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If PE really works, why is there no scientific evidence

Or see for longer full texts here:

http://www.andromedical.com/scientific-studies/

Hopefully these studys are no fakes


My goal: from 11.9 cm NBPEL to 18 cm NBPEL (~7 ") ...now or never...!!!! after 5 weeks(and a long break): 12.5 cm NBPEL

Originally Posted by RisingUpTo7
Or see for longer full texts here:

http://www.andromedical.com/scientific-studies/

Hopefully these studys are no fakes

The biggest problem with this study is found up in the nav bar - the “BUY NOW” link…. they have a commercial interest. Of course, that doesn’t necessarily invalidate their study, but it does raise questions.

Thunder’s is free and is proof that PE works. You need not go any farther.

They say attack the thread, not the poster. I don’t know who the poster was, and it doesn’t matter to me. My honest opinion is that this is a retarded thread. If something produces predictable results, it is scientific. The suffix “-tific” means something like the suffix “-ly” and means resembling, in accord with or resulting from. If PE didn’t resemble science in its ability to have consistent, reliable, real-life results, why the hell would any of us be here? If you split our members into two camps, one group who believes PE works because they understand the reality of their growing penises, and another group who hasn’t had any success so they are skeptical, you have to think that the ‘believers’ see PE as ‘scienceful’. The other group is ignorant in my opinion because they are speaking about something which they clearly have very little insight on. Therefore, those of us who know PE works and recognizes its scientific legitimacy should try to persuade the others to learn about what we already know. But listen, if you wear an ADS for four hours per day, I’ll pay a thousand dollars if your penis isn’t longer in a year’s time. And if that is not science, I don’t know what is… Maybe it isn’t accepted by everyone in America or around the world as a legitimate science, but that doesn’t debunk the fact that many TP members are watching their units grow as we speak… But back to the original point: this thread sucks.


Recognize.

Originally Posted by matutinal_euphony

They say attack the thread, not the poster. I don’t know who the poster was, and it doesn’t matter to me. My honest opinion is that this is a retarded thread. If something produces predictable results, it is scientific. The suffix “-tific” means something like the suffix “-ly” and means resembling, in accord with or resulting from. If PE didn’t resemble science in its ability to have consistent, reliable, real-life results, why the hell would any of us be here?

Well there are a number of possible answers to that. I think many people come here for the “fantasy” of it all. That doesn’t just comprise people who post about their gains but also those who post about their sex stories. Many of them are probably legit but I’ve read quite a few that are clearly just male fantasy with no basis in reality. There is also the element of delusion. There are some people who convince themselves they gained when in reality they didn’t. I think the bone pressing is what convinces a lot of guys they made gains. I know intuitively, before finding this forum it always seemed to me that you should measure what you see and then you come here and people are promoting bone pressing where you jam the ruler in as hard as you can and VOILA you are now .5-1.0 inches bigger than before. Think about it, how many people come on here and post about how they made an “easy inch” of newbie gains but how the gains have since become impossible.


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In a way if you think about it, everything is revolved around money. Why would somebody spend millions of dollars to prove PE works? PE is free and It’s always going to be free. Yeah you could make a website or book and sell techniques and routines and information, but that’s already been done. There’s no money in it so why research it.


Current stat = NBPEL - 6.235", BPEL - 7.000".. Mid EG - 5.063".. Base EG - 5.750" BPSFL - 7.3125 ------ Old stats = NBPEL - 6.000", Mid EG - 5.000

Goal stat = NBPEL - 7.750", BPEL - 8.250".. Mid EG - 6.000".. Base EG - 6.500" ------ Goal Length gains - 1.515". Girth gain - 1.000"

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As far as i know, there are evidences: its possible to enlarge but… you need to pay for surgery.

Next - why there is no proof of *Natural PE*? The Western father of medicine, Hippocrates once said: “Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food”. If you go to a doctor, what will be his advice? “I will explain you with details what to eat and when to stay healthy”? No. He will sell you thousands of pills for every problem. Relating to PE, he can’t sell you Jelqin Pill. So there is no interest in proofing natural PE.

Originally Posted by 2Big4u
In a way if you think about it, everything is revolved around money. Why would somebody spend millions of dollars to prove PE works? PE is free and It’s always going to be free. Yeah you could make a website or book and sell techniques and routines and information, but that’s already been done. There’s no money in it so why research it.

You could sort of say this about physical fitness also, yet tons of research have gone into training methodology & nutritionary science…..

Let’s look at it like this, perhaps:

(1) PE is free; furthermore, it can even eliminate the need for men to pursue a paying procedure (phalloplasty).

(2) PE does carry significant risks (thrombosis, nerve damage, chamber blow-out, aneurysm, blood clots, etc.) - even more so than most physical fitness activities. Furthermore, PE can damage/destroy your one & only cock - a lot worse than sprained knee ligaments. This carries a SHITLOAD of potential liability for any doctor - vs. what potential return?

(3) PE, unlike physical fitness, has really no other purpose than the end in itself: a bigger cock. Whereas gym training can help rehab injuries, surgeries, or can provide a performance boost for any one of a dozen different sports.

(4) Physical fitness can be marketed (by studs & hotties) into TV programs, DVDs, training seminars, etc. And can be used to sell workout clothes, tennis shoes, training equipment, nutritional supplements, etc. To do this for PE would require a “xxx” rating and, therefore, would be banned in most outlets.

(5) Full frontal male nudity is still an extreme taboo (especially in America). I see no real possibility of marketing this - or even discussing it - in mainstream America….in the foreseeable future.

No market, no financial potential (yet potential injury suits), very taboo subject…. just ain’t happening.

For all the above reasons, PE will only become marginally more popular at best. Almost nobody believes in this shit, and unless it’s marketed the same people who are out to find it will find it, the naysayers will never try it, and if you even attempt to have discussion with them, they will look at you like you’re fucking crazy.

Originally Posted by UkranianTitan

For all the above reasons, PE will only become marginally more popular at best. Almost nobody believes in this shit, and unless it’s marketed the same people who are out to find it will find it, the naysayers will never try it, and if you even attempt to have discussion with them, they will look at you like you’re fucking crazy.

Yep

Because if the masses of men found out the guys that think they are small will always be small because the average size will go up if the masses are PE. Thank god not that many men know. It’s sad but true

The masses of men won’t PE because reputable doctors will never recognize it, especially increased liability and malpractice suits. Even if they did only a small minority of men would practice it. The average person does not get gains for months, some take a year or more investment in PE before they find a way to even squeeze out out 0.1 inches on their dick. It takes a certain type of personality to deal with that.

I can’t believe we are all still answering this guy….


The only power a woman has over you is that which you give her.

One thing night be that penis size is considered like some kind of vanity and for well hunged guys it probably is (except keeping you penis in good health). Some guys who have so small that penis that they can´t even commit intercourse it must be really devastating and even lead to suicide. But if there would be big news that medical ppl say that you can manually get your penis bigger what would it do to whole world, some kind of insanity, all men jelqing and clamping (most stupid one´s destroying their unit in week).

I think this is wise men´s thing to do. If you really want to enlarge your unit you have to find the information to do it by yourself, medical ppl are not gonna help you.

I think it’s wise decision that there are not big medical news that “Yes, we can all have big penis”, but many medical specialists have knowledge that it can be done, like you can modify every part of your body if you dedicate yourself into it, read information and be patient.


Start 20.4.2010: BPEL = 6.6 EG = 4.3 EGB = 4.8

Current: BPEL = 6.9 EG = 4.7 EGB = 4.9

Goal: BPEL = 7.5 EG = 5+

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