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Involuntary PC contractions and Premature Ejaculation

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Kegels can`t be bad because they helped me tremendously, beyond my expectations. The goal is to gain total control during sex. And you need a strong PC/BC/whatever muscle for that, to hold the load. You hold not just by contractions, but being `aware` of the muscle status. Kegels improve your attention about that too. And stronger muscle means more stamina, try kegeling for 10-15-20-30 minutes total (gradually) Maybe you should try edging too.

Good luck.


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Originally Posted by gonnagrow
A while ago I started doing kegals and when it came to sex, I would cum extremmeeely prematurely.. I’m talking about 10-15 seconds. My EQ has always been incredible, and I can continuously go on and on , but when I did have the extreme premature problem, I was able to cum about 4 times and maintain an rock hard erection still.

I stopped doing the kegals since, but I definitely feel they have different effects on different people.

Cruxx and ironaddict, what are your erection angles like ? Mine points straight up,sometimes literally at about an 80 degree angle I have an odd hunch this has something to do with it.

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My penis angle is also pretty high. I would say it is similar to yours.

Why do you think this has something to do with it?

I’ve noticed lately that my PC muscle(s?) often tense up a little when I’m not even thinking about something sexual.. Guess I have a job to do, getting this thing to relax.

Yea we just have to train our body not to kick in with the PC muscle/ kegeling at all. Over the past few days I have focused on not contracting these muscles at all and I can definitely see some difference.

During masterbation if I focus on relaxing these muscles I can last a long time but as soon as I lose focus the contractions reappear and once they start it is impossible to backtrack even if I take a 5 minute break and start masterbating again the muscles will contract within 1 minute.

Also, I try to incorporate thrusts to mimic sex but as soon as I start to thrust I feel the contractions. It’s very strange. Going to stick with the relaxation though as I feel it should work!

Originally Posted by Cruxx
Stop these involuntary

Game over man.. =\

Something involuntary cannot be changed unless you find a way to control it.


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Ok so I have had sex again and hoped that I would last longer this time, but I didn’t even make it to the sex, I blew after about 1 minute of a blowjob. I wasn’t nervous at all this time so I guess it’s not to do with nerves or stress. I’m getting really depressed about this now, I feel that it will never go away! I can last a long time during masturbation so I just don’t understand!

I am thinking about trying Zoloft or something similar although I don’t like the idea of having to take drugs to beat this. I feel as though I am missing out on a major part of my life here and will never be able to satisfy a woman. I have lost out on so many relationship opportunities/ hookups and it’s getting me really down. Oh well keep fighting I suppose.

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Cruxx

I do advocate for going into a kegeling/edging routine and give it a try.

Edging and kegeling is like jelqing: it requires a lot o practice to identify the various muscles and control them with your will. Start edging today, and do it daily!

A) The most simple exercise is classical edging to high impact stimulus. I absolutely recommend NOT to use porn, but your head movie catalogue at free disposal. Imagine the most erotic things, and masturbate slowly and with very light pressure. When you feel the PONR approaching, stop masturbating and squeeze your glans quite hard. The PONR feeling then should immediately fade out. Go on with cerebral and manual stimulation as before and repeat the stop/go as much as planned.

Do it on a schedule, like 15 mins with 3 stops, and then slowly move to up to half an hour with as many stops as you are able to do. This will give you a feeling of strength: you are able to control the urge of orgasm and completely control your dick!

B) After a few weeks start with simple kegeling: urine flow stop while taking a piss. With this, you are able to identify your BC muscle. Start a very light routine of compressing the BC muscle for 10sec and rest 5sec. Repeat it for 3-5 mins for at least 1 month. This can be done in public, it’s very discreet and all you need is a watch indicating seconds. Take it seriously and do it every day.

C) Then comes the moment to discover your PC muscle. Massage your taint (between balls and anus) lightly for 5 minutes and try to build compressions,like waves travelling from the anus towards the balls. That’s your PC muscle. Then include the massage in the edging: stop at PONR, feel as the muscle starts to pump, and learn to relax it by gently massaging it. Very light touch, more of pressing it inside instead of massaging it.

D) If you are completely able to stop/go at will as long as you intend to, it’s the moment to discover the last pelvic muscle: the one you need for reverse kegels. I am, anatomically speaking, not very sure if it’s a muscle or rather the relaxation of PC or BC, but I know how to control it. Best is to exercise this when doing wet jelqs. Make a slow jelq movement, clench the base of your dick with your other hand and stop all movements. Then start to pump blood in your dick. You will need some time for getting how to do it, but when you feel that it works then you have found the method for the reverse kegel (as far as I have understood it). This allows you to pump blood in your dick as much as you want. Now the trick is: this is an orgasm stop technique too. When you completely control the blood flow, combine it with edging and instead if pressing the glans you stop and pump intentionally your dick fuller. This will not work for the first few times, because you will race over the PONR and come like a fountain. But don’t give up, believe me please, it works and is a highly enjoyable moment when used in intercourse. You just have to stop the pounding and simply stay pushed at max into her and let her feel all your dimension. And then you can go on!

E) The last stage is an edging exercise: masturbate slowly towards the PONR and then, when you feel you reach it, continue the masturbation and contract ALL pelvic muscles at the same time. This means the orgasm can be stopped without even having the glans compressed. Will need quite a lot of time, but is extremely powerful because you can stop/go without interrupting intercourse.

Anything that goes beyond that level of self-control is tantric sex! Not that I think Tantra is bad, all the opposite, I am quite interested in the higher level of orgasm control for myself, but let’s start with the basics first. And I am still not where I want to be!

I know all this sounds a bit complicated but it is well worth the effort, because it makes you, technically speaking, a very long-lasting lover. Think in months of time to invest.


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Yeah kegels will definitely push you over the edge. The only way for me to climax now is by squeezing my BC muscles. Kegels are completely about being aware of your pelvic floor. In your case I suggest reverse kegels to relax the pelvic floor. Do a 30 kegel/ 70 reverse session or something, or cut out the kegels completely because they are causing your PE. Practice masturbating and be aware of the sensations, like what gets you tense or what gets you over the edge. Isolate these issues and work on them. RELAX. Eventually you can practice step E above but this takes perfecting. When your up in a girl just take it slow, don’t squeeze your cheeks together or nothing just slide back and forth easily. Missionary or doggie would be best, no cow girl/boy. Definitely try edging, practice doing light kegels in your session, then stopping. Keep doing this until they no longer bring you to the PONR and are no longer a trigger for your PE. AWARENESS is the key. Involuntary kegels are what happens when you climax. Just practice until you can completely control them. You should eventually be able to determine when you want to orgasm, which should be your decision only. This is what helped for me. Good luck.


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