Originally Posted by mypseudonym
I think you have a point here. It’s pretty clear that one couldn’t embark on a 20 year journey with the same routine and time mapped out and continue to see results. I don’t think anybody here is suggesting that would work. As with any routine, you have to keep it fresh, take breaks from it, etc.I think you’re forgetting a key aspect when it comes to gains in general. Gains don’t necessarily have to come from only one exercise. Gains can be brought about using a hanger, an ADS, manual stretches, clamping, pumping, jelqing, and more. In reality, there are enough exercises to cross train for a very long time. Even if I was embarking on only a 2 year routine/plan, I wouldn’t stick with an exercise that would unnecessarily eat loads of time when I can just switch the exercise, get some gains from that, and then cycle back around. I’m really not a supporter of the idea of being a pumper, hanger, etc. for years at a time when the loads/time become insane. The body is just too darn smart to listen to the same exercise unless you keep pushing the envelope to the point where you could cause serious injury, not to mention waste a lot of time forcing the issue when all you need is a change. Anybody who has trained their mind or body understands the concept of cross training in order to achieve the best overall results. I think it would be especially important for somebody embarking on a 20 year PE journey.
My point is very simple. Some people obviously believe that gains can keep on coming with 15-30 minutes a day. That simply is not the case, no matter the exercise.
When we’re talking about length, there’s pretty much only one mechanism*, and that is stretching (which can be achieved manually or with weights). Variables are intensity (or weight), duration, angle and fulcrums.
This thread is called “life of gains” so we’re talking about lifelong PE and using 10-20 years for sake of simplicity. After significant gains have been made (let’s say over 1.5” of length), you simply can’t gain with only 15-30 minutes a day, no matter how many variations you try to “surprise” your penis. I’m still waiting for evidence. If 1, 2 or 5 guys actually manage to do something like that, they’re an exception to the rule. You can’t gain forever, especially not with light/short routines. Also, you’re talking about ADS/extender. They have to be worn up to 10-12 hours a day for significant (but still limited) results. That’s major dedication and outside of 15-30 minutes realm. It’s easier to do 1-2 hours of PE routine than wear an extender for 10-12 hours.
* Of course, people can gain length with clamping or pumping, but it’s almost impossible to use those methods as main length exercises, especially when we’re talking about significant length gains.