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Limit reached, or can there be more?

I’ve been doing PE for a little over a year and a half now. As with most others on this site, I had excellent newbie results doing nothing but the newbie routine. Over the first several months of doing PE I gained a little over an inch in length and 3/8” in girth. Shortly after the first 3 months I managed to add on another 1/4“ length and 1/8” girth. Overall I gained 1 3/8” length and 1/2” girth in around 4 months, which I am very happy about. (My stats show that I’ve gained 1.5 inches in length but I’ve only been able to get that measurement a couple of times with an EQ of about 98%)

Since my initial gains I have had absolutely no gains whatsoever. I’ve tried hanging, various manual exercises, taking a decon break, going back to the newbie routine, and clamping for the last 3 months. I’m curious if there are any men here who have had similar results as I, but eventually started gaining again after long periods of no growth.

I must admit that I’m quite addicted to PE (and I really seem to like clamping), but I’m wondering if maybe I’ve reached my limits and there is no more to gain. I’d like to think that I can gain more but I kind of feel like I’m wasting my time regardless of how much pleasure I get while doing PE.


Wish I knew this when I was a young man! I can no longer accept the things I cannot change. It’s time to change the things I cannot accept!

My Story: Losing And Regaining My Confidence

Starting Stats: BPEL: 4.875" EG: 5.0" FL: 3" FG: 4.25 | 02/01/2013: BPEL: 5.875" EG: 5.375" FL: 3.5" FG: 4.25" | 05/11/2013: BPEL: 6.25" EG: 5.438" FL: 4.5" FG: 4.5" | 07/28/2013: BPEL: 6.25" EG: 5.5" FL: 5.0" FG: 4.625" | 09/17/2013: BPEL: 6.375" EG: 5.5" FL: 5.0" FG: 4.750"

Originally Posted by DoinThisForMe
I’ve been doing PE for a little over a year and a half now. As with most others on this site, I had excellent newbie results doing nothing but the newbie routine. Over the first several months of doing PE I gained a little over an inch in length and 3/8” in girth. Shortly after the first 3 months I managed to add on another 1/4“ length and 1/8” girth. Overall I gained 1 3/8” length and 1/2” girth in around 4 months, which I am very happy about. (My stats show that I’ve gained 1.5 inches in length but I’ve only been able to get that measurement a couple of times with an EQ of about 98%)

Since my initial gains I have had absolutely no gains whatsoever. I’ve tried hanging, various manual exercises, taking a decon break, going back to the newbie routine, and clamping for the last 3 months. I’m curious if there are any men here who have had similar results as I, but eventually started gaining again after long periods of no growth.

I must admit that I’m quite addicted to PE (and I really seem to like clamping), but I’m wondering if maybe I’ve reached my limits and there is no more to gain. I’d like to think that I can gain more but I kind of feel like I’m wasting my time regardless of how much pleasure I get while doing PE.


If you kept hanging correctly you would break through whatever plateau. Impressive gaining record… And I know what you mean with being an PE addict, I miss jelqing with all my heart. We probably PE to your subconscious lol. But trust me on hanging dawg. Where are you at right now?


BPEL: 8.35"/ NBPEL:7.0" /EG: Apprx. 5.5"

TonyThaTyga, I tried hanging for 4 months, up to 13 pounds for 3 sets of 20 minutes, 7 days a week. Seriously thought I’d see some good results but only ended up with a lot of discoloration. Absolutely no gains at all. Not too clear on what you mean by hanging correctly, I followed instructions that I found on this site. I was pretty inspired after reading many of the posts about hanging and thought I could benefit from it. It was pretty addictive as well but so time consuming. I had to get up at 4 AM just to get my hanging sessions in. No time at night to do it. I do all my PE routines early in the morning.

My current stats are 6.25” BPEL and 5.5” EG. I would love to make it to the magic 8 X 6 but think I’d be happy with 7 X 6. Not sure my wife could handle much more than that so i don’t want to make it uncomfortable for her.

Thanks for the encouragement.


Wish I knew this when I was a young man! I can no longer accept the things I cannot change. It’s time to change the things I cannot accept!

My Story: Losing And Regaining My Confidence

Starting Stats: BPEL: 4.875" EG: 5.0" FL: 3" FG: 4.25 | 02/01/2013: BPEL: 5.875" EG: 5.375" FL: 3.5" FG: 4.25" | 05/11/2013: BPEL: 6.25" EG: 5.438" FL: 4.5" FG: 4.5" | 07/28/2013: BPEL: 6.25" EG: 5.5" FL: 5.0" FG: 4.625" | 09/17/2013: BPEL: 6.375" EG: 5.5" FL: 5.0" FG: 4.750"

Hey man. My progress is exactly like yours. From previous stats to current stats.
I gained mine in a few months time and have only been hanging for a while.
I think it’s possible you may be doing your hanging wrong. Try targeting the ligs instead of the tunica by hanging in a BTC angle.
I’ve only been doing BTCs for the past week and a half and already I’m noticing thickening at the base.

As far as the thread title “limit reached” though. I think I may have a problem.
See I’m 5’3 and I’m assuming I don’t have much ligs to start with unlike bigger guys so I’ll probably only get 1/2 to 3/4 inch out of my ligs before I should start targeting my tunica.

I’m an old school hanger. Back in the day the rule of thumb was a minimum of 10 hours/week in the hanger. If you hang less than that but increase the weight you are simply improving your ability to hang heavier weights of your unit. I am sure that guys have in fact gained hanging less than 10/week. But I expect that my old rule of thumb does apply in your case.

I’m a big hanging fan but it isn’t right for everyone. It is more time intensive that other methods and requires privacy. Getting up at 4am shows that you have the borderline OCD dedication that is the key to success for many PEers. But where hanging really shines is guys with a home office that spend hours a day in front of their computer. That allows for effectively hanging in zero time. If you can’t swing 10 hours a week and the ocassional day of perhaps hanging isn’t the best for you right now. See below.

Deconditioning break: You made amazing gains then they stopped. Perhaps your unit simply toughened up? I am a lazy bastard so I am supplying no links to the best threads on deconditioning. Other guys will give the same advice and hopefully some of them actually give a link. I’m pretty sure we have a thread specifically on that topic. Lots of guys in your situation have recaptured the magick by taking some months off to reset your penises tollerence to stress. Then when they restart they gain again.


Running a Massive Co-Front.

how long did you decon for? I think if you use too high force before a decon start, It should last longer than you think, (for the tissue to recover and regain the thickness) I mean It could be that you haven’t completely recovered, therefore when you start again you will soonly hit another plataeu. hope you understand what I mean, my english is like crap. lol

One more point, you said that you only archived 98% of EQ several times, which mean your EQ is not high all the time, It could be a sign you have been slightly overtrained. hey bro those are just my assumption, because I am no expert, have you read the PIs thread? do you think my above assumptions fit with your experience?

Originally Posted by overdoseads
how long did you decon for? I think if you use too high force before a decon start, It should last longer than you think, (for the tissue to recover and regain the thickness)

That.

You did say that you had decond but not for how long. Many people take a few weeks or a month of and think it is enough. It usually is not.


Running a Massive Co-Front.

Going for a long break should solve the problem.

Have you tryed pumping?

Originally Posted by DoinThisForMe
TonyThaTyga, I tried hanging for 4 months, up to 13 pounds for 3 sets of 20 minutes, 7 days a week. Seriously thought I’d see some good results but only ended up with a lot of discoloration. Absolutely no gains at all. Not too clear on what you mean by hanging correctly, I followed instructions that I found on this site. I was pretty inspired after reading many of the posts about hanging and thought I could benefit from it. It was pretty addictive as well but so time consuming. I had to get up at 4 AM just to get my hanging sessions in. No time at night to do it. I do all my PE routines early in the morning.

My current stats are 6.25” BPEL and 5.5” EG. I would love to make it to the magic 8 X 6 but think I’d be happy with 7 X 6. Not sure my wife could handle much more than that so i don’t want to make it uncomfortable for her.

Thanks for the encouragement.


oh my god. Well i’m absolutely sure hanging is effective… Because I had a dream it was…. Could be an instigation of karma, but perhaps, you can’t get ripped benching 135lbs for a year? Going to ask a few questions for multiple reasons…. Did you stayed at 13lbs the whole time? Did you do it everyday?


BPEL: 8.35"/ NBPEL:7.0" /EG: Apprx. 5.5"

Originally Posted by iamaru
I’m an old school hanger. Back in the day the rule of thumb was a minimum of 10 hours/week in the hanger. If you hang less than that but increase the weight you are simply improving your ability to hang heavier weights of your unit. I am sure that guys have in fact gained hanging less than 10/week. But I expect that my old rule of thumb does apply in your case.

I’m a big hanging fan but it isn’t right for everyone. It is more time intensive that other methods and requires privacy. Getting up at 4am shows that you have the borderline OCD dedication that is the key to success for many PEers. But where hanging really shines is guys with a home office that spend hours a day in front of their computer. That allows for effectively hanging in zero time. If you can’t swing 10 hours a week and the ocassional day of perhaps hanging isn’t the best for you right now. See below.

Deconditioning break: You made amazing gains then they stopped. Perhaps your unit simply toughened up? I am a lazy bastard so I am supplying no links to the best threads on deconditioning. Other guys will give the same advice and hopefully some of them actually give a link. I’m pretty sure we have a thread specifically on that topic. Lots of guys in your situation have recaptured the magick by taking some months off to reset your penises tollerence to stress. Then when they restart they gain again.


I only hang for 7 :( an hour a day. Kind of heavy weights to. Are you suggesting that gains are harder to achieve if you hang heavier weights for shorter periods of time?


BPEL: 8.35"/ NBPEL:7.0" /EG: Apprx. 5.5"

Originally Posted by NoidDaBest33
Hey man. My progress is exactly like yours. From previous stats to current stats.
I gained mine in a few months time and have only been hanging for a while.
I think it’s possible you may be doing your hanging wrong. Try targeting the ligs instead of the tunica by hanging in a BTC angle.
I’ve only been doing BTCs for the past week and a half and already I’m noticing thickening at the base.

When I was hanging I was doing straight down and BTC only so I don’t think that will help. Thanks very much for the suggestion though.

Originally Posted by iamaru
Getting up at 4am shows that you have the borderline OCD dedication that is the key to success for many PEers. But where hanging really shines is guys with a home office that spend hours a day in front of their computer. That allows for effectively hanging in zero time. If you can’t swing 10 hours a week and the ocassional day of perhaps hanging isn’t the best for you right now.

I am a lazy bastard so I am supplying no links to the best threads on deconditioning. Lots of guys in your situation have recaptured the magick by taking some months off to reset your penises tollerence to stress.

You could probably say I’m a bit fanatical about it, and I do have a few OCD issues :) . Unfortunately I do not have an office at home where I can hang. I do work from home occasionally but I still have one kid living here. Guess I could try that once he starts back to school, if I start hanging again. At this moment I’m not really considering that as an option, but that could always change. I have read many of the threads on decon breaks, lot’s of differing opinions as to whether or not it actually helps. When I took my break it was for 2 months. Maybe I need a 6 month break but I think that would be difficult for me to do, being as I’m somewhat addicted to it. LOL. Thanks for the suggestions.

Originally Posted by overdoseads
how long did you decon for? I think if you use too high force before a decon start, It should last longer than you think, (for the tissue to recover and regain the thickness) I mean It could be that you haven’t completely recovered, therefore when you start again you will soonly hit another plataeu. hope you understand what I mean, my english is like crap. lol

One more point, you said that you only archived 98% of EQ several times, which mean your EQ is not high all the time, It could be a sign you have been slightly overtrained. hey bro those are just my assumption, because I am no expert, have you read the PIs thread? do you think my above assumptions fit with your experience?

My decon break was for 2 months. Your English is quite good and thanks for replying. As far as my EQ, I don’t really have a hard time (no pun intended) getting good wood, unless I’m working up a woody for a measurement. I tend to be a bit ruler shy. My PI’s are good and I’m quite happy about that but I do sometimes wonder if I’m over training. Many guys on this site subscribe to the “less is more” concept. I’ve always been a “more is more” kind of guy. I may try backing off a bit and see if that brings better results. Thanks for the suggestions.

Originally Posted by Burg
Have you tryed pumping?

Currently I’m not too keen on the idea of pumping and most of the posts I’ve read state that the gains are temporary at best. I’m not ruling anything out though so I may give it a try at some point. Thanks for the idea.

Originally Posted by TonyThaTyga
Well i’m absolutely sure hanging is effective… Because I had a dream it was.

Did you stayed at 13lbs the whole time? Did you do it everyday?

LOL, I also put a lot of stock in my dreams. I’ve often dreamed the solutions for problems I’ve had in life and with work. Funny how that works sometimes. As far as hanging, I did hang for an hour every day (3 - 20 minute sessions with a 10 minute break between sessions). I started out at 2 pounds and worked my way up from there. I had been hanging 13 pounds for about 3 weeks or so when I gave it up. I was very surprised that I didn’t see any results. I read a lot of the forums on hanging and I think I was doing everything right. I also tried a little fulcrum hanging. I did see one forum post just before I quit hanging that interested me. The poster suggested that rather than just hanging the same weight all the way through the session and keeping that weight for each session, to start with say 8 pounds at the beginning of the session and gradually increase the weight throughout the session. I have to admit, his idea made sense to me. He suggested that a gradual stretch would have a better affect and that hanging your max weight would just strengthen your penis. I’ve seen a few posts that suggest the same idea for manual stretching. If I ever do go back to hanging, I’ll probably put that to the test.

Thanks to everyone who has replied to this thread. Sometimes a little encouragement is all it takes to keep a positive attitude. I’m currently doing TNTJocky’s method of clamping (most of it anyways, my wife is not interested in helping). He did a 6 week on, 2 week off routine. I’m just starting my third 2 week off break. Not sure how long I’ll keep this up. I think that if I don’t see any results after the next 6 week stretch, I’ll give something else a try.


Wish I knew this when I was a young man! I can no longer accept the things I cannot change. It’s time to change the things I cannot accept!

My Story: Losing And Regaining My Confidence

Starting Stats: BPEL: 4.875" EG: 5.0" FL: 3" FG: 4.25 | 02/01/2013: BPEL: 5.875" EG: 5.375" FL: 3.5" FG: 4.25" | 05/11/2013: BPEL: 6.25" EG: 5.438" FL: 4.5" FG: 4.5" | 07/28/2013: BPEL: 6.25" EG: 5.5" FL: 5.0" FG: 4.625" | 09/17/2013: BPEL: 6.375" EG: 5.5" FL: 5.0" FG: 4.750"

Originally Posted by DoinThisForMe
When I was hanging I was doing straight down and BTC only so I don’t think that will help. Thanks very much for the suggestion though.

You could probably say I’m a bit fanatical about it, and I do have a few OCD issues :) . Unfortunately I do not have an office at home where I can hang. I do work from home occasionally but I still have one kid living here. Guess I could try that once he starts back to school, if I start hanging again. At this moment I’m not really considering that as an option, but that could always change. I have read many of the threads on decon breaks, lot’s of differing opinions as to whether or not it actually helps. When I took my break it was for 2 months. Maybe I need a 6 month break but I think that would be difficult for me to do, being as I’m somewhat addicted to it. LOL. Thanks for the suggestions.

My decon break was for 2 months. Your English is quite good and thanks for replying. As far as my EQ, I don’t really have a hard time (no pun intended) getting good wood, unless I’m working up a woody for a measurement. I tend to be a bit ruler shy. My PI’s are good and I’m quite happy about that but I do sometimes wonder if I’m over training. Many guys on this site subscribe to the “less is more” concept. I’ve always been a “more is more” kind of guy. I may try backing off a bit and see if that brings better results. Thanks for the suggestions.

Currently I’m not too keen on the idea of pumping and most of the posts I’ve read state that the gains are temporary at best. I’m not ruling anything out though so I may give it a try at some point. Thanks for the idea.

LOL, I also put a lot of stock in my dreams. I’ve often dreamed the solutions for problems I’ve had in life and with work. Funny how that works sometimes. As far as hanging, I did hang for an hour every day (3 - 20 minute sessions with a 10 minute break between sessions). I started out at 2 pounds and worked my way up from there. I had been hanging 13 pounds for about 3 weeks or so when I gave it up. I was very surprised that I didn’t see any results. I read a lot of the forums on hanging and I think I was doing everything right. I also tried a little fulcrum hanging. I did see one forum post just before I quit hanging that interested me. The poster suggested that rather than just hanging the same weight all the way through the session and keeping that weight for each session, to start with say 8 pounds at the beginning of the session and gradually increase the weight throughout the session. I have to admit, his idea made sense to me. He suggested that a gradual stretch would have a better affect and that hanging your max weight would just strengthen your penis. I’ve seen a few posts that suggest the same idea for manual stretching. If I ever do go back to hanging, I’ll probably put that to the test.

Thanks to everyone who has replied to this thread. Sometimes a little encouragement is all it takes to keep a positive attitude. I’m currently doing TNTJocky’s method of clamping (most of it anyways, my wife is not interested in helping). He did a 6 week on, 2 week off routine. I’m just starting my third 2 week off break. Not sure how long I’ll keep this up. I think that if I don’t see any results after the next 6 week stretch, I’ll give something else a try.


:/… Ite man good luck. Hope I don’t see the same results.


BPEL: 8.35"/ NBPEL:7.0" /EG: Apprx. 5.5"

Fulcrums. bundled hanging/stretching. Hanger attached to base.

Pumping. Edging and prolonged errections.

More time under force.

Switching everything totally up. Doing whats most uncomfortable/disliked for you.

warm up / cool down.

Originally Posted by dickerschwanz
Fulcrums. bundled hanging/stretching. Hanger attached to base.
Pumping. Edging and prolonged errections.
More time under force.
Switching everything totally up. Doing whats most uncomfortable/disliked for you.
warm up / cool down.

I’ve done some bundled stretching before, not quite sure I’m willing to try bundled hanging though. Sounds dangerous. When I did hang, I was attaching about an inch below the glans, haven’t heard of hanging from the base before. I’ll do a little research on that one.

I do edge for long periods of time fairly regularly and I doubt I’ll be stopping that any time soon. It seems to really help with my stamina.

Switching everything totally up definitely has piqued my interest though. I regularly exercise at the gym and am well aware that if you target different muscles, rather than routinely doing the same exercises every time, you’ll get the best results. I wonder what would happen if I were to clamp one day, hang the next time, jelq next, manual stretch after that, etc., if I would see some results. Seems logical, based upon what I know about physical exercise. I don’t recall reading any threads here at TP about this. Has anyone here tried this before and seen positive results?


Wish I knew this when I was a young man! I can no longer accept the things I cannot change. It’s time to change the things I cannot accept!

My Story: Losing And Regaining My Confidence

Starting Stats: BPEL: 4.875" EG: 5.0" FL: 3" FG: 4.25 | 02/01/2013: BPEL: 5.875" EG: 5.375" FL: 3.5" FG: 4.25" | 05/11/2013: BPEL: 6.25" EG: 5.438" FL: 4.5" FG: 4.5" | 07/28/2013: BPEL: 6.25" EG: 5.5" FL: 5.0" FG: 4.625" | 09/17/2013: BPEL: 6.375" EG: 5.5" FL: 5.0" FG: 4.750"

I had the success you did. You reached a plateau. Plateaus are caused because of too much trauma to your unit. We must understand, when we PE, we are alway puting trauma on our
units to up it up on the exercises to fast and not easing into increasing will cause this. I have mentioned this before (many times), you must be conditioned to start the more advanced exercises, Right, but at the same time when doing the more advanced exercises, you must be conditioned for those as well to step it up a notch.

My exercises were extreme, but I never plateaued, because I PE’d 6 weeks on and 2 weeks off. My decons worked wonders for me. The 2 week off gave my unit a chance to heal and when I resumed PEing I had a fresh healthy unit to work with. My wife and I too were addicted to PEing. My exercise just consisted of clamping.

Getting out of a plateau takes time, a lot of time. I have had friends here that had to take decon breaks for months because they plateaued. My advice to you is if you do take an extended break it to do the piss pull every time you urinate, just so you do not loose any gains. I haven’t PE’d in years, but I still do the piss pull every time I urinate. I have gained over the years just doing the piss pull.

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