Just Started Newbie Routine.Questions

Last night was my first time trying PE. I did the newbie routine and I have some concerns/questions.

During jelqing I lose my partial erection quite easily. Partly because I kept having to apply more Vaseline (I’m using a Vaseline/olive oil mix) Any pointers?
Also during jelqing I sometimes could see my blood go up my shaft but most the time I did not see it or feel like anything was happening. Maybe I wasn’t erect enough and/or squeezing hard enough?
I have read that a tight squeeze is what is required to jelq but like I just mentioned, I do not know if I was squeezing hard enough.

How much pressure do I apply during the stretches? I was tugging it fairly hard but not to where it would hurt. I didn’t feel like it was doing all that much.

I read that when doing kegels, you tighten the muscle that makes you stop peeing/make your penis move up without using your stomach/anus muscles but its almost impossible for me not to.

I did not see any swelling whatsoever when I was done. Is this because it was my first time or was I doing it wrong? I really don’t want all this effort to be for nothing.

Hopefully you guys can give me some pointers before I try it again tonight.

Hey, welcome.

You can maintain erection by kegeling a couple times during each rep until you get the erection up, or by continuing the jelq over the glans a few times to stimulate the head. You could try a different lube that lasts longer too. Can’t make any recommendations personally. If all else fails, then there’s porn, but for me that’s too much erection for good jelqing.

If you’re not erect enough, it won’t feel like much is happening because there’s not enough blood to get a buildup. It doesn’t have to be a tight squeeze if you get the right erection level. What you’re going for is that feeling of the blood pressure going up your shaft. Find the right erection level and grip to get that feeling safely and consistently each stroke. Experiment with it.

For stretching, use just enough force as necessary to stretch it out to its max length, wait a few breaths, and then pull a little harder and you should get a little more stretch out of it, wait a few more breaths. That’s it. Doesn’t feel like much but it adds up over the many workouts. Pelvic muscles should be relaxed while stretching, I.e. Relax your penis and let it stretch out. It shouldn’t hurt.

Kegels, no big deal if you can’t isolate that muscle completely.

You’ll get more post-workout ‘swelling’ when you get the jelqing down.

Thanks for the suggestions. I’ll give it a try.

Well I just tried it again. I’d say it worked out better this time. I think I felt those chambers bursting and my head was swelling at the top of the stroke and turning red with what looked like little dots. Running over the glans often helped. Still not that good though. I was still losing the erection but not as easy or for as long. I think this will be the biggest problem for me since I am constantly losing blood pressure. I did read to stand up or slouch and put my feet up to help retain blood pressure. Guess I just have to keep trying.

On a positive note I did notice a swell this time right after I was done jelqing and I went flaccid. It definitely looked and felt wider. That only lasted for about a minute though. Not sure about how long that swell is supposed to last.

I think you will get the hang of it very soon. In the beginning stretching didn’t feel good for me too, but after 2 weeks I really liked it as my penis was conditioned and I could get a good stretch.

I’m also a newbie, but I think that losing your erection during jelqing is normal. You are forcing the blood back and forth, so you would expect your erection to subside. What I do is to masturbate a bit every 24-30 strokes to get it back, and I’m getting better at retaining it. Make sure that before you release the hand that is at the base of the head your other hand is already gripping the base of the shaft with the OK grip. And when you do this, it wouldn’t hurt doing a Kegel, to force some blood back in the penis.

I’m using baby oil as lubricant and even just a small quantity, to just cover the hands (without dripping) is enough. I don’t think you’ll need to apply more than once.

Furthermore, concentration is also important for successful jelqing. When I get distracted by someone in the house when jelqing it becomes very hard to perform a good jelq.

Just had what felt like another unsuccessful session like the first time. No swell, no feeling like I did anything.

Desperato, still lost the erection during jelqing more than I should but I got it almost all the hard a few times to compensate. The grip and motion I’m pretty sure I have down. I think I need to try to switch lubes because another issue is that I have to reapply the Vaseline about 5 times. Doing a kegel when I remembered helped for a second or two but nothing significant. My second attempt was easily the best because I did get a swell for a short amount of time.

Is it possible that stretching before jelqing makes it harder to stay erect?

My goal here is to gain 1/2 an inch in length and at least a 1/4 inch in girth in the next two months. Is this realistic?

What should I be be seeing/feeling at the end of these first sessions? Is it normal to not notice any difference?

Hey Ramrod!

Yes, reapplying Vaseline 5 times must be a bit of a time waster. This should break your concentration and consequently help in the loss of your erection. And as we are beginners, it will probably make jelqing uncomfortable, when the lubricant wears off. Personally, I’m gonna try dry jelqing a little later in the year, after I feel that I’ve nailed the techniques and my penis has gone through some adaptation period.

By reading other people’s experiences, it seems that the general consensus is to do the girth exercises (Jelq-based) after the length (Stretch-based) exercises. I would like to hear a more experienced.. Member (no pun intended :P) give his opinion on this. For me, it’s also psychological. I like to see that my penis slightly engorged at the end of the session. It kinda feels like the "pump" effect after a gym session. And I don’t think you can achieve that with stretching, at least not with the beginner exercises.

One person suggested that I break my workout into two sessions, morning stretches and evening jelqs. But I don’t have the time to do that and anyway I like to do both in one good session. Perhaps this is something you could consider.

Talking from personal experience (obviously), you would expect a somewhat lengthened and engorged penis, following these sessions. But it won’t last long, at least in the beginning. Soreness is acceptable, even on the next day; pain is not. Personally while I think I have a good intensity during my workout, I don’t feel too sore. By the way, have you read Sparkyx’s thread on physiological indicators? If not have a look: Physiologic Indicators (PIs) to help growth! . It’s excellent and very valuable for PEers of all levels. In fact have a look at this thread too: START HERE ——-> NEWBIE ROUTINE <——- Important Newbie Threads/Info There’s a lot of interesting info in there. I still haven’t read everything myself.

Another thing you may notice is that your penis may seem to shrink a little after a workout. That’s ok, unless it stays like that: then you’re doing something wrong. I expect that the following morning you will have a fuller flaccid penis. If it’s not happening yet, hang in there. It will.

Hope this helps.

The main change I noticed since I started PE a few weeks ago is that the veins are much more prominent.
I’m doing my jelqs with low erection levels, by the way. I’ve read it is okay.

A little tip: When the lube wears out I put a bit of water on my cock, and the lubricant’s effect is back. No need to spend tons of lubricant.

When I jelq I use body oil and for some reason the blood creates a slight erection is that supposed to happen. Each stroke is 4-6 seconds. I also have a big question:

Will one hand increase growth when jelqing or do I have to use two hands and start from the base to the top and repeat, right now I use one hand from the base to the top and then I go to the shaft and start from the base again, will that work?

This was some really good information! I’m glad you linked the PI thread. That was useful for sure.

I think I may be under-training and I think I could be rougher. I was just afraid to cause damage but so far everything seems 100% normal. I think I’m going to pull a bit harder during stretches and squeeze harder during the jelqs. Today I’m going to buy some different lube as well. Upping the concentration level will probably help to but that’s a discipline I think I just have to learn over time.

You’ll read it often around here: PE really is a marathon. So the right mental attitude will definitely help. The sooner you’ll realise it’s a long process and you convince yourself, I believe you’ll be on your way to achieving results. I sound like a veteran here. I’m not one at all. But I’m trying to get the right attitude. If so many others have done it, why shouldn’t we?

Hi tman32. Jelqing should anyway be done with at least a 50% erection. You are forcing blood into the penile tissue so you need a level of erection. If you read around you’ll see that different erection levels seem to give different results. Lower erections appear to affect length, while fuller erections (60-80%) seem to affect girth. If you’re a newbie (like me) you should be very careful before attempting jelqs at high erection levels. I start jelqing at around 80%. It subsides after about 20 jelqs, but I bring it back up. With the right mindframe you’ll find you’ll be able to keep your erection level longer.

As to the effect of one or two hands.. I wouldn’t know. One hand jelqing is mostly used in dry jelqs, while two hands in wet jelqs. At the moment I’m only doing wet jelqs and I’m planning on doing them for a while before adding other techniques.

I think you’re right. Especially when trying to get the erection during jelqing, the right mind frame helps for sure. Today’s session was strange. I felt like I was really doing something during the jelqing. I felt and saw the blood squeeze from bottom to top and I had the duration and I the two hand technique down a little better (meaning I remembered to do both with almost every stroke). I did lose the erection 3 or 4 times but maybe for 30 seconds each and then it was back to business. After feeling like I did something, I get done and my penis does not look any different yet again. For some reason it only swelled the second time I did it.

Also, this time I did care about the time. I counted the strokes because I think that’s more important. I went to 100 this session. I may increase to 150 next time. If that doesn’t do anything do you think it would be a good idea to maybe do a 3 day on - 1 day off routine?

I have to keep the PI in mind now and see how I look tomorrow. I may be one of the people that can take a beating much better.

BTW I see you have been a member since March so that makes you more of a veteran than me. I assume you started PE about the same time. How much were your gains in the first 2 months and what routine were you using? Also what were the effects to your penis immediately after a workout and the next day? Sorry it’s a lot of questions. I appreciate any help!

No problem dude.

Erm.. I did indeed register back then.. However I only started PE on August 27. So it’s really only my 4rth week. This is my thread in which I have posted my initial measurements, ever since I started doing it properly (about 6 posts down): Finally here

If you look at my routines, I’ve only increased the intensity and added an exercise in the past 1.5 weeks. So I’m afraid we’ll both have to wait for my first results :D

I usually train at night, before going to bed. After the workout, my penis is slightly engorged for a few minutes. But not for long. Then it may shrink a bit. But the following day I can see a slightly enhanced flaccid state both in terms of length and in terms of girth (that’s nice, but it could be my brain. In any case, even if it’s only mental, it’s still positive). The important think is that the shrinkage is gone. There may be a sliiiight soreness and it’s normal not having quick erections; the penis will be a bit "tired" from exercising.