from reading all the experiences from members here. But ultimately, you will have the concrete evidence you desire when you do it and it works for you.


For Lampwick, becoming hung like a donkey was the result of a total commitment.

Originally Posted by blink2000
Well, I read the article you linked to about

PGE-1 It is quite fascinating.. I see it has some potential with PE as well.. I just wonder if there’s any horrible side effects or required PCT (post cycle treatment).

Chemicals can be scary—a friend of a friend took heavy androstene doses while bodybuilding to make the local college football team (a division 1 team). He made some pretty massive muscle gains.. He didn’t do any ‘PCT” (as they call it, post cycle treatment), and now.. A few years later he’s getting a pair of breasts (‘bitch tits’) removed. Apparently, in some ways, indirect sources of testosterone, like androstene are potentially more harmful than direct sources like steroids. The reason is, androstene remained in the bodybuilders system, and large quantities were converted into estrogen instead of testosterone.

Good concerns!

I should point out that I am a theory guy and not a practice guy. Although my penis isn’t huge, I don’t have much interest in enlarging it anymore. However, I am still fascinated with the science behind PE. I don’t think that anyone should experiment with chemical PE. Not until real studies have been done. Who the heck knows what might happen. Will the prostrate grow at the same rate as the penis? If so, one might find themselves in a world of hurt.

Hey Dave22,

Welcome to the forum. PE does not have to be very time consuming. In fact, it shouldn’t be for a newbie. Over the course of 3 months, you might start out at 15 minutes per day, 5 days per week, and slowly increase to 45 minutes to an hour. Most people spend more time on the treadmill.

As for whether it works, I can only say it has worked for me. I think you will also gather, after reading the hundreds of posts from guys here who have been eager, then frustrated, and ultimately successful in achieving gains, that there must be something to all this.

Personally, I gained about 0.5” length and 0.5 or 0.6” girth my first 3 months out. Then gains came to a crashing halt. I’ve wrestled with different routines, some unsuccessful and a waste of time, other surprisingly effective, and have managed to put on another 0.6 x 0.5”. It’s been a long haul for me—4 years. At this point, I’m quite happy and am not even sure I would like to gain any more.

I’ve only PE’ed on and off, and haven’t wasted buckets of time on it (except for hanging). I suspect you will gain something, maybe a lot, and there’s really nothing to lose from trying. Just be careful to avoid injuries (which are usually minor at this stage of the game).


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