How much inner penis do I have

:D Exactly!

Marinera,

>If your penis is longer 1”, than it is longer towards your navel too, even if it is longer because it is your inner penis coming out - what you are saying doesn’t make any sense.<

This is actually what I’m trying to make sense of. A ruler doesn’t lie, nor does my wife when it comes to my gains and neither does holding my unit in my hand. I KNOW I have gained an inch. However, with an inch of gain, my unit should be pretty dang close to my navel. And perhaps it has come a LITTLE closer, but to me it seems it did not. The explanation I have heard is that my 1 inch gain was more than likely inner penis coming out and in order to see true length gain (such as reaching my navel) I need tunica gains. That doesn’t make sense to me, but logic tells me that my 1 inch gain may very well have been inner penis coming out - meaning that it was always there but is now “usable” penis.

>You believe to that because Bib said that, and if you can believe that a guy gained about 5” in length in less than 2 years without any proofs, than you can believe anything he says.<

I listen to what Bib says because the guy seems to know a whole lot about the anatomy of the pubic area. He has spent years researching this and developed a hanger that has helped hundreds of guys realize their dreams of getting a bigger penis - myself included. Whether his claims of 4 inches in 2-4 years (which is actually more accurate than what you said) are proven or not, one thing remains: a lot of what he says is very true and helpful and he does it free of charge, whether you ever buy one of his hangers or not. And don’t take this the wrong way because I’m not trying to get into a pissing match with you again, but are your gains and proof posted on here that anyone should listen to you above anyone else?

Mr. Schlong, make a draw of what you are saying and you’ll see it doesn’t makes sense at all.

Marinera,

>Mr. Schlong, make a draw of what you are saying and you’ll see it doesn’t makes sense at all.<

I know!!! That’s what I’m saying bro! But the only thing I know is this: I gained an inch, however it is still seemingly no closer to my navel than it was at almost 6 inches. There was a critic on here that posted and said that true gains are not possible and at most all PE does for people is lower their erection angle so they THINK they have gained when in reality they have not. That ALMOST has some merit to it.

Marinera,

Here is the point the skeptic was making: (Thoughts on PE from johndough)

"Why does everyone talk about tunica stretching as if it’s a fact when it makes no sense biologically and is refuted by the medical community and experiments? If the tissue of the corpora cavernosa is stretched beyond it’s normal capacity it would cease to function, see East Indian subcultures and African tribes that practice hanging; they lose the ability to get an erection. Ask a urologist, andrologist, or phd in human anatomy they will all say the same thing. Ligaments can stretch and do so in other parts of the body. Any functional length gains are most likely due to stretching of the suspensory ligament with most erect length being illusory as the erection angle deceases. Try pushing your erection below parrallel with the floor, you will notice your length will "increase" proportionally to the angle in which you push your penis down. The best way to stretch and put pressure on the tunica is pumping, no study found any length increase or girth increase with up to 6 months of regular pumping, this includes a study whose primary goal was to test for size increase. If the tunica could not permanently expand under those conditions why would it under stretching?"

This has SOME merit to it.

There is no merit in it. Ligs are connective tissue, exactly the same kind of tissue of tunica albuginea. If ligs can be stretched, TA can be stretched, so your penis can be stretched.

Plus, cutting the suspensory ligs adds about 1/4” to your penis (read the medical reviews), where we report much more gain - you said 1” gain, so what JD was saying is that either you are a liar or you are delusional.

Plus, cutting the suspensory ligs and hanging weights should cause the penis falling on the ground if the ‘inner penis coming out’ argument was correct - and we know this doesn’t happens, agree?

Plus, not many days ago a clinical study was posted that showed gains through regular pumping.

Plus, that has little or nothing to do with we were saying. Have you tried doing a draw? No, right?

>>There is no merit in it. Ligs are connective tissue, exactly the same kind of tissue of tunica albuginea. If ligs can be stretched, TA can be stretched, so your penis can be stretched.<<

Correct me if I’m mistaken - ligs are a different material than tunica. Ligs are more stretchy, elastic in nature whereas tunica is a tougher, more fibrous tissue.

>>Plus, cutting the suspensory ligs adds about 1/4” to your penis (read the medical reviews), where we report much more gain - you said 1” gain, so what JD was saying is that either you are a liar or you are delusional.<<

Can’t and won’t argue with you there. I have gained over an inch from hanging so I’m neither lying nor delusional!

>>Plus, cutting the suspensory ligs and hanging weights should cause the penis falling on the ground if the ‘inner penis coming out’ argument was correct - and we know this doesn’t happens, agree?<<

Agree and disagree. The penis has a bulb at its very base, deep inside the body, which I believe is also held by lig bundles. So cutting the suspensory lig would not cause it to fall out.

>>Plus, that has little or nothing to do with we were saying. Have you tried doing a draw? No, right?<<

Haven’t done the drawing because you are right - it makes no sense. But that is what I’m trying to do: make sense of this. One thing I will do - I will measure from the base of my unit to my navel to see the distance.

If ligs are more elastic, doesn’t that means that plastic deformation would be harder to achieve on ligs than on TA? Are we interested in stretching further for a bit or in achieving stable deformation - or even growth? Ligs can grow, TA can grow. We know they can grow, because we know they can be repaired : if a lig gets torn, it will heal; if TA is torn, it will heal. JD’ argument is inconsistent. He’s not a skeptic at all, he is convinced PE is not possible and was trying to make proselits.

By the way, TA has 5% of elastin, ligs about 3% if I’m not mistaken (where’s Figo?); this has not that much relevance here anyway, just saying.

>>If ligs are more elastic, doesn’t that means that plastic deformation would be harder to achieve on ligs than on TA?<<

Excellent point. Thanks!

Yeah, less than 3% elastin in ligs according to this

5% elastin in TA according to this
http://en.wikip edia.org/wiki/T … nea_%28penis%29

OK, so that is why TA is harder to deform than ligs. I had the idea that TA was more of a thicker, fibrous material. Thanks bro.

This is a couple of very rough draws (I’m not an artist and I’m not going to install cad or such on my pc right now, give me a break :) ) but hope it can make clear what I mean.

When ligs are stretched, penis hangs a bit lower, so the exit point allows a small shift - let’s say about 1/4” on average; so you can be a 1/4” longer on the ruler but your penis isn’t a 1/4” closer to your navel; but, if there is bigger gain than that (so real gain), your penis will start becoming closer to your navel, as you see in the second pic. If any fellow more versed in drawing would help here, it could be good.

HA HA - you’re a moderator and your pics require approval! LOL.

I would add that your navel could also shift higher: I mean, if you become fatter, distance (exit point of penis - navel) will be longer, no?

True. My weight is pretty consistent and if anything, I have actually lost some weight.