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How big is too big?

Originally Posted by Titleist

I find it amusing you think there are 12 inch dicks out there.

Took the words right out of my mouth!

For the sake of debate, I’m going to play devil’s advocate and make a case for extreme length.

I’ve continued to browse around the fisting forums, and have now found a second case of increasing vaginal depth, this time from about 7 to 9 (the other one was from 6 to 8). This suggests that some women will adjust to extreme lengths over time.

I also found a couple threads where women measure the depth of their vagina to the vulva and combined the data set.

6.25”
6.5”
6.5”
6.5”
7”
7 “
7.25
7.5”
7.5”
7.5”
8”
8”
8.25”
10.5”

Which is an average depth of about 7.5” NBP for willing respondents among extreme inserters.

It’s possible some of these women could have gone deeper with narrower toys (they are generally inserting 7” - 9”+ circumferences) and one of the stats is from a woman who got 8.25” deep with a 6.75” girth toy while she could only get 7.5” with a 8.5” girth toy. So maybe their average stats could be ~0.75” deeper with more common penis girths in the 5-7” EG range.

Women who are into stretching, fisting, and insertions - tend to do max depth insertions - reaching to the back walls of the pussy (the fornices). It’s possible that after years of this style of play, these women have stretched their depths without even realizing it.

Anatomically, there is every reason to believe a vagina will stretch in depth over time, provided that it is not limited by the rear bones of the pelvis (the spine). Stretching via the anterior fornix is less likely to be limited by the spine.

The theory that vaginal depth is primarily spine limited suggests a depth range of 5-7 inches over a large sample (a sample of 203 mothers diagonal conjugates were measured at 10-16 cm). It’s rather obvious that the spine is not limiting depth in many cases (anyone who is deeper than 7” is very likely not spine-limited)

Women who enjoy this type of play generally do full insertions. That is to say, if they’re 7 inches deep, they insert their very wide toy the full 7 inches. They want to be full. That is a case to be at least long enough to bottom out. For the moment I’ll set aside the downsides to bottoming out.

The most sensitive part of the penis is the upper shaft, so even when we do bottom out, we are still getting all the stimulation we need on the upper shaft.

Cervix limitations and fornices - many women do not like their cervix bumped and those women may be underestimating their depth. Even among fisters and inserters, some of them take time to discover their fornices. For inexperienced women, it’s possible that they believe their vaginal depth is about 1-2” less than it really is. They experience pain or resistance at the cervix, whereas a skilled male lover with a long tool can slide past the cervix. This would in part explain why many female sources around the internet have quoted their “ideal lengths” in the 4.5 - 6.5” range when the fisting women are reporting their vaginal depths around 7.5”.

A penis that is “too long” could be thought of as “long enough” to completely fill her up; to stimulate the fornices and cervix in a way that is pleasurable (sliding into the pockets) rather than painful (bumping into the cervix). Both partners still get their orgasms, and hers may be even better and fuller.

Among women who are not spine-limited in depth, there would be a “stretchy zone” of depth, where the penis is in a fornix, touching the end of the vaginal walls, but there are a couple inches of give, the stretched length. Bottoming out would not be a hard limit, but rather a range of increasing resistance.pleasurable to both. A best of both worlds scenario in which she is completely full, and you can still grind.

So there you have it, a case for going to 8 NBP or so. Or if you can truly tap into the mindset of “bottoming out is a good thing” then why not 9 NBP?

Remember this was a devil’s advocate post - I’m not sure I even convinced myself. There are plenty of reasons to avoid becoming too long to bottom out, and plenty of female sources around the net indicating an average ideal length of 5-7 NBP.


Before 5.5" x 4.1" ///////// Now 7.4" x 4.9"

I feel like you guys are extrapolating a lot of assumptions from a highly self-selected group of women. It’s interesting, and not unconvincing—I want a 6” EG as much as the next guy here, if it wouldn’t cause problems—but I feel like someone should take a moment to point out that this anecdotal data is all from a fetish forum.


Why the Smithsonian? Because you could walk around it for a week and not see the whole thing.

I’ve never worried about the data. I trust my real experiences.

We can go back and forth and it means nothing until the moment of truth. Many here including me will never have to worry about being too big.

Grow your penis and ability to stay erect. More importantly learn how to be a good lover before you get to the bedroom.


Started 7.75x5.75

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Goal:10.0bpX7.25mseg Building a thicker unit, click by click, pump by pump, jelq by jelq!

I’ve pointed out in every post that it is from a fisting fetish forum. It still applies to our question though.

Fisters and extreme inserters all started out with normal tight pussies, discovered this fetish in various ways, and a year or two or three down the road end up inserting 9+ girths.

It’s true that they are self-selected in that they enjoy stretching. But physiologically, there are no assumptions made - any woman with a healthy vagina can stretch to accommodate any penis girth - if she wants to.

For length, I disclosed that I intentionally made a lot of assumptions and took one sided viewpoints.

For girth, I have no doubt in my mind now, it is unlimited… if and only if she is willing to adjust.

So there is too big girth for a one night stand, or if she’s unwilling to change. But for a LTR, she will adjust quickly with a little stretching.

Maybe a lot of women are unwilling to stretch. I don’t see why they wouldn’t love it though, if it’s done slowly and incrementally, and not done beyond one’s penis girth.


Before 5.5" x 4.1" ///////// Now 7.4" x 4.9"

BD this question is an aside to the current topic, but your findings had me asking a question over and over again. Do these women perform any kegels? Or mention anything about doing kegels? I wonder if the stretching gives them more vaginal control and strength to the squeeze they could perform.

May I end the discussion with a definitive answer?

It’s too big when she can’t or won’t accept what ever size you are.

Wow that’s pure genius!


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Originally Posted by PatientlyGrowin
BD this question is an aside to the current topic, but your findings had me asking a question over and over again. Do these women perform any kegels? Or mention anything about doing kegels? I wonder if the stretching gives them more vaginal control and strength to the squeeze they could perform.

Most of them kegel a lot to stay reasonably tight.


Before 5.5" x 4.1" ///////// Now 7.4" x 4.9"

I’ll end this subject for myself on this. I know a lot of people on here are anti-porn, but if you get a chance watch a “Julio Gomez” video on Blacked.com.. Trust me if there was such a thing as too big he’d be it… BUT he manages


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Originally Posted by Titleist
I find it amusing you think there are 12 inch dicks out there.

I used to think this when I was a teenager. It contributed alot to size anxiety. Jokes about ‘footlongs’ girls bragging about how some guy was 12”. I was “half of the good size”. When I was 16 I dreamt of getting an extender and having a goal of 12”. I didn’t even think about girth lol.


Start: Dec 2016 BPEL: 6.125" MEG: 5.5" (5' - 9" 264 lb)

Curr: Oct 2017 BPEL: 6.75" MEG: 5.625" (5' - 9" 245 lb)

Goal: 7.5" x 6" .......I want to win the dick swinging contest.

Originally Posted by kavemonster
I used to think this when I was a teenager. It contributed alot to size anxiety. Jokes about ‘footlongs’ girls bragging about how some guy was 12”. I was “half of the good size”. When I was 16 I dreamt of getting an extender and having a goal of 12”. I didn’t even think about girth lol.

It amazes me that it’s believed so many guys have a cock that’s a foot long. I had other issues about my size but never thought there were foot long dicks.


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Originally Posted by Titleist
It amazes me that it’s believed so many guys have a cock that’s a foot long. I had other issues about my size but never thought there were foot long dicks.

Watching porn didn’t help either. I think it’s a combination of traits create the illusion of extreme size. Very lean, smaller stature, black dudes, sporting 8 inches, enough shaft skin to make the dick and testicles really stand far apart, all create the ilusión of extreme size. Not to mention the actresses they were with are usually smaller, camera angles etc. I just thought wow he really must be 12 inches!!

Watching that stuff contrasts badly with chubby hidden white poker when you are 13.

I think there is unfair burden on black guys of being expected to be super hung. There’s a bell curve for them too. Not everyone can be above average lol!!


Start: Dec 2016 BPEL: 6.125" MEG: 5.5" (5' - 9" 264 lb)

Curr: Oct 2017 BPEL: 6.75" MEG: 5.625" (5' - 9" 245 lb)

Goal: 7.5" x 6" .......I want to win the dick swinging contest.

Originally Posted by kavemonster
Watching porn didn’t help either. I think it’s a combination of traits create the illusion of extreme size. Very lean, smaller stature, black dudes, sporting 8 inches, enough shaft skin to make the dick and testicles really stand far apart, all create the ilusión of extreme size. Not to mention the actresses they were with are usually smaller, camera angles etc. I just thought wow he really must be 12 inches!!

Watching that stuff contrasts badly with chubby hidden white poker when you are 13.

I think there is unfair burden on black guys of being expected to be super hung. There’s a bell curve for them too. Not everyone can be above average lol!!

All males fall within the statistical norm. Coming to that realization really helped me. I’m now comfortable in my own skin.


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Goal:10.0bpX7.25mseg Building a thicker unit, click by click, pump by pump, jelq by jelq!

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