How hard to stretch your penis

You are not having any discussion, Upto7, you are arguing just for the sake of it. I’ve go to temper, I agree. You should do less the smart ass. Like doing the grammar teacher, you know?

Whatever man, I think it will be easier for both of us if we stop talking to each other.

Or if you stop giving bad advices to newbies. Open a thread in the main member forum if you want to debate the goodness of extreme forces applied to the human penis.

And just for the record, it was you quoting my posts.

Exactly, I was talking to you, not to the creator of this thread. Thanks for proving my point. But I won’t do it again, your personality is too unpleasant (and I’d use different term if we were on different forum ;) ).

I don’t care what you think, kid.

‘The creator’?! Lol.

So the moral of the story is that methods like ADS and hanging allow for a more controlled stretch which if performed safely are started at a relatively low tension/weight.

Manual stretching on the other hand, makes it difficult to gauge the tensions involved and the result is potential for a high intensity stretch, especially when you factor in the inexperience of a newbie.

To me this begs the question:

Why do we recommend manual stretching for new members?

Experience. This site has 10 years. Lot of water under the bridge, as They say. People who started with extenders/hanging had way more injuries than those doing manual stretch. It’s not true either that manual stretching allows for less controlled tension. Beside that:

a) manual stretching costs nothing. $100 could be nothing for some, could be a lot of money for somebody else. Since there isn’t any guarantee (always we should keep this in mind) that you’ll have gains, better you don’t spend money on anything;

b) no devices can provide all the benefits that a manual routine can carry.

A manual based routine will always be the backbone of PE IMHO.

Yes, “controlled” was the wrong word, I just meant that the force applied during a manual stretch is harder to accurately gauge, and harder to accurately pass onto someone else through an online forum.

I 100% agree that manual exercises are essential and effective.

In my mind I equate accuracy with efficiency and safety. So for me, I feel much safer using a device knowing precisely the force that I am applying. But I also know I am being responsible and not overdoing it yet can not guarantee that others would do the same.

The potential to hurt ones self by over doing it with devices is a FAR greater threat than overdoing it with manual exercises and is why the recommendation is to stay away from devices first. This is the answer to my question.

In a perfect world where everyone started slow and followed the rules, perhaps PE would be different.

($100 is a lot for me!)

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I got fast results using fairly extreme stretching with a home-made stretcher made from parts found at home depot, but I would never recommend such an approach to a new PEer as I have no idea what “intense” means to them.

For all I know they could tear their dick off with the thing I built.

We are going to live with our dicks for a great long time. Way longer than the few months it takes to slowly get through the newbie routine and venture into more intense work-outs after building a base of knowledge and experience.

I’ve been at this for nearly two years now, and I’m only just learning how my dick responds to different types of training.