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I am having the PE surgery done in 2 weeks

Crash,

Have you put up post op pics yet? I may have missed them.

What I don’t understand is why you continue to do natural PE after the surgery. What do you feel the surgery did for you and what do you feel it didn’t do which causes you to continue with NPE?

I guess a lot of people looking at this thread and considering surgery would expect that to be an endpoint apart from the stuff during healing.

Originally Posted by memento
Crash,

Have you put up post op pics yet? I may have missed them.

What I don’t understand is why you continue to do natural PE after the surgery. What do you feel the surgery did for you and what do you feel it didn’t do which causes you to continue with NPE?

I guess a lot of people looking at this thread and considering surgery would expect that to be an endpoint apart from the stuff during healing.

I have 2 post-op pics up. I continue to PE, and WANT IT TO BE KNOWN THAT NATURAL PE DOES NOT HAVE TO STOP IN ANY WAY AFTER SURGERY. Why, well the same reason why dino9x7, or other already endowed members pe, because they can make it bigger. I’ve been around here long enough, and have learned you can make it bigger, improve blood flow etc. This shit (natural PE) is for real and works! So, the question is, why wouldn’t I? I took it easy at first, learned my limitations, and there were none. I continue to make gains, I had a 4 hour erection the other day. I wake up with boners from hell.

After Enlargement Surgery pic

Pumped.. 30 min.


"Crazy dancin! Making my penis sore!"

- Dave Chapelle

He has, but none of them were erect if memory serves.

He has to do natural PE for the surgery to be a complete success.

I think his unit looks great.

8-Ball, I encourage you to measure more precisely before the surgery. Otherwise there will be no way to tell how much you gain from it.

True, there are many ways to measure. Settle on one. Here is what I do and recommend.

Originally Posted by memento
PirateSteve comes to mind, who had the ligament operation and lost length in the process. Not an uncommon minority outcome according to the figures I’ve seen, maybe someone will dig up the stats.

Do you know what PirateSteve did or didn’t do post-op? I’ve heard that this is what can happen if you don’t stretch or hang or use an ADS or something like that to keep the ligs extended after the surgery.

The surgeon’s web sites I’ve looked at all (or nearly all) say that you can only really expect flaccid gains, at best, unless you do the post-op exercises. I find this very interesting. This is why I suggest that the length procedure might be understood as some sort of aid to what we do here (e.g., hang, stretch, etc.).

With the post-op exercises, one inch erect gain would be considered a big success, according to these surgeons, and two inches is what they put forward as a kind of upper limit. I know, this is not much relative to what some have gained here. But remember, there are “hard gainers.” When it comes to length, I fall into this category. If you are not a hard gainer, you definitely shouldn’t be thinking about surgery. But if you are, and if you’ve genuinely given hanging, etc., a try, then this might help. I’m hoping that in time we can learn more about this possibility here. (I still don’t like the idea of the scar, however.)

And then there is Hobby’s question: If you’ve already maxed out your lig gains from hanging or stretching, will the surgery be redundant and ineffective? Or, will it increase the potential for gains there in the ligs?

Originally Posted by crashhex
I have 2 post-op pics up. I continue to PE, and WANT IT TO BE KNOWN THAT NATURAL PE DOES NOT HAVE TO STOP IN ANY WAY AFTER SURGERY. Why, well the same reason why dino9x7, or other already endowed members pe, because they can make it bigger. I’ve been around here long enough, and have learned you can make it bigger, improve blood flow etc. This shit (natural PE) is for real and works! So, the question is, why wouldn’t I? I took it easy at first, learned my limitations, and there were none. I continue to make gains, I had a 4 hour erection the other day. I wake up with boners from hell.

After Enlargement Surgery pic

Pumped.. 30 min.

Crash,

Have you had the length surgery yet? Do you know exactly what kind of post-op exercises the surgeons use? If hanging, with what hanger? How much weight? How often and for how long? Etc.? Thanks.

Originally Posted by motivated
With the post-op exercises, one inch erect gain would be considered a big success, according to these surgeons, and two inches is what they put forward as a kind of upper limit. I know, this is not much relative to what some have gained here.

I think that sounds remarkably similar to what many have gained from PE, which is why I wonder if a guy who has PE’d for as long as 8-Ball has - and already gained - can benefit from having his ligs snipped.

Well, what can I say, good luck 8 with the surgery.


Bp Fl: 4,5 Fg : 4 Bpel: 7,1 Eg : 5,9 27 july Bp Fl: 5,3 Fg : 4.2 Bpel : 7,8 Eg : 5,9

Originally Posted by motivated
Do you know what PirateSteve did or didn’t do post-op? I’ve heard that this is what can happen if you don’t stretch or hang or use an ADS or something like that to keep the ligs extended after the surgery.

The surgeon’s web sites I’ve looked at all (or nearly all) say that you can only really expect flaccid gains, at best, unless you do the post-op exercises. I find this very interesting. This is why I suggest that the length procedure might be understood as some sort of aid to what we do here (e.g., hang, stretch, etc.).

With the post-op exercises, one inch erect gain would be considered a big success, according to these surgeons, and two inches is what they put forward as a kind of upper limit. I know, this is not much relative to what some have gained here. But remember, there are “hard gainers.” When it comes to length, I fall into this category. If you are not a hard gainer, you definitely shouldn’t be thinking about surgery. But if you are, and if you’ve genuinely given hanging, etc., a try, then this might help. I’m hoping that in time we can learn more about this possibility here. (I still don’t like the idea of the scar, however.)

And then there is Hobby’s question: If you’ve already maxed out your lig gains from hanging or stretching, will the surgery be redundant and ineffective? Or, will it increase the potential for gains there in the ligs?

As some of you guys know, I am good friends with PirateSteve and I can tell you that he did nothing after surgery because his doctor told him “just a couple of tugs on the penis when you are urinating”. Now since he has gone to the doctors again, they seem to agree that his ligs reattached. He has regained his lost inch plus some but it was disappointing. Now it seems a lot of docs laser cut the ligs and corterize them to inhibit reattachment whereas Steve had his “just cut”. He might also have the surgery done again by somebody more reputable.


You all are still missing the point... The story was great and all but should have ass (and) some anal in it.- RWG

8-Ball, good luck with your surgery. It was cool of you to post it and discuss it here. I have a.d.d., did you say you told your Girlfriend? I imagine you will have to tell her something, as you would have to probably refrain from sex for a while. Good luck and heal up fast.

Chrashex, once again, thanks for posting your pics, that unit is thick and healthy looking, looks like a success story to me.


cead mile failte :lep:

Originally Posted by SixerMan
8-Ball, good luck with your surgery. It was cool of you to post it and discuss it here. I have a.d.d., did you say you told your Girlfriend? I imagine you will have to tell her something, as you would have to probably refrain from sex for a while. Good luck and heal up fast.

Chrashex, once again, thanks for posting your pics, that unit is thick and healthy looking, looks like a success story to me.


Yes I did tell her about 2 weeks ago. Her first reaction was that I don’t need it and that she’s very happy with the sex which I do believe. She then asked some questions about what exactly they do and I began telling her in great detail. In the middle of it she interjected and said something to the effect of “wow, you have really done a lot of research on this” and it kind of changed her whole opinion. She still thinks I am being unnecessarily vain with it, but she knows that I am going to do what I’m going to do. Her biggest complaint is that she will have to go without sex for a few months while I am healing, but she goes far away to college a month after the surgery. Also she implied that if I gained a significant amount of length that I might slam into her cervix during sex when I am furiously thrusting. Girth is another story. She is definitely looser than the average girl. She’s 19, by the way.

Originally Posted by crashhex
Wow, I had no idea you are 21. The things I could have accomplished, to have what I have now then. You are a lucky man. Gary will do a good job for you, he is a true artist. Don’t take discouragement the wrong way here, they just hope you are making the right choice. There’s a lot “they” couldn’t possibly understand. I’ve been post-op for about 7 months now, and things keep getting better as time goes on. I continue to “natural PE” as I did before surgery. I jelq, hang, clamp, stretch and pump. You mentioned the confidence with your penis issue. This will not really change that much after your surgery. I’m in the huge category now, and I still have confidence issues; minor, but still there.

I’m here for you through the entire process. Just ask, and I’ll help you anyway that I can.

Good luck,

Chad


Thanks. It cheers me up to know that the patients who went to Dr. Reinschild have nothing but good things to say. If I gain the kind of girth that you did form the surgery, my insecurities will be gone, trust me. I know that I’m already good in bed, this will just be the icing on the cake and I won’t have to fixate on my size during sex like I do now.

Originally Posted by hobby
8-Ball, I encourage you to measure more precisely before the surgery. Otherwise there will be no way to tell how much you gain from it.

True, there are many ways to measure. Settle on one. Here is what I do and recommend.


Oh, there will be a host of measured pics with a ruler and a tape measure from many angles in both the flaccid and erect. I just won’t be able to come up with a consensus as they will all differ slightly. I will probably just take shitload of pics and let the members here come to a consensus on exactly how big I am prior to and after the surgery.

You must be very unhappy with your size to consider such an invasive procedure. I would never let some doc cut into me, even if I had a 3 inch erection. I hope you have thought long and hard about this decision. Good luck.


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crash & 8-Ball,

If I remember correctly from crash’s thread they do the graft insertion by cutting the skin around just under the head, pulling the skin down to your base, wrapping the graft around the shaft, then pulling the skin up and reattaching under the glands. Most of the sensation you get from sex comes from just under the glands (where he’d cut), so wouldn’t this affect that sensation? Crash?

Also, Crash, unless I missed them I think the last picture you posted was in April. Do you have any newer ones showing erection? And also for 8-Ball’s benefit, could you take a shot of it with the foreskin pulled down to show the scarring under the glands. This would be a concern of mine. Scarring around the base can be concealed with pubic hair, but just under the glands for an uncircumcised guy could really produce an unsightly scar for women to see.

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