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I need advice! .... And Im also trying to give advice.

I need advice! .... And Im also trying to give advice.

Firstly yes I am a begiinner and have no PE experience whatsoever.

1.hmm after reading all I could find, I’d like to ask a few things before I choose my routine.
Im going to limit myself to just using my hands by the way, so no kind of devices.

I read that having less girth makes it easier to gain length,
so it would seem to me the best thing to do would be to firstly try to lengthen the tunica. Now I know that it’s a lot harder to lengthen the tunica than the ligaments, but girth will not limit ligament stretching. Now I believe the best “hands on” way to gain length is by jelqing, however I believe from what i’ve read that this will always give an increase in girth as well( correct me if I’m wrong) meaning once im done with the ligaments the increase in girth will make it that much harder to lengthen the tunica.

So unless im wrong it would seem the most efficeint longer term plan
wuld be to lengthen the tunica and then the ligaments by jelqing.
And I seem to remember reading that I can concentrate on the tunca by having my shaft at an above 90 angle, and work the ligs by having it at below 90. So this seems possible.

I will of course do a brief warm up involving a wrap and a bit of stretching at every angle possible.
Oh and how does stretching the head out at the end of each jelq affect things?
and is the A stretch too advanced for a beginner?
Also is there anything fundamentally wrong with my way of thinking?
And is jelqing the best approach(not using any equiptment etc remember)
for length gains?
Is sunflower oil ok for lubrication?

2.Ive noticed that most of you do a 5 day on 2 day off plan. Which seems cool, but from a lot of wasted time in the gym i’ve learnt that 6 days a week left me at avery lame plateau pretty quickly. But since cutting it to every other day and sometimes a 2 day break after 5 repetitions of this on/off period, I instantly broke my plateau and begin to grow like a weed!

Now I know the penis isn’t a muscle BUT
thats NOT the point in this case :) .
Its all to do with recovery time…. regardless of tissue type.
So yep every other day to start with for me!! until my cock gets fitter and I rank the intensity up…..

Now I read many people advising beginners to start carefully and not intense which is cool, but people have also been recommended to increase the no. of days doing PE along with the intensityonce they get the hang of it (no pun intended(man im seeing this phrase a helluva lot in this forum :) ))
I disagree with this and think things would be much cooler and sticking to the same no. of on days,
like every other day!

The thing I have learnt is when intensity increases to actually increase the rest periods even MORE!
So im going to try to give my member 1-2 day rest periods once im more conditionded to PE.
This is in my opinion the best way to go. Well ill just have to see how it works out for me:) Ill be sure to let you know how it goes.. oh wait I still need help with my routine first before I can started.
cheers
blue..


If God is all powerful, then the devil must be nothing more than a darkness in the mind of God, however if the devil is something real and seperate, then perfection is impossible and God cannot exist except in the aspirations of fallen angels.

Dude your situation is very similar to mine so I wish you the best of luck in your future pe career. :)

Btw what are your starting measurements and your goals ?


Started: 6 dec 2003 15 may 2004 : 7.6 x 5.9 inches Want : 8 (nbp) x 6 (head) My photo

You sounds so determinate that your way is the best way… Are you open to suggestions any more?


"Be aware that there are several schools of thought here as well. Some seem to go with the hard and heavy approach. The sessions are brutal. You can hear them talking to their dick: You better grow mofo or I will punish you even harder tomorrow! Others seem to favor a more tender approach. Always listening to what their member is saying while massaging it gently and singing to it with a soft voice. If it is moody and not happy with new behavior, they always listen and are very understanding."

I suppose..
Oh but it just took such a long time for someone to convince me that my hours of work in the gym was a waste.

well Base you are right , Ill try to keep myself open to others advice and suggestions, because in the end we can all help each other gain more, if we share as much as possible as often as possible. :)

thanks huge,
my starting stats are 6.5 erect and nonerect.. oh man it varies way too much, I can’t measure that.
I cant measure my girth until I get a piece of string or something lol

.. hmm actually come to think of it I don’t care about stretching the tunica first, I want gains as quickly as possible :) so I guess it’s the ligs then.
even though according to everything I read here this would be less eficient in the long run.. oh well.. I suppose positive mental attitude factors into it somewhere, and a first quicker breakthrough may get me happier more quickly, god knows I don’t need any more depression.

~blue


If God is all powerful, then the devil must be nothing more than a darkness in the mind of God, however if the devil is something real and seperate, then perfection is impossible and God cannot exist except in the aspirations of fallen angels.

Re: I need advice! .... And Im also trying to give advice.

So it begins…

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no kind of devices.


Why? Hanging is the best known way to gain lenght. Well, you might change your mind as time goes by anyway… that’s what I did. ;)

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I read that having less girth makes it easier to gain length,
so it would seem to me the best thing to do would be to firstly try to lengthen the tunica. Now I know that it’s a lot harder to lengthen the tunica than the ligaments, but girth will not limit ligament stretching.


This is true. Good work. Exept that you don’t have to increase your girth while stretching your ligs, as temptating as it may be.

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Now I believe the best “hands on” way to gain length is by jelqing, however I believe from what i’ve read that this will always give an increase in girth as well( correct me if I’m wrong) meaning once im done with the ligaments the increase in girth will make it that much harder to lengthen the tunica.


This is not true. Some individuals have gained greatly from jelqing, but generally stretching is the most efficient way to gain lenght manually, jelqs are primaryly used for girth and general penile health.

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And I seem to remember reading that I can concentrate on the tunca by having my shaft at an above 90 angle, and work the ligs by having it at below 90. So this seems possible.


Basicly true, but go by the feel. Feel the stretch in the right spot. For ligs it’s above your base and for tunica behind your balls.

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I will of course do a brief warm up involving a wrap and a bit of stretching at every angle possible.


Why? I understand the warmp-up, but why involving a wrap and why to stretch in every angle?

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Oh and how does stretching the head out at the end of each jelq affect things?


Most likely you’ll just great a pressure in your glands, which can potentially give you some glands gains. Note that it can also cause you an injury since your glands aren’t conditioned for high pressures. Advance with care.

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and is the A stretch too advanced for a beginner?


I don’t think so, no. After all, A-stretch is more of a grip than a stretch, in my opinion.

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And is jelqing the best approach(not using any equiptment etc remember)
for length gains?


As I’ve said earlier, usually no. I’d go with stretching.

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Is sunflower oil ok for lubrication?


As okay as anything else, but I’d recommend some silicon based lubricants; less messy, keeps you lubricated longer, less likely to cause any complications.

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2.Ive noticed that most of you do a 5 day on 2 day off plan. Which seems cool, but from a lot of wasted time in the gym i’ve learnt that 6 days a week left me at avery lame plateau pretty quickly. But since cutting it to every other day and sometimes a 2 day break after 5 repetitions of this on/off period, I instantly broke my plateau and begin to grow like a weed!


This is where your logic breaks down. When training, you are trying to grow muscles, but when trying to gain lenght by stretching ligs, you are trying to break something with control. You don’t want to recover! Do it as often as your dick can handle. I do it everyday, but as you said, you should probably start with something easier. It’s better to do 3 days a week in a row than 1 on 1 off, because the recovery issue.
The weight training analogy rarely works in this stuff, you know.

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The thing I have learnt is when intensity increases to actually increase the rest periods even MORE!


Yet again, I tell you, you don’t want your ligs to recover. It’s hard enough as it is.

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So what do you think? Any guestions? Comments? Did I manage to make you change your mind in any of the issues? If not, that’s okay too. We are all just trying to grow our own dicks. :)


"Be aware that there are several schools of thought here as well. Some seem to go with the hard and heavy approach. The sessions are brutal. You can hear them talking to their dick: You better grow mofo or I will punish you even harder tomorrow! Others seem to favor a more tender approach. Always listening to what their member is saying while massaging it gently and singing to it with a soft voice. If it is moody and not happy with new behavior, they always listen and are very understanding."

Oh wow, I always assumed that jelqing was primarily for length gains, hmm I wonder how I mixed that up.

Very well. I shall concentrate on manual stetching of the ligs (with a bit of jelqing for health), I think mixing the vast stretching techniques in different ways foe each session may prove to be more succesful than a strict routine, eh?

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So what do you think? Any guestions? Comments? Did I manage to make you change your mind in any of the issues? If not, that’s okay too. We are all just trying to grow our own dicks.
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Well yes, as it so happens you manged to change my mind about the whole intensity issue :) .I guess Ill have to work harder for the gains, but then it’s not really working is it?
I have too much freetime now anway, and hey when I start, you’ve got to know, I won’t be able to leave it alone ;)

However If I see no gains in the first 3 months I will once again attempt to bring my weight training knowledge into play (I’ll get it to work somehow darn it :) ), by implementing sets of really weird, random routines at various times throughout the week, yes almost random enough so that I’ll have to roll a die, oh dear, oh dear…

I seem determined to come up with something original don’t I :)
Well I know that shocking muscle groups works, howabout the penile tissue?

So what stretches do you recommend?
Oh and which ones do you think I should steer clear of, considering my beginners status.

thanks for the advice man.
I plan on starting within a few days.
Oh I have my LOT to work out first! and my erect girth.


If God is all powerful, then the devil must be nothing more than a darkness in the mind of God, however if the devil is something real and seperate, then perfection is impossible and God cannot exist except in the aspirations of fallen angels.

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