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Okay so when I am not PEing I am reading about it and learning as much as I can but I think I just confused myself in to a giant cluster****. Just so everyone knows I have been using the search function or how else could I have been doing all my research. Alright well to start this off here is a little information about me. I have been PEing since March 2nd 2008 (still a beginner), and all that I do is the newbie routine. As far as I can tell it seems to be working in most places such as EQ, morning wood, seems fuller than before. But here goes, I have a lot of questions and I will search them and find the answer to what I wanted but that will just lead to another question then to another and I will get confused and the answer to my previous questions gets muffled. I hope everyone was able to follow me with that ramble.

Alright as far as my questions so here there are.

While I am doing my jelqing, should I try to have a constant or best I can reverse kegel while I am stretching for the best length gains? Did I understand that correctly?

Is my LOT really important to me at this state in my PE career?

When I am doing my kegeling and reverse kegeling, should my anus get tight for both of those? And for the reverse should my abs be getting tight? Or should for both of those should I just be able to work the muscle alone?

As far at the turkey neck thing goes, can you ONLY tell that when you have an erection or can it also be seen when you are flaccid?

I am uncut and do not wish to have my foreskin get any longer (I like it right where it is now, not to long, not to short) should I be doing wet jelqs even if dry are more convenient for me?

Would it be safe for me to start a 3 on 1 off routine yet or is that to early for my penis, like would it need more conditioning?

Well I had a lot more questions but now things have seemed to have slipped my mind.


Starting stats: 7.17" x 5.24"

While I am doing my jelqing, should I try to have a constant or best I can reverse kegel while I am stretching for the best length gains? Did I understand that correctly?

Jelqing and stretching are different exercises. You’ve put both in your question. Kegels help with overall penis health. They are not necessary while jelqing, but some find it helps keep enough blood in the corpora cavernosa for the jelq stroke to be effective. There are a variety of opinions on “reverse kegels.” Mine is that it is nothing more than relaxing your pelvic muscles. Some feel that bearing down and using the abdominals is part of the reverse kegel. Either way they don’t do anything to loosen your penis during manual stretching. What it can do is prevent you from kegeling and pulling against your stretch. By relaxing you get the better stretch. So you did have it right. Gains? They may come and they may not. Stretching or jelqing doesn’t mean gains are automatic.

Is my LOT really important to me at this state in my PE career?

Search again for my user name and LOT. You’ll find that almost every week I say: “The LOT theory was meant to be of use to hangers. Men who hang weights from their penises. It has nothing to do with jelqing, stretching, kegels or anything else. It was basically show to be of little use anyway. Ignore LOT.”

When I am doing my kegeling and reverse kegeling, should my anus get tight for both of those? And for the reverse should my abs be getting tight? Or should for both of those should I just be able to work the muscle alone?

When you first begin doing kegels it’s not unusual for the anus to contract as well. Doesn’t hurt if it does. Eventually you’ll be able to isolate the BC muscle (see: Locating the bc muscle). Abs don’t help (IMO) with reverse kegels. Just relax the pelvic muscles.

As far at the turkey neck thing goes, can you ONLY tell that when you have an erection or can it also be seen when you are flaccid?

If you have excess scrotal skin that extends with your erection then you have a turkey neck. It isn’t apparent when you’re soft. And it isn’t the end of the world either. It just looks ugly. No big deal, IMO.

I am uncut and do not wish to have my foreskin get any longer (I like it right where it is now, not to long, not to short) should I be doing wet jelqs even if dry are more convenient for me?

Stretched skin is inevitable with jelqing. Dry or wet won’t make much difference. I know you can use a “titles only” search for “foreskin jelqing” and find out more on this subject.

Would it be safe for me to start a 3 on 1 off routine yet or is that to early for my penis, like would it need more conditioning?

The newbie routine is only a suggestion. You can do whatever you like. Some guys begin with five on, two off. Others don’t take any off days. If you feel like you’re over-training, cut back. Otherwise, your schedule is whatever you want it to be.

Well I had a lot more questions but now things have seemed to have slipped my mind.

I have no doubt you’ll be back with them soon. :)

Well as promised here are some more questions that have come to me thanks to being able to sleep a bit.

When you over work your penis what are some of the symptoms other than the ones that I have read about, which are. Soreness, red lumps on glands, tender to the touch. Those are the only ones I can think of offhand. What are some more good signs of being over worked or would I just be easier for me to keep on reading in the injury/treatment forum. I’m just looking for some injuries I will be able to see and feel before I REALLY hurt something.

I have heard a lot how the penis is NOT a muscle and I 100% agree to that, but should one such as myself who is still getting into the game take a rest day once or twice a week until my unit is used to the extra stress being put on it? Because I was thinking of starting a 3 on 1 off or 4 on 1 off routine. I just don’t want to over stress my penis.

If I would like to add some extra stretches to my routine or something what would be something safe for me because I am reading about so many but just cannot decide and am afraid to over load myself to the point of injury.

I read a certain thread about a stretch that said EVERY newbie should do to optimal gains but cannot remember what exercise it was etc. All I remember was that you wanted to pull the penis over your wrist while your hand is holding your other wrist or something and this is performed while laying down. Sorry I just can’t remember much about that one but will continue searching for it.

Well as you can see with this post I have put a lot into not wanting and injury etc. I also had more questions but no time to complete my post so I will bid everyone a due until I have more time.

Thank you all so much for putting up with all these questions I really appreciate it and as stated before I am doing all the research for these but I just get confused even more, ya know. I also did search for your user name and LOT and wow you do state A LOT that it is for hangers, I was pretty blind on that one :) .


Starting stats: 7.17" x 5.24"

Originally Posted by Dark_Angel
Well as promised here are some more questions that have come to me thanks to being able to sleep a bit.

When you over work your penis what are some of the symptoms other than the ones that I have read about, which are. Soreness, red lumps on glands, tender to the touch. Those are the only ones I can think of offhand. What are some more good signs of being over worked or would I just be easier for me to keep on reading in the injury/treatment forum. I’m just looking for some injuries I will be able to see and feel before I REALLY hurt something.

Read my thread on PIs, linked at the bottom of this post. The overall concept is to avoid negatives, and move toward positive. I HIGHLY suggest shooting for SRR, or Super Relaxation Response, or a full and heavy flaccid. IMO it means you hit the target for the day.

Originally Posted by Dark_Angel
I have heard a lot how the penis is NOT a muscle and I 100% agree to that, but should one such as myself who is still getting into the game take a rest day once or twice a week until my unit is used to the extra stress being put on it? Because I was thinking of starting a 3 on 1 off or 4 on 1 off routine. I just don’t want to over stress my penis.

Actually, muscle makes up a large part of it, and its response is a critical component. However, its not skeletal muscle, its smooth muscle. It will give you critical clues to successful PE.

Overstress it, and it contracts, like overworking your legs with wts, they get very tight and you limp around for a few days until they recover and loosen up.

Same thing with smooth muscle. Smooth muscle must relax for a good erection, and it also effects the state of your flaccid. [If your smooth muscle in your penis contracts, your flaccid shrinks and if you beat it up enough, your EQ is decreased until it recovers.]

When you stress the penis “just right”, the smooth muscle actually relaxes beyond its normal flaccid state and you get SRR , or Super Relaxation Response. You will then have, temporarily a larger and fuller flaccid. I am working on a system of PE right now based on this and some other indicators, but for now I think its a good bet to aim for this daily.

Originally Posted by Dark_Angel
If I would like to add some extra stretches to my routine or something what would be something safe for me because I am reading about so many but just cannot decide and am afraid to over load myself to the point of injury.

I read a certain thread about a stretch that said EVERY newbie should do to optimal gains but cannot remember what exercise it was etc. All I remember was that you wanted to pull the penis over your wrist while your hand is holding your other wrist or something and this is performed while laying down. Sorry I just can’t remember much about that one but will continue searching for it.

In my opinion, its not necessary…KISS! Not calling you stupid, but keep it simple. The beauty of jelquing is you get both girth and stretch at the same time.

Length is effected by the “pull” aspect of your stroke. Girth is effected by the “squeeze” aspect of it. The erection level helps shift it where you want. The higher the erection, the more girth is effected. If you want both, I suggest about a 70% erection level and concentrate on both trapping the blood and expanding your penis as well as getting a nice smooth stretch where you feel all the elastic range get pulled out then go a little past that feeling.

The biggest mistake people make with jelquing, is too much force. Keep it in the pleasant range, and you shouldn’t be seeing a lot of edema, or any…and no red dots or at least not much at all.

A good test for your smooth muscle post jelquing, is you should be able to get a good hard erection (indicates it can relax), or ideally, a HARDER than usual erection (indicating SRR, but not everyone may be able to get this immediately)

Good luck.


Last edited by sparkyx : 04-27-2008 at .
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