Just a small question

Hi,

Some months ago I did the newbie routine, I started of real strong and increased frequency and duration etc.

But after a while I had to skip some sessions, until I stopped entirly.

One of the reasons was also that I’m not even sure if was doing everything right, wich is required for motivation.

Anywayz, later on I started reading a bit more and stumbled on the air clamp. I ordered one from Monty.

Now I started off strong again, but also stopped, actually just because I forgot most of the time.

And now I am wondering and asking you, would it make sense to be on a tight clamping schedule ?

For example : 10-15 minutes air clamp every day (maybe some off days if you think its needed).

But I don’t wanna do anything else, not because I’m lazy, but because it’s hard to fit into my current life and I prolly won’t keep motivated for anything else.

So there is my question, no warming up, no regular PE, just air clamping and only air clamping but this time on a daily basis with no exceptions. Does it make sense or not ?

Thanks for any reply.

(Additional question about clamping: I know it shouldn’t hurt, because then you need to stop. But on the other hand, I got the feeling that the only way I’m putting enough pressure to call it PE is when it hurts a little bit ?)

No, I don’t think it makes sense.

Clamping, even with a forgiving clamp, is an advanced exercise and without having done any other form of PE, you will probably injure yourself sometime in the future. From your description, it sounds like you are on the way.

PE is something that requires dedication to work. If you are half assed about it, it just won’t. It would be much better to stop now and wait for a time when PE is more important to you, if that happens. It also takes some time and effort to figure out exactly how to do a manual routine and you appear to have given up before you gained the knowledge.

Memento,

Thanks for the reply.

I have done some other form of PE, I just wanna switch to the air clamp entirly.

And I understand it requires dedication, that’s why I wanna switch to air clamping, because I can be deticated with it (just lie there and keep it stiff while clamped is a lot easier to do for years to come, then to reserve 30-90 minutes for intensive PE.)

So if I would rephrase my question : Does it make sense to air clamp, and only air clamp, every day when done the way it should (without hurting myself) ?

To reiterate what memento just said- No it doesn’t make sense. There’s a reason that clamping is categorized as an advanced exercise. It should only be attempted after one has become well acquainted with the penis’ anatomy, one’s own limits and has been well conditioned for the more vigorous ( and potentially harmful if done improperly) exercises.)

I’d recommend developing a mind-set that will allow you to dedicate yourself to doing it right before you injure yourself.

Having tried the air clamp myself (and soon to buy again) I know how good it is to use, you seem set to do it anyway, so I will give you some advice for harm reduction purposes. DO NOT CLAMP COLD. However, if you know your penis well enough and want to do a quick session 50 or so concentrated jelqs could be enough to warm up. And without actually properly warming up (warm cloth or cup of warm water)I wouldn’t consider pumping the air clamp more than twice, you really have to be careful listen to these guys who replied above me.

I know if you have the air clamp you will use it regardless of what we say, but keep to the 10 minute rule.. No longer. And clamp isnt a replacement for jelqing, people who clamp spend probably the same amount of time jelqing, its good for circulation - penile health.

Ok guys, I really appreciate the feedback.

But Czepa is kinda right, I bought it so I’m gonna use it.

I did a lot of research/reading before I ordered it, and I concluded it should be one of the best ways for girth gains.

At the start of clamping I noticed it’s an advance exercise.

So I kinda felt the danger, and stayed around 5 min sessions.

But I got used to it, the feeling, the clamping itself and got to the point that I’m now between 10-15 minutes and thinking about several sessions a day.

I just want girth gains so bad, I know the risks of PE and I’m taking them well aware.

But when I put too much pressure, I gotta stop too soon because pain is coming.

When I put to little pressure, I got the feeling I could as well be teaching pinguins how to swim ..

So I’m always finding myself putting as much pressure without causing too early pains, lets call it the golden pressure setting ? :)

In other words, I know the dangers and not really wanna talk about them. I just wanna know if it’s possible to get decent or at least some girth gains from just air clamping (for several years).

One more thing I would like some opinions about is the fact that after a clamping session, when you release the pressure, my dick becomes flaccid right away and needs to “recover” a little.

With me being a grower and all, it really turns from clamped up giant to shriveled small. Altough it feels good, and I think its normal, isn’t there anything I could/should do ?

Thanks again, you guys are great :)

Do you mind me asking your measurements roughly? Girth work tends to hinder length gains and since my air clamp broke (one of the earlier models years ago) I’ve decided to reach my goal of 8 before concentrating on girth again, just a thought. And yes clamping gives good gains but you will probably notice the big gainers use a range of different things in their routines (namely stretching/hanging and jelqing).

When you release the clamp and it goes limp, I personally wouldn’t push it so much that it shrinks alot, just goes limp. It helps to jelq blood back in straight away and kegeling (big slow contractions not lots of small kegels). The air clamp is really good because it is so easily adjustable, and may be able to be used variably in a way similar to ‘dynamic stretching’ (forum search titles) but thats debatable and just my opinion. I just think depleting oxygen (when it goes blue) isnt essential to gains, more it is time+pressure=gains ofcoarse good circulation (jelqing) and stretching (to align and relax cells/tissue)

Thanks for that info Czepa.

I’m a big grower, I mean like the difference between erect and flaccid is so much you almost don’t believe it.

Offcourse I want a bigger flaccid for so many reasons, but erect girth is my top 1 concern / priority !

Flaccid : 3 inch length - 3,15 girth
Erect : 7 inch length - 4,33 girth

So I don’t mind if length stalls, but offcourse the more the merrier ;)

Cool it sounds like you are doing alright, I think girth will come after some work, but I think it will take more than just pumping to get girth gains. By all means take more rest days if you lack the time to do PE but I recommend following a process that you can slowly alter -so you can find what works best for you, but something good to start with would be:
5 minutes warmup in a cup of water (as warm as is still comfortable)
5-10 minutes stretching in all different directions
5-10 minutes jelq
Pumping to fatigue (sets of 10 minutes)

Then jelq more if you feel that makes things better for clamping, maybe jelq and re-warm in-between pumping sets, but find something that works well and feels good for you. My advice is to incorporate other things not just pumping. You might find stretching after the jelq/clamping feels good even.

This is just one man’s opinion, but I think you should decide if you want to commit to PE or not. If you are ready to do so, buy a big wall calendar and follow Jerry Seinfeld’s don’t-break-the-chain advice (other than rest days). If you’re serious about girth gains, really commuting to the newbie routine is your best bet IMHO. You have to condition your penis and learn how it responds to the exercises. Only when you’re 100% conditioned, you can go onto some intermediate manual exercises (uli, squeeze, o-bends). If you’ve put in the time the right way, you should see some girth gains.

Even when I thought I was pretty far along, clamping destroyed my EQ - literally had to take a 3 week break from PE and sex on two separate occasions. Now, I can clamp a lot and it only helps my EQ. I also enjoy pumping when I have the time just to feel my huge penis. That said 100% of my gains came from manual exercises and not devices.

IMHO, being lazy with PE is the same as being stupid with PE.

Well that all sounds reasonable.

Jd, do you happen to know why clamping destroyed your EQ and then later helps EQ ? It’s got me puzzled

And if 100% gains come from the manual stuff, then why should we use those devices ?

I’m not gonna try to explain the way the air pump works, but it’s got me facsinated :)

I must admit, I’m not a serious PEer like you guys. I’m a bit of a smartie pants .. I like this forum and I just try to absorb all the information that sounds usefull to me, while being a kind person around here. But then I just use all that info to make my own conclusions.

And I must admit that the manual exercises will probally be the best.
But in my current situation .. I have a baby, so when I get home at 5pm I gotta wait till she goes to sleep at 8pm. Then I want to smoke my weed asap, to play some games and also have some time with the wife (watch a movie). Now if I’m just clamping, I can do it in the couch. But if I have to warm up, jelq, etc it gets a bit much to do in the couch so then I should go upstairs where I have privacy, but then I will have the problem that I won’t be able to stick to my schedule.

I’m willing to give it another shot, but then I have a critical question about jelqing and about stretching.

Jelqing : If I do it dry it seems like I’m just pulling my skin(and hairs if not shaved)(I would love to be able to do it dry.), so I did it with lube but then I am never 100% sure I’m doing it right. How fast shall I stroke , how much pressure etc ?

Stretching : I am not circumcised, so even with a full erection I have to pull my skin to be able to stretch. So I just take the 2 farest ‘corners’ and pull as far as I can. Is that ok ?

Greetz :)

Finding the time is the biggest problem for me too. I was able to work from home for a while, which is when I really focused on PE. Those days are gone now and, from a PE perspective, I’m just thankful I had the time.

IMHO devices come into play for some guys who jumped straight in and committed to them and guys who have done manual exercises but reached a plateau and are looking for something more and targeted. Without context, too many newbies think they can just skip the important early stage and jump straight into clamping, pumping, hanging, etc. when their penises just might not be ready. I’m sure that was my issue with clamping.

My advice for newbie jelqing is to do wet jelqs with lube. Dry jelqs seem to be preferred by experienced PE’ers, but I find that wet jelqs are easier to learn. You need to apply just enough pressure to cause some swelling in your semi-erect penis and push it through the entire stroke. Think of pushing an egg (or something fragile) because too much pressure will make your penis shrink and retract. It will adjust, as will you, over time and you’ll be able to use more pressure, dry jelqs, etc. Good luck.

Yes I find dry jelq preferable (I’m un-circumcised) it get more pressure and is quicker/easier. A jelq stroke you should be aiming between 2-3 seconds more like 3.5 seconds per stroke, and as jd says, less pressure. As your penis gets stronger (it will feel different, more like rubber and stretchier) you can add more pressure and go down to 2 seconds per jelq but never quick like wanking.
Anyhow, when I dry jelq I pull my skin back first that way its not pulling the base out, IMO that causes turkey neck. STRETCHING shouldn’t be done erect, not even hanging, it wouldn’t achieve anything anyway, you want to do it flaccid and to make sure you get a good grip of the head use a tissue or piece of cloth to grab it with and hold onto tight when you stretch it (light stretches for a few months)

If you think just clamping will get gains try this quick exercise: 50 jelq, 2.1/2 minutes of stretching 30 seconds each of up, down, left, right, and straight out, then another 50 jelqs. Hell, you could even do it during/after a shower without raising any suspicion (remember to take them jelqs slow)
Compare that to 3 sets of 10 minute clamping (on a different day) and I think you will feel better and get better morning wood from the manual exercises. Then again, some minor clamping (5-10mins low pressure, no blue cock) with a warm wrap after the manual exercises would be supreme.

Conditioning is so important, poor erections are not part of gaining, learn to be sensitive with your body. I hope you find something that works well for you and fits into your schedule, but remember consistency is key, and so is diversity of exercises

Thank both of you for the usefull replys !

Just wondering, why should the clamping be low pressure and no blue penis ?

I must admit, before I read the reply’s today I have been doing a daily 2 x 10 min clamping with high pressure, blue penis and some red dots
Because I think I was maximizing the effect of killing blood cells/veins in order to allow them to regrow stronger/bigger ?

(Isn’t that the main of 2 ‘features’ of clamping ? The other being pumping it beyond the regular girth, promoting expansion)

Kind Regards

Nahhh. You have to shot to your penis with a .45 Magnum, that dickhead.