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Goingfor9inch I will be trying to use one for a long time simply because I can’t do any other form of PE for various reasons. I wear mine 12 hours a day very consistently-granted for only 3 months now. But I would like to do 6 month stretches over winters off in summer routine. How much have you gained in your 14 months?


Start PE nov. 6 2014 7" BPEL/BPSFL

5.75" girth May 2015 7.625" BPEL 6" girth

8"-8.25" BPSFL

Originally Posted by goinfor9inch

Big Dick Porn: Well, I think the 6-7 inch penis is not to far off for that “Adam and Eve” type of female-oriented porn—you know: soft candle light, kissing, not too many POV shots—but the real hardcore stuff like Bang Brothers—there are some whopping penises in those videos! Not to mention Steele and old-school Ron “Woodchuck” Jeremy. I want penises like those guys (the rest of Ron Jeremy’s body—not so much!).

Check this thread for some reality check ;)
The Size Myth In The Porn Industry
Espacially the last pages.
You are bigger then Ron Jeremy.

There’s a guy on PEGym who claimed to have racked up 8,000 hours in his extender over the space of several years. That’s the most hours I’ve heard anyone wear an extender. He apparently started in 2009 and stopped gaining in 2014 but continues to wear the extender because he enjoys the sensation whilst it is on. He claims to have gained 1.25” in EL and 1” in BEG and that his gains came to a crawl after his first year. I’d have hoped for more gains with 8,000 hours extending but that’s PE. You’re going to reach plateaus whether you like it or not and one of them will be unbreakable at which point you try another method.

His username is ‘pfm’ if you’re interested in finding the thread on PEGym. The thread is called ‘Most Hours Extending’.


07/10/14 - 6.5" BPEL - 5.5" MsEG

29/01/15 - 7" BPEL - 5.5" MsEG

12/10/17 - 7.4" BPEL - 5.6" MsEG


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Thanks KFH I will look. Discouraging to hear though such a time investment for 1”


Start PE nov. 6 2014 7" BPEL/BPSFL

5.75" girth May 2015 7.625" BPEL 6" girth

8"-8.25" BPSFL

Reply to Hoglover

Originally Posted by Hoglover
Goingfor9inch I will be trying to use one for a long time simply because I can’t do any other form of PE for various reasons. I wear mine 12 hours a day very consistently-granted for only 3 months now. But I would like to do 6 month stretches over winters off in summer routine. How much have you gained in your 14 months?

I gained 1 and 7/8 inch in my erect length over the last year, using it 6-8 hrs a day, 6 days per week. Aside from a few months of jelqing that I did before traction, this is my first PE experience. My gains from traction have slowed down a lot, but I am still making some progress.

Originally Posted by K_F_H
It still baffles me that people stretch so much with a strap attachment! That’s surely quite uncomfortable, even if you’re circumcised I imagine. I think I am able to stretch so far because of the VacExtender mod I bought fot my extender. Yeah there’s definitely a difference between high tension and max tension, I’m balancing on that fine line as if it were a tightrope as to avoid injury. I bought some 5.5k grams (around 12lb) springs to use in the last few months of my extending, now that truly will be extreme!

I know how you feel about the time commitment, although I only put 4-5hrs in per day, with a 1 hour break in between because of the very high tension. I am quite lucky that I am in my final year of university which means I’m in my room most of the time either studying, sleeping or eating and if I’m not I’m at a seminar or lecture. Any other time in my life and it really would’ve been a challenge to do this. I don’t plan on doing PE forever, well not properly anyway, I’m comfortable with the idea of performing very basic PE in the future every now and then to maintain my future size but more importantly to maintain EQ. Every now and then I feel like I could be doing something more productive with my time despite the gains I’ve received. I don’t know if that’s common amongst other PE’rs.

There was a thread on another PE forum created by a young man in the US porn industry. It’s honestly a brilliant read not only for those who has anxieties about their size but for anyone who has ever wondered about the size of a male performer. Through his experience of being on set with other male performer’s, free from the subtle distortions of size that are translated to screen, he gave estimations of the average size in the industry as well as of specific performers. His estimate was 6”-7” BPEL for the average size of most performers and around >7.25” BPEL if you were to be suitable for ‘Big Dick Porn’. Now as most male performers are in shape thus having a lower BF% it’s quite reasonable to assume that their fatpad is less than 0.5”. So most male performers in ‘Big Dick Porn’ would be just over 7” NBPEL. In other words, if you were to enter porn your near 8” NBPEL you would put almost all male performers, even those in that ‘Big Dick’ subgenre, to shame.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not trying to inflate your ego, I just want to stress that you already have a very rare size.

KFH, do you think vac based extender can apply less tension than strapping extenders?
How are you doing wit the vacextender? What are your previous gains/methods to that?


When conguering a golddigger you need a large bank account, when conquering a dickdigger you need a large tool. When conquering a woman you need a minimum of three things: money, class and yes: dick size. Good news are, you can actually improve in all these three aspects.

KFH, where did you get those springs? Does Mb provide them?

Do you think the board you linked is BP or NBP?


When conguering a golddigger you need a large bank account, when conquering a dickdigger you need a large tool. When conquering a woman you need a minimum of three things: money, class and yes: dick size. Good news are, you can actually improve in all these three aspects.

Goinfor9inch

You good man mate, thanks for replying and helping us all in this. Other would just enjoy his new big dick and just come here OR ask questions about hanging when he stops making progress with the extender.
I am curious, companies says that lower tension and longer extender periods (2h-4h ) are better. You do the contrary, 1h sets with high tension. And you don’t even do 6h in a row, you do 2h in the morning, 2h before gym and 2h after gym right?
I wonder how much tension you apply, I think your technique is close to hanging.. What position do you use the extender mainly?
I think hanging will do marvels for you.
Why don’t you send the post and after pics to SG company if you got them, they could give the money back and you can start having your own blog and make some money from it like theGuyfromNextDoor or goodlookinglooser did.
Regarding my life.. I think living with your parents and having a irregular timetable at school makes all this difficult. The gym is hard, I am almost 6,5. I eat a lot but I guess I screw up in some weekend. I would like to get your avise for the gym in the future when I finish my studies. So far I am maintaining in the gym and also PE, I’d be happy to have some little gain in either subject tho..
Cheers mate


When conguering a golddigger you need a large bank account, when conquering a dickdigger you need a large tool. When conquering a woman you need a minimum of three things: money, class and yes: dick size. Good news are, you can actually improve in all these three aspects.

Do you think that those than don’t gain stretching 1h a day like me would benefit from extender? Going to the gym again: can you gain squatting low weights with 50 reps if you have already squated with very high weights for a few reps and didn’t gain either?


When conguering a golddigger you need a large bank account, when conquering a dickdigger you need a large tool. When conquering a woman you need a minimum of three things: money, class and yes: dick size. Good news are, you can actually improve in all these three aspects.

Lastly and sorry for doing the questions separately..

What do you mean when you say you work in academics? That means you are a teacher?

What do you think about deconditioning breaks in PE and in the gym?


When conguering a golddigger you need a large bank account, when conquering a dickdigger you need a large tool. When conquering a woman you need a minimum of three things: money, class and yes: dick size. Good news are, you can actually improve in all these three aspects.

Reply to Quim92 sets

Originally Posted by quim92
Goinfor9inch

You good man mate, thanks for replying and helping us all in this. Other would just enjoy his new big dick and just come here OR ask questions about hanging when he stops making progress with the extender.
I am curious, companies says that lower tension and longer extender periods (2h-4h ) are better. You do the contrary, 1h sets with high tension. And you don’t even do 6h in a row, you do 2h in the morning, 2h before gym and 2h after gym right?
I wonder how much tension you apply, I think your technique is close to hanging.. What position do you use the extender mainly?
I think hanging will do marvels for you.
Why don’t you send the post and after pics to SG company if you got them, they could give the money back and you can start having your own blog and make some money from it like theGuyfromNextDoor or goodlookinglooser did.
Regarding my life.. I think living with your parents and having a irregular timetable at school makes all this difficult. The gym is hard, I am almost 6,5. I eat a lot but I guess I screw up in some weekend. I would like to get your avise for the gym in the future when I finish my studies. So far I am maintaining in the gym and also PE, I’d be happy to have some little gain in either subject tho..
Cheers mate

I will answer this set of questions and address some of the others later or tomorrow.

Tension: As I stated in an earlier post, I don’t know how to directly quantify tension (which has the same units as force) in the SizeGenetics extender. I have it set with enough bars that I have to really pull my penis hard to get it strapped in. Then I lengthen with the screws; extending as much as I can take (pain) and not slipping out of the device—both are limiting factors. Once I can add bars to the arms I do so—as a matter of fact, yesterday I hit a milestone by adding another bar. I could barely get in it and the strap rode a little high onto the glans (with a cock ring between), but I kept it like that for an hour. I am blistered on the underside of the glans today so I went back to the old setting. But I will keep trying to manage to get into that new configuration, working it in with the old setting, until eventually I just start using the new configuration. (Note: with hanging you can quantify the force and impulse; weight is a measure of force (mass x g), impulse is the product of time and force (really the integrated area under a F vs. Time plot))

This is what I did today on the extender in terms of use: 7:00-8:10 am, 8:20-9:50 am, 10:05-11:05 am, 11:15 am-12:35 pm, 2:30-3:45 pm, 4:20-5:10 pm, 7:10-8:00 pm (that’s it for today!)

That’s close to 8 hrs total traction, which is on the upper-end of a typical day. I usually take a break for a somewhere between 5-15 minutes between ‘sets’ that run 1-2 hr (maybe a little less as the day wears on and my penis is starting to hurt, especially around the head.) I try to get a 3-4 closely spaced sets in the morning, usually doing between 4-6 hrs. Then only a couple sets later in the day, then relax.

The way I am doing traction I could not imagine doing it (or want to do it) without these short breaks. For one thing, there is the pain issue around the head. Secondly, while I still have blood flow in the penis it might be restricted a little and I like to assure good circulation periodically. Finally, inevitably I begin to slip in the strap and want to readjust.

Position: When standing I keep the extender pointing down. I wear loose boxers and loose sweats in the house (never leave the house doing PE!). When I sit to read or work on the computer I shift it a bit to the left or right, still basically facing down.

Sending in pics etc: I am really not interested in making any money off my gains or having my face known as being ‘the PE guy’, because that might conflict with other things I do in life (although I think what we are doing is very positive, like working out, and we should not be ashamed of at all). I don’t have good ‘before’ pics (as in a ruler up to the penis), and basically have only taken pics of my penis to sext some horny women that I know! (Yes, guys in their 40s do this!)

Life: To be frank, you sound like a traditional-age college guy (late teens/early 20s) and college should take precedence over PE and to some extent, the gym. This is not to say abnegate working out and PE. Honestly, unless you have a really small penis (no disrespect), I wouldn’t get hung up on PE to the extent that your grades suffer. In regards to working out (I will be brief here, because I know this is a PE site): don’t be one of those guys in the gym for hours, making no gains, doing what I call a “whole lot of nothing”: For example, here is a very good chest and back routine that you can do in an hour, that I did (or something similar to) for years and made great gains: flat bench press ~7-8 sets in a pyramid fashion (pyramiding up one workout to a heavy single or double, other workouts staying in the 6-12 rep range), incline press (or incline dbs) 3-4 sets, dips or flat fly (or both superset) 2-3 sets ~6-10 reps, chins 5-6 sets to failure with your body, bent over bb rows (or T-bar rows) 4-5 sets pyramid ~6-12 reps, cable rows and/or lat pulldowns (various angles) at end3-4 sets 8-12 reps. That’s it, and that can be done in 1-1.5 hrs, no problem. The key is hitting basic exercises for a variety of reps, going at it hard after the warm ups, pyramid the weights and use good form.

Have you seen those young guys in the gym who drift in and start chest with pec deck and then do cable crossovers and machines—do they usually have good chests compared to guys who focus on heavy bench and weighted dips?

Reply to Quim92 Sets, reps

Originally Posted by quim92
Do you think that those than don’t gain stretching 1h a day like me would benefit from extender? Going to the gym again: can you gain squatting low weights with 50 reps if you have already squatted with very high weights for a few reps and didn’t gain either?

I hope last night’s post where I give the breakdown of a typical days use of the extender gives you a clear description of my usage. I don’t think I’d of gained much from doing an hour a day with this device; simply not enough force to induce the micro-tears needed.

Squatting: I’ll be brief here, because this is a PE forum, and I am not professing expertise, just reiterating my own experiences and my observations of the many guys I’ve worked out with from the 1980s until now:

Most young men who start lifting in their teens to early 20s make great benefit (in size) for the first 2-5 years from simply using good form on basic exercises, trying to increase the weight on these exercises, eating a high protein diet with ample calories for their metabolism/body-type, getting adequate rest. By basic exercises I mean staples like free weight bench press, squats, bent over and/or T-bar rows, chins, dips etc. This does not mean every workout has to go to a low (or single rep) maximum. For example, me and my workout partners would maybe max on bench press (or do a heavy double or triple) once every 3-4 chest workouts, on the others we’d focus on pyramiding in the approximately 6-12 repetition range. Sometimes we’d shock the body and do even higher reps, especially on thighs. And certain muscle groups, like calves, abs and forearms, on most guys, tend to grow better with higher repetitions.

Don’t try to emulate pro-bodybuilders’ workouts. Often, mags like Muscle and Fitness (mainly BS), give pre-contest routines (and photos) that don’t represent what the guy did to get his baseline mass. Also, most pro-bodybuilders are on steroids, HGH and other drugs (and I am saying this based on personal relations with pros and upper-level amateurs in the 80s and 90s, mainly) and can get away with doing a lot of volume, because their recovery is high. I mean no disrespect by this statement—I’ve taken steroids (never HGH, insulin etc), but have trained about 27 out of 30 years of total time training, without steroids and still look pretty good and am strong for my age (without any use now). My greatest mass gains were made BEFORE I ever took these drugs and directly corresponded to strength gains on basic exercises, especially benching, squat, and rows.

Just like I think happens in PE, there comes a time in training when you have to mix things up. Your strength levels may be just about maxed out or, like what happened to me—you begin to really assume a power-lifting type mindset and make gains in specific lifts, without really gaining that much size. Notably, I was so intent on chasing a 500 lb bench in my late teens that I focused too much on that exercise and when I saw photos of me taken over a year (one when I was maxing at 440, the other at 495) my chest showed no improvement. I started to switch up my workout, doing inclines first, higher rep schemes, super-setting pressing moves with flies etc and my chest grew. But to get to this plateau took me 4-5 years and I gained a lot in the early stages of chasing power.

I am approaching PE like that. On the SizeGenetics extender I constantly am trying to push up the number of bars, just get my flaccid penis a little longer in the device. This worked great for the first 8-9 months, but over the last 4-5 months has slowed down a lot. I am plateauing. And I expected this. Now, just like with training for mass, I’m going to ‘flip the script’ and try shocking that tissue into growth with hanging. I’ll probably keep some days of traction in—to me it’s like the bench press of PE!—but maybe listen to some of the senior members and employ a Vac-Extender to make the use easier.

Other questions:

De-conditioning breaks in PE: I don’t have enough PE experience or knowledge to answer this. But I am hesitant about stopping PE for time scales beyond a couple of days. I am going to try to change programs instead of stopping.

De-conditioning in the gym: I never liked to lift weights more than 5 days a week, even 6 was too much. I take rest days as needed, usually training 2-3 days on, then rest. Often on rest days I do some mild cardio and/or abs or some outdoor activity like hiking. I also take off anytime I am sick and don’t try to ‘train through and injury’ when I have a specific part that is hurt. For example, I have arthritis and today my knees and ankles are just killing me and will probably either skip legs in the gym entirely tomorrow or do a little light stationary bike riding. Now, do I think (younger) guys need to de-condition by taking breaks on the scale of weeks or months? Hell no. This makes about as much sense as when I see younger guys in blogs, without appreciable mass, talking about “cut’ versus ‘bulk’ phase cycles. Unless you are really fat, you should probably focus on mass building for the first years of training (I am assuming that you want to get big). Change the grouping of body parts, change the set/rep scheme/tempo, work on eating right—but laying off for weeks-months after training just a couple years? Come on, that is some real laziness! (If you feel over-trained, incorporate more rest days, but don’t stop lifting altogether.)

Academia: I worked at a university in the USA as a researcher and lecturer until recently.

Well mate, don’t know what to say. Guys like you are a deep source of wisdom. It is valuable having you here. What is your major ? You teach something related to sport science and nutrition I guess?

Funny when you say 40 yo guys send pics of their dicks to horny women haha, I know guys my age who do it but it is also to older women, I guess young girls care more about other stuff.

I am a very tall guy, almost 6,5feet so doing chins without aid is just possible if I do it as a first exercise. But I will probably PM for all these gym stuff.

About the SG, how does fatigue feel to you at the base? Have you ever have to stop because of that? Notice some people ensure the key for hanging is to “ride fatigue”. Don’t know if you would do good with vachangers, bib hanger can hold more weight and it seems to be that the force you use is equivalent or close to what common vachangers would be able to hold. Have you considered adding stretches to your extender routine? You might enhance new growth.

I find hard combining PE (being in this TP site and performing exercises), gym, school, work, fun.. I honestly thing all this is better for those who got their own space. And the exercises I do are time-consuming sometimes.


When conguering a golddigger you need a large bank account, when conquering a dickdigger you need a large tool. When conquering a woman you need a minimum of three things: money, class and yes: dick size. Good news are, you can actually improve in all these three aspects.

Originally Posted by quim92
Well mate, don’t know what to say. Guys like you are a deep source of wisdom. It is valuable having you here. What is your major ? You teach something related to sport science and nutrition I guess?
Funny when you say 40 yo guys send pics of their dicks to horny women haha, I know guys my age who do it but it is also to older women, I guess young girls care more about other stuff.
I am a very tall guy, almost 6,5feet so doing chins without aid is just possible if I do it as a first exercise. But I will probably PM for all these gym stuff.
About the SG, how does fatigue feel to you at the base? Have you ever have to stop because of that? Notice some people ensure the key for hanging is to “ride fatigue”. Don’t know if you would do good with vachangers, bib hanger can hold more weight and it seems to be that the force you use is equivalent or close to what common vachangers would be able to hold. Have you considered adding stretches to your extender routine? You might enhance new growth.
I find hard combining PE (being in this TP site and performing exercises), gym, school, work, fun.. I honestly thing all this is better for those who got their own space. And the exercises I do are time-consuming sometimes.

In regards to you questions and comments:

Education: My educational background is in chemistry.

Fatigue with the SizeGenetics extender: in terms of non-productive pain and irritation, the two worst places are around the head of the penis (I sometimes blister) and around the base, including the top of my testes that sometimes get abraded on by the screws. I manage the head irritation by trying to keep the strap directly off the rim of the head; I put a foam ring over penis (the one that came with the SizeGenetics kit); then put a wide cock band (Titan hxxp://store.titanmen.com/toys/tools-toys/titanmen-stretch-cock-ring.html) over the foam, then strap. I try to minimize having the metal arms and screws abrade my body and slip a sock over the extender, once my penis is in. Sometime when the base is really killing me, I squeeze some paper towels between the plastic and my body. Taking the device off for 10-15 minutes usually is the best solution, and start again. Tedious, for sure..

Force, stretching: Like I said in earlier posts, I know no way to quantify force with the extender, but assume the length you lengthen is proportional to it directly. Of course, with hanging, which I will try very soon, the weight is fundamentally a force, and I can quantify impulse by taking weight times time. I don’t know anything about the vac-extender, but it looks interesting. I watched some videos on stretching on Thunder’s and realized that I do some of them (not very systematically) when I jelq. To be frank, I often watch porn when jelqing, which helps me get close to erect (about 70-80%). Of course (despite my age!), when I am jelqing and watching some young honey like Ava Rose or Alexis Texas taking a big one—well, sometimes I do get a full erection and stop jelqing, but usually keep ‘pulling’ on my penis at this time as the erection slightly subsides, the resume jelqing. Again, not systematic at all.. (I think when I switch to hanging I will do some stretching before the session begins, because I think this may be a more intense method than traction.)

Chins: Let me say this, I’m 47 (48 soon!) and still chin, including with weights (chains between 20-60 lbs) and am 240ish now—solid, definitely not ‘ripped’ . I was chinning when I weighed 270 lbs too, back in the 80s and early 90s. Arnold Schwarzenegger in one of his books (maybe Education of a Bodybuilder, which is a classic!) gave some great advice on this exercise to heavier guys starting out who can only get a couple reps, that is likely applicable to a very tall guy: Don’t count sets, count reps. For example, let’s say you can only do 1 or 2 reps at a time.. Just keep getting off the chin bar, take a brief rest and go again, until you get to a certain number (maybe 25 at first, later 50). Just think about getting these reps in. Chins take not only back (latissimus mainly, great for width in the back) strength, but biceps and a lot of hand/forearm strength; don’t lose out on the latter, and avoid those wrist straps. Do chins (mainly wide-grip overhand) at the beginning of your back workout, and provided you are healthy, follow with good form bent over barbell rows or T-bar rows (I usually alternate between workouts). The chins and the rows (for me) are the mainstay of my back workout.


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